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PopcornMachine
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 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: Laker 20 Game Stats |
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Team stats are updated on PopcornMachine.net automatically after every game (once I upload the data, that is).
You can always check them here: http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/teamstats.cgi?team=LAL&type=pergame
This time I've adjusted the group +/- figures per 48 minutes of play.
Here is a summary of scoring and some of the special status I keep track of.
| Code: | pts hv prod eff
Kobe Bryant 26.4 Lamar Odom 11.8 Kobe Bryant .90 Kobe Bryant 23.6
Lamar Odoom 18.4 Kwame Brown 9.2 Brain Cook .82 Lamar Odom 21.9
Luke Walton 12.7 Luke Walton 7.7 Lamar Odom .76 Luke Walton 15.3
Smush Parker 9.4 Kobe Bryant 7.6 Andrew Bynum .73 Kwame Brown 13.2
Kwame Brown 8.9 Andrew Bynum 6.4 Kwame Brown .69 Andrew Bynum 11.0
Anderw Bynum 7.3 Smush Parker 4.5 Luke Walton .63
Jordan Farmar 4.1
HelpValue hv = rebounds + assists + steals + blocks - turnovers
Productivity prod = (points + hv) / min
Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals + free_throws)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows)
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Indvidual +/- per game:
| Code: | G Min +/-
Kwame Brown 13 26.2 7.5
Lamar Odom 20 39.6 3.5
Kobe Bryant 17 37.7 2.9
Maurice Evans 20 18.1 2.6
Luke Walton 20 32.4 2.2
Jordan Farmar 18 18.2 2.1
Ronny Turiaf 16 10.2 1.2
Shammond Williams 5 7.0 1.2
Smush Parker 20 29.5 1.1
Sasha Vujacic 15 9.9 0.1
Vladimir Radmanovic 19 13.8 -0.1
Andrew Bynum 20 18.8 -0.8
Brian Cook 12 9.5 -1.6
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Individual +/- adjusted per 48 minutes and in/out of game.
| Code: | In Game Out Of Game
Min p 48m Min p 48m Adj48
Kwame Brown 341.17 96 13.51 618.83 -23 -1.78 15.29
Maurice Evans 361.95 53 7.03 598.05 20 1.61 5.42
Lamar Odom 792.12 71 4.30 167.88 2 0.57 3.73
Shammond Williams 35.22 5 6.81 924.78 68 3.53 3.28
Jordan Farmar 327.02 37 5.43 632.98 36 2.73 2.70
Ronny Turiaf 163.39 20 5.88 796.61 53 3.19 2.68
Kobe Bryant 641.32 50 3.74 318.68 23 3.46 0.28
Luke Walton 647.39 44 3.26 312.61 29 4.45 -1.19
Sasha Vujacic 148.07 1 0.32 811.93 72 4.26 -3.93
Smush Parker 589.87 23 1.87 370.13 50 6.48 -4.61
Vladimir Radmanovic 262.52 -2 -0.37 697.48 75 5.16 -5.53
Andrew Bynum 375.53 -15 -1.92 584.47 88 7.23 -9.14
Brian Cook 114.43 -18 -7.55 845.57 91 5.17 -12.72
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Five man lineups, more than 10 minutes:
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Min p p48
213.03 -1 0.00 Andrew Bynum_Kobe Bryant_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Smush Parker
167.34 29 0.17 Kobe Bryant_Kwame Brown_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Smush Parker
27.15 4 0.15 Kwame Brown_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Maurice Evans_Smush Parker
25.54 17 0.67 Andrew Bynum_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Maurice Evans_Smush Parker
24.10 26 1.08 Kobe Bryant_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Ronny Turiaf_Smush Parker
20.02 0 0.00 Brian Cook_Kobe Bryant_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Smush Parker
19.82 4 0.20 Jordan Farmar_Lamar Odom_Maurice Evans_Ronny Turiaf_Vladimir Radmanovic
17.43 1 0.06 Andrew Bynum_Jordan Farmar_Lamar Odom_Maurice Evans_Vladimir Radmanovic
15.90 1 0.06 Jordan Farmar_Kwame Brown_Lamar Odom_Maurice Evans_Vladimir Radmanovic
14.03 6 0.43 Brian Cook_Jordan Farmar_Ronny Turiaf_Shammond Williams_Vladimir Radmanovic
11.86 9 0.76 Lamar Odom_Luke Walton_Maurice Evans_Ronny Turiaf_Smush Parker
11.19 4 0.36 Jordan Farmar_Kobe Bryant_Kwame Brown_Maurice Evans_Vladimir Radmanovic
