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frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
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For more than 70 years, Verda Byrd of Converse, Texas, thought she was black. Her adoptive parents were black and took her to worship at an all-black congregation. Her best friends were black, her boyfriends were black and she has been married twice – both times to black men.
Now Byrd, 72, has recently discovered that she is actually white. And she has a message for Rachel Dolezal, the former NAACP president in Spokane, Washington, who lied about her race.
"I respect her for wanting equal treatment, but the fact is, she outright lied," she tells PEOPLE. "That's what is so upsetting to me. She knew she was white and tried to be something she wasn't. Whereas in my case, the fact is, I simply did not know. And really, now that I know the truth, does it really matter?" |
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For more than 70 years, Verda Byrd of Converse, Texas, thought she was black. Her adoptive parents were black and took her to worship at an all-black congregation. Her best friends were black, her boyfriends were black and she has been married twice – both times to black men.
Now Byrd, 72, has recently discovered that she is actually white. And she has a message for Rachel Dolezal, the former NAACP president in Spokane, Washington, who lied about her race.
"I respect her for wanting equal treatment, but the fact is, she outright lied," she tells PEOPLE. "That's what is so upsetting to me. She knew she was white and tried to be something she wasn't. Whereas in my case, the fact is, I simply did not know. And really, now that I know the truth, does it really matter?" |
I'm White? What You Talkin Bout Willis? |
Looking at the two family photos with her parents when she was a child and when she was grown up, I would not have known she wasn't that woman's biological daughter. Her face looks more like her adoptive mother's than her actual biological mother's.
Dolezal just looks like a white woman with tanning cream and dreads. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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C M B wrote: | https://www.facebook.com/Maher/videos/10153312109427297/
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Hilarious! I was wondering why someone resurrected this thread. It looks like she's not trying as hard to look black anymore. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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Why is anyone, particularly Maher, giving that woman anymore attention? |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Why is anyone, particularly Maher, giving that woman anymore attention? |
To generate laughter at her expense, I suppose. Not worth it in your opinion? _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
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C M B wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Why is anyone, particularly Maher, giving that woman anymore attention? |
To generate laughter at her expense, I suppose. Not worth it in your opinion? |
Wasn't referring your posting it, just to the media's fascination with keeping this story going. The piece was funny, but not exactly timely. She was interviewed elsewhere a week or so ago. Why give such a disgraced attention seeker any more attention in my opinion. |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | C M B wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Why is anyone, particularly Maher, giving that woman anymore attention? |
To generate laughter at her expense, I suppose. Not worth it in your opinion? |
Wasn't referring your posting it, just to the media's fascination with keeping this story going. The piece was funny, but not exactly timely. She was interviewed elsewhere a week or so ago. Why give such a disgraced attention seeker any more attention in my opinion. |
I was thinking that it might have dawned on their writers about 5 months too late that Dolezal sounds like a typical stupid pharmaceutical drug name. There are some drugs out recently that sound rid0nkulous. Harvoni is one. Xeljanz another. Ironically, the drug Boniva sounds like it could be Rachel's first name if she really wanted to act the part. It once dawned on me that Skeletor would've been a perfect name for an osteoporosis drug. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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non-player zealot wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | C M B wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Why is anyone, particularly Maher, giving that woman anymore attention? |
To generate laughter at her expense, I suppose. Not worth it in your opinion? |
Wasn't referring your posting it, just to the media's fascination with keeping this story going. The piece was funny, but not exactly timely. She was interviewed elsewhere a week or so ago. Why give such a disgraced attention seeker any more attention in my opinion. |
I was thinking that it might have dawned on their writers about 5 months too late that Dolezal sounds like a typical stupid pharmaceutical drug name. There are some drugs out recently that sound rid0nkulous. Harvoni is one. Xeljanz another. Ironically, the drug Boniva sounds like it could be Rachel's first name if she really wanted to act the part. It once dawned on me that Skeletor would've been a perfect name for an osteoporosis drug. |
That was my thought. The name so fit the skit. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/25/rachel-dolezal-who-posed-black-woman-accused-welfare-fraud/643773002/
Quote: | Rachel Dolezal, former NAACP leader who posed as a black woman, accused of welfare fraud
The woman who was infamously outed as a white woman after pretending to be black has been charged with welfare fraud Buzz60
Rachel Dolezal, the former Washington state NAACP president thrust into the spotlight after media revealed she was a white woman posing as black, is facing welfare fraud charges.
Dolezal, who legally changed her name to Nkechi Diallo in 2016, could face up to 15 years in prison after authorities say she received thousands of dollars in public assistance. She’s accused of welfare fraud, perjury and false verification for public assistance, TV station KHQ reports.
