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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject:

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? we drafted tony bradley and traded him. why would we have given him a promise just to trade him away.


IDK...some believe that is what took place....some have suggested they have "sources" that confirm the chain of events....I have no idea what happened, but we were rumored throughout the process that we promised him after combine, then we did draft him.....sure, it could be all coincidence.


utah drafted him. we traded the pick away before making the pick on behalf of utah. if bradley was really the guy we wanted clearly we wouldn't have done that.


not accurate...we drafted him


The swap was made before and then the Jazz picked who they wanted. lakers had to turn in the card.


yeah, I was watching ESPN that night also.....the claim is since we promised, we kept promise by drafting him at that slot, and officially consummated trade after we completed promise....and informed Bradley before the pick. Believe it or do not believe it....


That isn't how these things work.


ok......really, I have zero care it that is what took place or not....will never know the truth, and I am ok with that. Go with what you think took place.


Why though? Buss said himself how the trade went down.


He's obviously lying! It's an elaborate plot to...well, I don't know what the benefit is of lying here...but it's definitely a smokescreen after the fact!
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject:

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https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/998991051460259840

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They have no promise made, told that's not fact based


no promise to mitchell robinson.


an unsubstantiated rebuttal to an unsubstantiated rumor/claim.....I do not like the rumor, so it is false, but the rebuttal is accurate because it is my preference


Or...it's sourced from someone in the Front Office.


yeah, always a guaranteed source for honesty with the media


Would a FO person essentially USE Pincus? That would be a bad look.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:39 pm    Post subject:

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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


that would be something. this is the true end game for me. all shall fall prey to operation destroy luka's draft stock.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject:

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ok......really, I have zero care it that is what took place or not....will never know the truth, and I am ok with that. Go with what you think took place.


And you go ahead and go ahead thinking that Utah happened to want the guy that the Lakers had to take because they promised him and it all magically happened to work out for everyone.


not sure what is up with you.....your acting like a child. I repeated claims that have been well known and circulated for the past year, and your acting like I kicked your dog or something.
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


he may....but by tomorrow expect him to be top #12....but he probably peaked too early...the internet will tire of him before the draft.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject:

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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


that would be something. this is the true end game for me. all shall fall prey to operation destroy luka's draft stock.

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I honestly think highly skilled and will only get better...but how far does skill take you against the super elite level wings of the NBA?
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Mitchell Robinson threatens to tear LG apart!


lol, i honestly am happy with it if our FO has vetted him and truly wants him, because that means they're comfortable with the concerns I have about the guy. at this point, i trust our FO to draft reasonably.

i'm just trying to figure out what benefit there is to a team leaking a promise and then denying it, or the player leaking the promise and the team denying it, etc. etc.


I agree about the FO. If he clears their bar, that’s good enough for me. Given their success with older guys like Hart and Kuz late in the 1st round, along with the FAs they’ll be going after, the fact that they would opt for a player who is more of a developmental project tells me that they think he’s got the potential to be truly special.

Add that to his athleticism/size and the fact that he was knocking down 3s in some of that HS footage, and I love the idea of drafting him. Getting high lotto talent at 25 due to unique circumstances and shrewd moves by Rob would be amazing. Because if this is really true, the process of landing this guy very much resembles an agent landing a player, and falls outside the usual draft process.


As for the leaks- it does no good for the Lakers to leak it, so it wouldn’t have come from them. I go back to the idea that some of Robinson's advisors are amateurs, given his path over the last year, so them making amateur mistakes isn’t a surprise. They very well may not have meant to leak anything, but one of them may have told someone about the promise, and the next thing you know it’s a rumor.

I hope it’s true for the reasons stated above regarding the FO. If they’ve promised him, it’s because they think they’re getting a steal. And if he doesn’t interview/work out for anyone else, no one else is going to draft him.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:44 pm    Post subject:

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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


that would be something. this is the true end game for me. all shall fall prey to operation destroy luka's draft stock.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject:

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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject:

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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


he may....but by tomorrow expect him to be top #12....but he probably peaked too early...the internet will tire of him before the draft.