10.38 -1 -0.10 Jordan Farmar_Kobe Bryant_Kwame Brown_Lamar Odom_Luke Walton
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Three man groups, 400 minutes or more:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Lamar Odom Smush Parker Luke Walton 504.08 64 6.094 455.92 9 0.948 5.147
Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom Luke Walton 462.20 49 5.089 497.80 24 2.314 2.775
Kobe Bryant Smush Parker Luke Walton 444.38 44 4.753 515.62 29 2.700 2.053
Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom Smush Parker 448.96 41 4.383 511.04 32 3.006 1.378
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Three man groups, from 80 to 400 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom Kwame Brown 213.42 48 10.796 746.58 25 1.607 9.188
Lamar Odom Luke Walton Kwame Brown 221.40 45 9.756 738.60 28 1.820 7.936
Kobe Bryant Luke Walton Kwame Brown 191.94 35 8.753 768.06 38 2.375 6.378
Smush Parker Luke Walton Kwame Brown 202.99 29 6.857 757.01 44 2.790 4.068
Kobe Bryant Smush Parker Kwame Brown 187.98 26 6.639 772.02 47 2.922 3.717
Lamar Odom Smush Parker Kwame Brown 216.92 28 6.196 743.08 45 2.907 3.289
Andrew Bynum Lamar Odom Smush Parker 258.70 4 0.742 701.30 69 4.723 -3.980
Andrew Bynum Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom 237.93 -6 -1.210 722.07 79 5.252 -6.462
Andrew Bynum Kobe Bryant Luke Walton 243.18 -8 -1.579 716.82 81 5.424 -7.003
Andrew Bynum Smush Parker Luke Walton 262.43 -9 -1.646 697.57 82 5.642 -7.289
Andrew Bynum Kobe Bryant Smush Parker 232.34 -10 -2.066 727.66 83 5.475 -7.541
Andrew Bynum Lamar Odom Luke Walton 267.16 -10 -1.797 692.84 83 5.750 -7.547
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Three man groups, from 69 to 180 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Lamar Odom Luke Walton Maurice Evans 88.45 48 26.049 871.55 25 1.377 24.672
Kwame Brown Jordan Farmar Maurice Evans 69.73 30 20.651 890.27 43 2.318 18.333
Lamar Odom Kwame Brown Maurice Evans 97.49 31 15.263 862.51 42 2.337 12.926
Lamar Odom Jordan Farmar Maurice Evans 136.45 36 12.664 823.55 37 2.157 10.507
Andrew Bynum Lamar Odom Maurice Evans 78.88 17 10.345 881.12 56 3.051 7.294
Kobe Bryant Jordan Farmar Maurice Evans 84.33 16 9.107 875.67 57 3.124 5.983
Andrew Bynum Jordan Farmar Maurice Evans 72.54 13 8.602 887.46 60 3.245 5.357
Lamar Odom Smush Parker Maurice Evans 96.94 16 7.922 863.06 57 3.170 4.752
Smush Parker Luke Walton Maurice Evans 74.11 11 7.125 885.89 62 3.359 3.765
Lamar Odom Maurice Evans Vladimir Radmanovic 93.39 13 6.682 866.61 60 3.323 3.358
Jordan Farmar Maurice Evans Vladimir Radmanovic 123.30 9 3.504 836.70 64 3.672 -0.168
Lamar Odom Jordan Farmar Vladimir Radmanovic 91.96 3 1.566 868.04 70 3.871 -2.305
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Prometheus8
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Popcorn.
Interesting that Kwame leads the team in both +- and adjusted +-. Seems like he's found a home. |
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golakersgo121
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much for an update. Can't say enough about importance of your stats
Only here, only from PopcornMachine! |
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PopcornMachine
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I find this stuff facinating, so I decided to take a look at pairs of Lakers. While I don't contend that this isn't the final word on who is contributing the most, the data does point to Kwame Brown having a huge impact since his late start.
It's a little urprising that Lamar and Luke are the best of the heavily used pairs. But the other groups show that Kwame will soon break into this territory.
And before you throw the end of the bench players under the bus, note that Shammond and Brian, in their 15.42 minutes on the court together, produced a 24.8 +/- per 48 minutes!