Court documents obtained by KHQ show the mother who identifies as “transracial” illegally received $8,747 in food assistance and $100 in childcare assistance from August 2015 through November 2017.
In February of 2017, she talked about how she was living on food stamps in an interview with The Guardian, saying the only work she's been offered was in reality TV and pornography. At that time, she said she was worried about becoming homeless. She has two biological sons.
The following month, she published a book, In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World, causing Washington State Department of Social and Health Services to become skeptical of her income reports of less than $500 a month.
More: Rachel Dolezal: I was ‘too black’ for my husband
Bank records indicated she had deposited about $83,924 into her bank account in several monthly installments between August 2015 and September 2017, without reporting the income to the DSHS, according to court documents.
During a television interview in November 2015, Dolezal acknowledged being born to white parents, but also said she identifies as black. Amid the controversy of her racial identity she stepped down as president of the Spokane, Wash., branch of the NAACP.
The former civil rights activist and African studies teacher changed her name to help with job searches but continues to use Dolezal for her public persona.
Last month, Netflix premiered a documentary about her life titled The Rachel Divide. |
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Basketball Fan wrote: | https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/25/rachel-dolezal-who-posed-black-woman-accused-welfare-fraud/643773002/
Quote: | Rachel Dolezal, former NAACP leader who posed as a black woman, accused of welfare fraud
The woman who was infamously outed as a white woman after pretending to be black has been charged with welfare fraud Buzz60
Rachel Dolezal, the former Washington state NAACP president thrust into the spotlight after media revealed she was a white woman posing as black, is facing welfare fraud charges.
Dolezal, who legally changed her name to Nkechi Diallo in 2016, could face up to 15 years in prison after authorities say she received thousands of dollars in public assistance. She’s accused of welfare fraud, perjury and false verification for public assistance, TV station KHQ reports.
Court documents obtained by KHQ show the mother who identifies as “transracial” illegally received $8,747 in food assistance and $100 in childcare assistance from August 2015 through November 2017.
In February of 2017, she talked about how she was living on food stamps in an interview with The Guardian, saying the only work she's been offered was in reality TV and pornography. At that time, she said she was worried about becoming homeless. She has two biological sons.
The following month, she published a book, In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World, causing Washington State Department of Social and Health Services to become skeptical of her income reports of less than $500 a month.
More: Rachel Dolezal: I was ‘too black’ for my husband
Bank records indicated she had deposited about $83,924 into her bank account in several monthly installments between August 2015 and September 2017, without reporting the income to the DSHS, according to court documents.
During a television interview in November 2015, Dolezal acknowledged being born to white parents, but also said she identifies as black. Amid the controversy of her racial identity she stepped down as president of the Spokane, Wash., branch of the NAACP.
The former civil rights activist and African studies teacher changed her name to help with job searches but continues to use Dolezal for her public persona.
Last month, Netflix premiered a documentary about her life titled The Rachel Divide. |
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Maybe she identifies as qualified to receive welfare? _________________ "All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers."
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Maybe she identifies as qualified to receive welfare? |
Well played sir . . . well played. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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Huey Lewis & The News wrote: | Basketball Fan wrote: | https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/25/rachel-dolezal-who-posed-black-woman-accused-welfare-fraud/643773002/
Quote: | Rachel Dolezal, former NAACP leader who posed as a black woman, accused of welfare fraud
The woman who was infamously outed as a white woman after pretending to be black has been charged with welfare fraud Buzz60
Rachel Dolezal, the former Washington state NAACP president thrust into the spotlight after media revealed she was a white woman posing as black, is facing welfare fraud charges.
Dolezal, who legally changed her name to Nkechi Diallo in 2016, could face up to 15 years in prison after authorities say she received thousands of dollars in public assistance. She’s accused of welfare fraud, perjury and false verification for public assistance, TV station KHQ reports.
Court documents obtained by KHQ show the mother who identifies as “transracial” illegally received $8,747 in food assistance and $100 in childcare assistance from August 2015 through November 2017.
In February of 2017, she talked about how she was living on food stamps in an interview with The Guardian, saying the only work she's been offered was in reality TV and pornography. At that time, she said she was worried about becoming homeless. She has two biological sons.
The following month, she published a book, In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World, causing Washington State Department of Social and Health Services to become skeptical of her income reports of less than $500 a month.
More: Rachel Dolezal: I was ‘too black’ for my husband
Bank records indicated she had deposited about $83,924 into her bank account in several monthly installments between August 2015 and September 2017, without reporting the income to the DSHS, according to court documents.
During a television interview in November 2015, Dolezal acknowledged being born to white parents, but also said she identifies as black. Amid the controversy of her racial identity she stepped down as president of the Spokane, Wash., branch of the NAACP.
The former civil rights activist and African studies teacher changed her name to help with job searches but continues to use Dolezal for her public persona.