You're trolling me now.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.


Yeah I think 2018 might be a pretty weak draft. None of the top guys came in and really lit the world on fire...just Trae. There's going to be a lot of growing pains for every top guy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.


I think the bigs in this draft will be special tbh
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.


Yeah I think 2018 might be a pretty weak draft. None of the top guys came in and really lit the world on fire...just Trae. There's going to be a lot of growing pains for every top guy.


Agreed. I think the bigs will be special 5 years down the line though. ayton and young might make a quick splash
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.


Yeah I think 2018 might be a pretty weak draft. None of the top guys came in and really lit the world on fire...just Trae. There's going to be a lot of growing pains for every top guy.

It feels very 2011 draft to me. Hopefully there's a Klay, Kawhi, and Jimmy Butler buried among all the 2018 draft perimeter players because the lottery may disappoint.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:14 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.


I think the bigs in this draft will be special tbh

There are enough of them that 2-3 are bound to hit.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Watching Luca doncic’s highlights on YouTube...Maybe I’m missing something but I wouldn’t draft him in the top 5.

I hope he falls to the Lakers.


He’s first round talent...but I can’t see him being a top SF in the NBA against the level of athletes at that position. He’s highly skilled but skills only go so far against those types of athletes.

If that's the case, this is quickly becoming a garbage draft. A bunch of no defense bigs, a couple overrated slow initiators, a broken down Charlie Villanueva without alopecia, and too many damn 6'4 shooting guards.

Lonzo Ball > the entire 2018 draft.


I think the bigs in this draft will be special tbh

There are enough of them that 2-3 are bound to hit.


And those 2-3 will be Ayton, Bagley, and Robinson(if the Lakers take him).

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:38 pm    Post subject:

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conspiracy theory LG is the best LG


It's all a plot to end up with Bamba, obviously.
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conspiracy theory LG is the best LG


It's all a plot to end up with Bamba, obviously.

Mo Bamba? More like Mo Busta! That guy should fall out of the first round.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:44 pm    Post subject:

UCLA sauces intimating that Kris Wilkes and Jaylen Hands could stay in the draft regardless of front office projections. Wilkes could be an interesting developmental project at #47 and Hands could earn a two-way contract.
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UCLA sauces intimating that Kris Wilkes and Jaylen Hands could stay in the draft regardless of front office projections. Wilkes could be an interesting developmental project at #47 and Hands could earn a two-way contract.


I like Alford more than most and have defended him but he must be horrible to play for. He can’t even get fringe 2nd round guys to stay let alone fringe 1st round guys. Holiday is pretty much the only NBA caliber guy to stick around.
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UCLA sauces intimating that Kris Wilkes and Jaylen Hands could stay in the draft regardless of front office projections. Wilkes could be an interesting developmental project at #47 and Hands could earn a two-way contract.


I like Wilkes, he might turn into an Aries type. Never guys are anywhere near first round talent but at 47 I think it could be worth a shot.
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UCLA sauces intimating that Kris Wilkes and Jaylen Hands could stay in the draft regardless of front office projections. Wilkes could be an interesting developmental project at #47 and Hands could earn a two-way contract.


I like Wilkes, he might turn into an Aries type. Never guys are anywhere near first round talent but at 47 I think it could be worth a shot.


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UCLA sauces intimating that Kris Wilkes and Jaylen Hands could stay in the draft regardless of front office projections. Wilkes could be an interesting developmental project at #47 and Hands could earn a two-way contract.


I like Wilkes, he might turn into an Aries type. Never guys are anywhere near first round talent but at 47 I think it could be worth a shot.


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Hahaha. On my phone and doing too many things at once.

Just saying that Wilkes could be another ariza type but certainly neither Wilkes or hands are first rounders at this point.
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Hands was disappointing.
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