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Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:48 am Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | Can we see this list for BPM so his DBPM is accounted for? |
One & Done PGs by BPM (minimum 41 games)
1) Kyrie Irving = + 3.3
2) Lonzo Ball = +1.7
3) Brandon Jennings +0.9
4) John Wall = -0.2
5) Tony Parker = -0.4
6) Derrick Rose = -0.6
7) Stephon Marbury = -1.0
8) Jrue Holiday = -1.8
9) D'Angelo Russell = -1.8
10) Brandon Knight = -1.9
11) Dennis Smith, Jr. = -2.3
12) Jamal Murray = -2.6
13) Mike Conley = -3.0
14) Dante Exum = -3.8
15) Frank Ntilikina = -3.9
16) Emmanuel Mudiay = -4.3
17) De'Aaron Fox = -4.4
18) Dajuan Wagner = -5.2
19) Denis Schroder = -8.3 |
When more than scoring is factored turns out he's not terrible |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Zo reminds me of "DJ" Dennis Johnson and Jason Kidd... |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:01 am Post subject: |
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JerryWest_44 wrote: | Zo reminds me of "DJ" Dennis Johnson and Jason Kidd... | maybe |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:56 am Post subject: |
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If he makes FT's and 3's at a reasonable rate he turns into game changing player.
75% FT
35% 3FG
That would take our team to the next level |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: |
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What LaVar says is irrelevant to Lonzo's focus. It doesn't bother him. Maybe people need to stop always bringing it up because it obviously effects them more than it effects Lonzo, and they try to project how they feel onto Lonzo and act like it's for the betterment of him, when in reality he doesn't care. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | MJST wrote: | Lonzo's form isn't the issue, when he consistently fires it from the right spot without missing it. When he raises it just slightly(his high school form) it's essentially like Durant's form.
We even saw him going back to it slightly during his 'hot streak' and Magic referred to this as well in the end of the season pressers when it came to Lonzo's jumper.
Besides there's more to Lonzo's game than his jumper, and he does that more at an extremely high level for a rookie and in general. All are good signs. Ya'll focus on his jumper way too much when the adjustment to 'fix it' doesn't even have to be that drastic. |
How players shoot as HS sophomores is never the same form the have when they grow
Lonzo's form was consistently his unique form this year he didn't raise it to any degree close to KD |
Shame. I wish Zo took on his sophomore HS form again. |
Same.
Heck I even used Lonzo's form in 2K18 and then in the jump shot creater mixed it with KD's form and raised it just slightly so that it was like his high school form.
I now rarely miss from three _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: |
If he makes FT's and 3's at a reasonable rate he turns into game changing player.
75% FT
35% 3FG
That would take our team to the next level |
I don’t know about the last comment, but it would be a big step in the right direction. I would add a third item: Get FTAs per game up to 3.5. Ball had one of the lowest FT rates in the league among players who played a lot of minutes. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | defense wrote: |
If he makes FT's and 3's at a reasonable rate he turns into game changing player.
75% FT
35% 3FG
That would take our team to the next level |
I don’t know about the last comment, but it would be a big step in the right direction. I would add a third item: Get FTAs per game up to 3.5. Ball had one of the lowest FT rates in the league among players who played a lot of minutes. |
_________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | defense wrote: |
If he makes FT's and 3's at a reasonable rate he turns into game changing player.
75% FT
35% 3FG
That would take our team to the next level |
I don’t know about the last comment, but it would be a big step in the right direction. I would add a third item: Get FTAs per game up to 3.5. Ball had one of the lowest FT rates in the league among players who played a lot of minutes. |
He needs to do so, but I don't expect his FTr to ever be very high because 1) he's just not wired to draw contact at the rim, and 2) his 3PAr is going to be insane. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I would be happy if he’s putting up 15/9/9 next year |
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | I would be happy if he’s putting up 15/9/9 next year |
Lol... considering Ball would be the first player in NBA history to every do that at 21 years old or younger, I'm sure you (and every Laker fan) would be quite happy. I see your Russian benefactors up your salary once the offseason hits. Good for you making that money. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | I don’t know about the last comment, but it would be a big step in the right direction. I would add a third item: Get FTAs per game up to 3.5. Ball had one of the lowest FT rates in the league among players who played a lot of minutes. |
He needs to do so, but I don't expect his FTr to ever be very high because 1) he's just not wired to draw contact at the rim, and 2) his 3PAr is going to be insane. |
He doesn't necessarily need a high FTr like, say, Harden. He ought to be closer to Curry or prime Kidd. If he can't manage that, he needs to get rewired. Otherwise, it's a hole in his game. |
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LakesGnrLake Star Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | I would be happy if he’s putting up 15/9/9 next year |
Lonzo averaged about 10/7/7 this year. If he has a Ingram level of improvement I think 13-16 points 8 rebounds and 9 assists doesnt seem too unreasonable. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | I would be happy if he’s putting up 15/9/9 next year |
Do you know how many players ever averaged 15/9/9 in NBA history?
Only Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson and Russell Westbrook.
Just stop posting (bleep), for Christ's sake. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo is back in the gym working out
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💪 pic.twitter.com/SfnZ4UH1dO |
we can all relax now
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epak Retired Number
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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beat u to it, sucka...
lol just kidding |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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how do we know that's not photoshopped?
we're going to need full video evidence, with 6 in person witnesses, and a signed document to confirm this. i'll also need record of his workout schedules to ensure that i can sleep at night |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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HOF Rookie wrote: |
how do we know that's not photoshopped?
we're going to need full video evidence, with 6 in person witnesses, and a signed document to confirm this. i'll also need record of his workout schedules to ensure that i can sleep at night |
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Kava Star Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like his form is all wrong. He shouldn't lift weights from the left side of his head. PLUS, He aint even sweat doh! |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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4.(second most important thing to work on after jumpshot) Work on ability and become more aggressive at getting into the paint and scoring. If he becomes a threat to take it all the way to the bucket, it will open up so many more easy bucket opportunities off his passes. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Peep the waves |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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There's one thing Magic and Rob want him to work on, and that's his body. They laid out pictures of MVP candidates, at age 19 and at age 23 when the player was MVP like. And the difference in their bodies was the key. |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Less Social media from Zo is a good sign |
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