Last month, Netflix premiered a documentary about her life titled The Rachel Divide. |
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Maybe she identifies as qualified to receive welfare? |
If she pays back the $8,747 will she escape jail time? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Don Draper wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
The truth of the matter is this. That one drop rule came from white racists. but because it was forced onto society, blacks took that to heart. if you have just one drop you're one of us.
Truth is, its more about optics than actual ethnicity. If you are 50% black/50% White, but you look mostly white. odds are you can float around even racist whites as being white. if you're very light in complexion but still have black features, you will get preferential treatment among whites and blacks. But Racist white at some point will remind you that you do have some black blood in you.
But if you truly know what you know today. If you're half black. you're actually.....half black.
Obama was not a black man in the white house from a biological perspective. he was a half African(he knew exactly where his dad came from in Africa) and Half White guy(mom was white). But to the optics he was a dark enough shade to catch that racist heat from white people. Once he marred Michelle who is full black. It was more of a push to make him black. Truth is, he was bi-racial. |
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splashmtn wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
The truth of the matter is this. That one drop rule came from white racists. but because it was forced onto society, blacks took that to heart. if you have just one drop you're one of us.
Truth is, its more about optics than actual ethnicity. If you are 50% black/50% White, but you look mostly white. odds are you can float around even racist whites as being white. if you're very light in complexion but still have black features, you will get preferential treatment among whites and blacks. But Racist white at some point will remind you that you do have some black blood in you.
But if you truly know what you know today. If you're half black. you're actually.....half black.
Obama was not a black man in the white house from a biological perspective. he was a half African(he knew exactly where his dad came from in Africa) and Half White guy(mom was white). But to the optics he was a dark enough shade to catch that racist heat from white people. Once he marred Michelle who is full black. It was more of a push to make him black. Truth is, he was bi-racial. |
As a halfie, I can relate to this and agree it is mostly optics. But I think it mostly has to do with the predominant ethnicity in the country.
If you are a halfie asian like me, in asia, they would consider me more white. So not a full asian more so than not a full white even though both are true.
I’m sure the same is true for mexicans thst are half white. If you go back to Mexico, do they consider you mexican, or something that is short of full mexican? |
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My great grandfather was a full blooded Cherokee. Am I Indian? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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jodeke wrote: | My great grandfather was a full blooded Cherokee. Am I Indian? |
No. I’d say you are part Native American. |
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jodeke wrote: | My great grandfather was a full blooded Cherokee. Am I Indian? |
If each parent is 50% of your DNA. Each grandparent is 25%. And each great grandparent is 12.5%.
Cherokee nation says lineal descent counts.
Cherokee in OKL require 25%.
N. Carolina Cherokee only require 6.25%
https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/news/native-news/what-percentage-indian-do-you-have-to-be-in-order-to-be-a-member-of-a-tribe-or-nation/
Is your great grandfather the only person of Native American descent? If you're great grandmother is full blooded too. You're set with all major Cherokee tribes. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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ringfinger wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
The truth of the matter is this. That one drop rule came from white racists. but because it was forced onto society, blacks took that to heart. if you have just one drop you're one of us.
Truth is, its more about optics than actual ethnicity. If you are 50% black/50% White, but you look mostly white. odds are you can float around even racist whites as being white. if you're very light in complexion but still have black features, you will get preferential treatment among whites and blacks. But Racist white at some point will remind you that you do have some black blood in you.
But if you truly know what you know today. If you're half black. you're actually.....half black.
Obama was not a black man in the white house from a biological perspective. he was a half African(he knew exactly where his dad came from in Africa) and Half White guy(mom was white). But to the optics he was a dark enough shade to catch that racist heat from white people. Once he marred Michelle who is full black. It was more of a push to make him black. Truth is, he was bi-racial. |
As a halfie, I can relate to this and agree it is mostly optics. But I think it mostly has to do with the predominant ethnicity in the country.
If you are a halfie asian like me, in asia, they would consider me more white. So not a full asian more so than not a full white even though both are true.
I’m sure the same is true for mexicans thst are half white. If you go back to Mexico, do they consider you mexican, or something that is short of full mexican? |
Some Mexicans are predominantly white. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Omar Little wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
The truth of the matter is this. That one drop rule came from white racists. but because it was forced onto society, blacks took that to heart. if you have just one drop you're one of us.
Truth is, its more about optics than actual ethnicity. If you are 50% black/50% White, but you look mostly white. odds are you can float around even racist whites as being white. if you're very light in complexion but still have black features, you will get preferential treatment among whites and blacks. But Racist white at some point will remind you that you do have some black blood in you.
But if you truly know what you know today. If you're half black. you're actually.....half black.