Pairs, 400 minutes or more:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Lamar Odom Luke Walton 576.81 66 5.492 383.19 7 0.877 4.615
Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom 532.95 54 4.863 427.05 19 2.136 2.728
Lamar Odom Smush Parker 550.58 43 3.749 409.42 30 3.517 0.232
Kobe Bryant Luke Walton 512.12 39 3.655 447.88 34 3.644 0.012
Smush Parker Luke Walton 532.26 40 3.607 427.74 33 3.703 -0.096
Kobe Bryant Smush Parker 473.28 33 3.347 486.72 40 3.945 -0.598
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Pairs, from 200 to 400 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Lamar Odom Kwame Brown 296.35 75 12.148 663.65 -2 -0.145 12.292
Kobe Bryant Kwame Brown 246.25 64 12.475 713.75 9 0.605 11.870
Lamar Odom Maurice Evans 249.21 64 12.327 710.79 9 0.608 11.719
Luke Walton Kwame Brown 239.39 49 9.825 720.61 24 1.599 8.226
Jordan Farmar Maurice Evans 225.67 37 7.870 734.33 36 2.353 5.517
Smush Parker Kwame Brown 226.25 29 6.152 733.75 44 2.878 3.274
Lamar Odom Jordan Farmar 210.15 21 4.797 749.85 52 3.329 1.468
Andrew Bynum Smush Parker 273.90 -5 -0.876 686.10 78 5.457 -6.333
Andrew Bynum Kobe Bryant 277.42 -6 -1.038 682.58 79 5.555 -6.594
Andrew Bynum Luke Walton 295.20 -7 -1.138 664.80 80 5.776 -6.914
Andrew Bynum Lamar Odom 322.27 -20 -2.979 637.73 93 7.000 -9.979
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Pairs, from 100 to 200 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Kwame Brown Maurice Evans 135.86 51 18.019 824.14 22 1.281 16.737
Luke Walton Maurice Evans 124.91 32 12.297 835.09 41 2.357 9.940
Andrew Bynum Maurice Evans 113.04 22 9.342 846.96 51 2.890 6.451
Kobe Bryant Maurice Evans 117.34 20 8.181 842.66 53 3.019 5.162
Jordan Farmar Vladimir Radmanovic 176.76 16 4.345 783.24 57 3.493 0.852
Kobe Bryant Jordan Farmar 134.14 12 4.294 825.86 61 3.545 0.749
Maurice Evans Vladimir Radmanovic 172.42 1 0.278 787.58 72 4.388 -4.110
Smush Parker Maurice Evans 114.75 -1 -0.418 845.25 74 4.202 -4.621
Lamar Odom Vladimir Radmanovic 143.02 -5 -1.678 816.98 78 4.583 -6.261
Lamar Odom Sasha Vujacic 108.32 -23 -10.192 851.68 96 5.410 -15.603
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Pairs, from 50 to 100 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Kwame Brown Jordan Farmar 89.02 46 24.803 870.98 27 1.488 23.315
Kwame Brown Vladimir Radmanovic 76.34 29 18.234 883.66 44 2.390 15.844
Luke Walton Ronny Turiaf 77.01 26 16.206 882.99 47 2.555 13.651
Smush Parker Ronny Turiaf 61.45 20 15.622 898.55 53 2.831 12.791
Sasha Vujacic Vladimir Radmanovic 76.64 24 15.031 883.36 49 2.663 12.369
Ronny Turiaf Maurice Evans 79.09 20 12.138 880.91 53 2.888 9.250
Jordan Farmar Sasha Vujacic 88.56 15 8.130 871.44 58 3.195 4.935
Vladimir Radmanovic Brian Cook 53.42 9 8.087 906.58 64 3.389 4.698
Kobe Bryant Ronny Turiaf 72.36 11 7.297 887.64 62 3.353 3.944
Lamar Odom Ronny Turiaf 97.67 14 6.880 862.33 59 3.284 3.596
Luke Walton Jordan Farmar 96.52 6 2.984 863.48 67 3.724 -0.741
Ronny Turiaf Jordan Farmar 91.03 5 2.636 868.97 68 3.756 -1.120
Jordan Farmar Brian Cook 75.04 3 1.919 884.96 70 3.797 -1.878
Lamar Odom Brian Cook 62.99 -1 -0.762 897.01 74 3.960 -4.722
Andrew Bynum Jordan Farmar 93.17 -6 -3.091 866.83 79 4.375 -7.466
Maurice Evans Sasha Vujacic 67.74 -7 -4.960 892.26 80 4.304 -9.264
Ronny Turiaf Vladimir Radmanovic 81.35 -14 -8.261 878.65 87 4.753 -13.013
Kobe Bryant Vladimir Radmanovic 91.79 -21 -10.982 868.21 94 5.197 -16.178
Kobe Bryant Brian Cook 63.99 -22 -16.503 896.01 95 5.089 -21.592
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Pairs, from 25 to 50 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Kwame Brown Sasha Vujacic 48.05 33 32.966 911.95 40 2.105 30.860
Kobe Bryant Sasha Vujacic 38.44 20 24.974 921.56 53 2.761 22.213
Sasha Vujacic Brian Cook 27.39 12 21.030 932.61 61 3.140 17.890
Shammond Williams Vladimir Radmanovic 31.40 8 12.229 928.60 65 3.360 8.869
Shammond Williams Ronny Turiaf 30.42 1 1.578 929.58 72 3.718 -2.140
Andrew Bynum Vladimir Radmanovic 48.44 -8 -7.927 911.56 81 4.265 -12.193
Luke Walton Sasha Vujacic 43.29 -13 -14.414 916.71 86 4.503 -18.917
Smush Parker Vladimir Radmanovic 49.95 -20 -19.219 910.05 93 4.905 -24.124
Ronny Turiaf Sasha Vujacic 26.09 -12 -22.077 933.91 85 4.369 -26.446
Smush Parker Brian Cook 38.17 -20 -25.151 921.83 93 4.843 -29.993
Luke Walton Vladimir Radmanovic 48.55 -27 -26.694 911.45 100 5.266 -31.960
Andrew Bynum Sasha Vujacic 39.20 -24 -29.388 920.80 97 5.056 -34.444
Smush Parker Sasha Vujacic 26.93 -19 -33.866 933.07 92 4.733 -38.598
Luke Walton Brian Cook 39.21 -29 -35.501 920.79 102 5.317 -40.818
Maurice Evans Brian Cook 41.85 -34 -38.996 918.15 107 5.594 -44.590
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Pairs, from 10 to 25 minutes:
| Code: | In min +/- permin Out min +/- permin adj