Obama was not a black man in the white house from a biological perspective. he was a half African(he knew exactly where his dad came from in Africa) and Half White guy(mom was white). But to the optics he was a dark enough shade to catch that racist heat from white people. Once he marred Michelle who is full black. It was more of a push to make him black. Truth is, he was bi-racial. |
As a halfie, I can relate to this and agree it is mostly optics. But I think it mostly has to do with the predominant ethnicity in the country.
If you are a halfie asian like me, in asia, they would consider me more white. So not a full asian more so than not a full white even though both are true.
I’m sure the same is true for mexicans thst are half white. If you go back to Mexico, do they consider you mexican, or something that is short of full mexican? |
Some Mexicans are predominantly white. |
Is that why they have a White Hispanic option for race? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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jodeke wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
The truth of the matter is this. That one drop rule came from white racists. but because it was forced onto society, blacks took that to heart. if you have just one drop you're one of us.
Truth is, its more about optics than actual ethnicity. If you are 50% black/50% White, but you look mostly white. odds are you can float around even racist whites as being white. if you're very light in complexion but still have black features, you will get preferential treatment among whites and blacks. But Racist white at some point will remind you that you do have some black blood in you.
But if you truly know what you know today. If you're half black. you're actually.....half black.
Obama was not a black man in the white house from a biological perspective. he was a half African(he knew exactly where his dad came from in Africa) and Half White guy(mom was white). But to the optics he was a dark enough shade to catch that racist heat from white people. Once he marred Michelle who is full black. It was more of a push to make him black. Truth is, he was bi-racial. |
As a halfie, I can relate to this and agree it is mostly optics. But I think it mostly has to do with the predominant ethnicity in the country.
If you are a halfie asian like me, in asia, they would consider me more white. So not a full asian more so than not a full white even though both are true.
I’m sure the same is true for mexicans thst are half white. If you go back to Mexico, do they consider you mexican, or something that is short of full mexican? |
Some Mexicans are predominantly white. |
Is that why they have a White Hispanic option for race? |
Yes. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Why does racial ethnicity define a human being?
Fellow human being? |
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splashmtn Star Player
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jodeke wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | C M B wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | C M B wrote: | It was through this story that I found out that Jennifer Beals is half black! |
Jennifer Beals is black. No such thing as half black. Just watched Flashdance the other day. Man, cheesy story, cheesy acting, cheesy dancing. But it was worth watching because she was hot as hell. |
You're gonna have to explain this to me. Why is it not reasonable to refer to someone of biracial heredity as half _____? And I think it'd be just as reasonable to refer to Beals as "white". She's still hot in 2015 btw. |
Same here. I never heard of anyone not accepting the half rule when it comes to ethnicity. My sons are half white, half latino. No good? |
You guys need to watch Trevor Noah's special on Netflix. He gives a great explanation of this phenomenon. |
The truth of the matter is this. That one drop rule came from white racists. but because it was forced onto society, blacks took that to heart. if you have just one drop you're one of us.
Truth is, its more about optics than actual ethnicity. If you are 50% black/50% White, but you look mostly white. odds are you can float around even racist whites as being white. if you're very light in complexion but still have black features, you will get preferential treatment among whites and blacks. But Racist white at some point will remind you that you do have some black blood in you.
But if you truly know what you know today. If you're half black. you're actually.....half black.
Obama was not a black man in the white house from a biological perspective. he was a half African(he knew exactly where his dad came from in Africa) and Half White guy(mom was white). But to the optics he was a dark enough shade to catch that racist heat from white people. Once he marred Michelle who is full black. It was more of a push to make him black. Truth is, he was bi-racial. |
As a halfie, I can relate to this and agree it is mostly optics. But I think it mostly has to do with the predominant ethnicity in the country.
If you are a halfie asian like me, in asia, they would consider me more white. So not a full asian more so than not a full white even though both are true.
I’m sure the same is true for mexicans thst are half white. If you go back to Mexico, do they consider you mexican, or something that is short of full mexican? |
Some Mexicans are predominantly white. |
Is that why they have a White Hispanic option for race? | well yes, and its also to get their numbers up just in case they start to become out number, they allow other groups into what is called "white". The irish were not in the group early on either. Neither were the Italians. but when I say white in that regard i dont mean white as in color. I mean white as in the anglo-saxon/the dominant ruling CLASS..
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/24ojrl/how_did_the_irish_italians_and_jews_become_white/chbuzzk/
make sure to click on that image link. now i have never in life seen those pictures.
http://theconversation.com/comparing-black-people-to-monkeys-has-a-long-dark-simian-history-55102
^kind of long but accurate breakdown. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Why does racial ethnicity define a human being?
Fellow human being? | this question should only be posed to the white ruling class. they are the only ones with a real answer since their ancestors started it and they as a group (not every single individual) continue it. |
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