Shammond Williams Brian Cook 15.42 9 28.016 944.58 64 3.252 24.763
Ronny Turiaf Brian Cook 17.74 6 16.234 942.26 67 3.413 12.821
Shammond Williams Jordan Farmar 19.85 4 9.673 940.15 69 3.523 6.150
Andrew Bynum Ronny Turiaf 18.53 1 2.590 941.47 72 3.671 -1.080
Lamar Odom Shammond Williams 18.16 -4 -10.573 941.84 77 3.924 -14.497
Andrew Bynum Brian Cook 20.90 -7 -16.077 939.10 80 4.089 -20.166
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postandpivot
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ay, kettlecorn,
maybe its me. but I got lost here
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals + free_throws)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
are you saying attempted FT's are a negative thing if missed?
and on that same note. is there away for you to throw in a "draws fouls"=attempted FT's into the Good side of Efficiency? or is that what Freethrows thing really means?attempted |
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Texas_Pete
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Kwame  |
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PopcornMachine
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| postandpivot wrote: | Ay, kettlecorn,
maybe its me. but I got lost here
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals + free_throws)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
are you saying attempted FT's are a negative thing if missed?
and on that same note. is there away for you to throw in a "draws fouls"=attempted FT's into the Good side of Efficiency? or is that what Freethrows thing really means?attempted |
I'm using the NBA Efficiency Ragintg: http://www.nba.com/statistics/efficiency.html
They show the formula as:
| Code: | NBA.com evaluates all players based on the efficiency formula:
((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) -
((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers)). |
I guess I should reword mine as
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals_made + free_throws_made)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
So in essence it is penalizing for missed shots and fts, to take shooting accuracy into account.
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golakersgo121
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| PopcornMachine wrote: | | postandpivot wrote: | Ay, kettlecorn,
maybe its me. but I got lost here
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals + free_throws)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
are you saying attempted FT's are a negative thing if missed?
and on that same note. is there away for you to throw in a "draws fouls"=attempted FT's into the Good side of Efficiency? or is that what Freethrows thing really means?attempted |
I'm using the NBA Efficiency Ragintg: http://www.nba.com/statistics/efficiency.html
They show the formula as:
| Code: | NBA.com evaluates all players based on the efficiency formula:
((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) -
((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers)). |
I guess I should reword mine as
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals_made + free_throws_made)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
So in essence it is penalizing for missed shots and fts, to take shooting accuracy into account.
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Makes sense. Kwame rocks |
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golakersgo121
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| PopcornMachine wrote: | | postandpivot wrote: | Ay, kettlecorn,
maybe its me. but I got lost here
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals + free_throws)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
are you saying attempted FT's are a negative thing if missed?
and on that same note. is there away for you to throw in a "draws fouls"=attempted FT's into the Good side of Efficiency? or is that what Freethrows thing really means?attempted |
I'm using the NBA Efficiency Ragintg: http://www.nba.com/statistics/efficiency.html
They show the formula as:
| Code: | NBA.com evaluates all players based on the efficiency formula:
((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) -
((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers)). |
I guess I should reword mine as
| Quote: | Efficiency eff = (points + assists + rebounds + steals + blocks + field_goals_made + free_throws_made)
- (turnovers + attempted_fieldgoals + attempted_freethrows) |
So in essence it is penalizing for missed shots and fts, to take shooting accuracy into account.
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Makes sense. Kwame rocks |
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