great vid GT - I think a big part of Ingram's development is going to be deciding when to commit to unleashing those long strides vs recognizing when going into full extension might get him in trouble. Reading his defender more or less. Because while his length is a great weapon for getting around guys, if he commits full extension and doesn't get his shoulders by, he's in serious trouble. _________________ substance over style
great vid GT - I think a big part of Ingram's development is going to be deciding when to commit to unleashing those long strides vs recognizing when going into full extension might get him in trouble. Reading his defender more or less. Because while his length is a great weapon for getting around guys, if he commits full extension and doesn't get his shoulders by, he's in serious trouble.
I think his decision-making is the single biggest variable in his development, even more than his shooting. He shoots pretty well on the shots he should take, but takes a lot of shots that he shouldn't. I'm hoping this is somewhere where the "he's 20" stuff has a good deal of validity.
great vid GT - I think a big part of Ingram's development is going to be deciding when to commit to unleashing those long strides vs recognizing when going into full extension might get him in trouble. Reading his defender more or less. Because while his length is a great weapon for getting around guys, if he commits full extension and doesn't get his shoulders by, he's in serious trouble.
I think his decision-making is the single biggest variable in his development, even more than his shooting. He shoots pretty well on the shots he should take, but takes a lot of shots that he shouldn't. I'm hoping this is somewhere where the "he's 20" stuff has a good deal of validity.
absolutely. he has the skills and the physical tools. even if he didn't develop anything new and just learned when to do what with what he's already got that's, a great player. _________________ substance over style
Let me just say, GT, listening to you on the most recent Locked on Lakers, your growth as an analyst and public communicator over the past 18 months has blown me away. Kudos to you!
Let me just say, GT, listening to you on the most recent Locked on Lakers, your growth as an analyst and public communicator over the past 18 months has blown me away. Kudos to you!
Thanks, BVH! If your'e blown away, how do you think I feel?
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject:
GT, you should post your appearances on Locked on Lakers too dude. The awkward Harrison shade is worth the listen alone... plus I guess there is that Anthony guy too. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
GT, you should post your appearances on Locked on Lakers too dude. The awkward Harrison shade is worth the listen alone... plus I guess there is that Anthony guy too.
Any chance we’ll get some LFR classics this off-season?
Maybe, I'm crazy busy and have another thing coming up that I can't announce yet.
Any requests?
My vote is for Kobe’s worst game ever. I believe it was against the hornets or Memphis. He pretty much missed every shot he took except for the game winner lol.
I remember the crowd’s gasp and anxiety with every miss. When he finally hit the winner I was so excited I spiked my tv remote on the ground so hard the batteries broke through the plastic cover haha
The very first game (vs Denver, I believe) where he had the court appearance during the day & played the same night.. I believe he hit the game winner that game as well..
My 2nd game would be the game vs the Mavericks where we were down damn near 30 in the 4th & came back & won..
My wife is a retired orthopedic surgeon. For years, she'd harped at me that there's a general public misconception regarding the human body with regard to build and biomechanics. She believes (and I have come to agree with her) that in general, people falsely believe that what one person can do - another person should be able to do as well.
There's many hidden-from-the-eye physical traits that prevent one person from doing physically what another can do, or at least enough to explain away the performance differences between two individuals. At the high performance levels of pro basketball for example, and with regard to leaping with quickness, leaping with strength, leaping for height, distance and leaping in succession, these issues of build can be enormous factors.
In the case of Rudy Gay for example, I reckon we may be looking at an extreme case of near-perfection in terms of original hip, leg, foot and ankle build with respect to the performance areas demanded by this sport. It's complex: ligament and tendon size, nerve efficiency and sensitivity and signal transmission rates, bone shapes, muscle fiber compositions. In some ways, taken together it's a gift, if one undamaged in life's experience. We think it's more than likely that only a handful of people in a given generation will have the array of precise physical advantages which Gay may have been born into.
All a guy like Ingram can do is keep working on technique and training (as described in earlier parts of the thread) and hope for the best. He may never have performances akin to what Gay and the rare few like him produce with such visible ease.
My wife is a retired orthopedic surgeon. For years, she'd harped at me that there's a general public misconception regarding the human body with regard to build and biomechanics. She believes (and I have come to agree with her) that in general, people falsely believe that what one person can do - another person should be able to do as well.
There's many hidden-from-the-eye physical traits that prevent one person from doing physically what another can do, or at least enough to explain away the performance differences between two individuals. At the high performance levels of pro basketball for example, and with regard to leaping with quickness, leaping with strength, leaping for height, distance and leaping in succession, these issues of build can be enormous factors.
In the case of Rudy Gay for example, I reckon we may be looking at an extreme case of near-perfection in terms of original hip, leg, foot and ankle build with respect to the performance areas demanded by this sport. It's complex: ligament and tendon size, nerve efficiency and sensitivity and signal transmission rates, bone shapes, muscle fiber compositions. In some ways, taken together it's a gift, if one undamaged in life's experience. We think it's more than likely that only a handful of people in a given generation will have the array of precise physical advantages which Gay may have been born into.
All a guy like Ingram can do is keep working on technique and training (as described in earlier parts of the thread) and hope for the best. He may never have performances akin to what Gay and the rare few like him produce with such visible ease.
Great post and I agree. Each individual human has a unique dna makeup and has unique gifts. The old cliche is true: Be the best that YOU can be.
My wife is a retired orthopedic surgeon. For years, she'd harped at me that there's a general public misconception regarding the human body with regard to build and biomechanics. She believes (and I have come to agree with her) that in general, people falsely believe that what one person can do - another person should be able to do as well.
There's many hidden-from-the-eye physical traits that prevent one person from doing physically what another can do, or at least enough to explain away the performance differences between two individuals. At the high performance levels of pro basketball for example, and with regard to leaping with quickness, leaping with strength, leaping for height, distance and leaping in succession, these issues of build can be enormous factors.
In the case of Rudy Gay for example, I reckon we may be looking at an extreme case of near-perfection in terms of original hip, leg, foot and ankle build with respect to the performance areas demanded by this sport. It's complex: ligament and tendon size, nerve efficiency and sensitivity and signal transmission rates, bone shapes, muscle fiber compositions. In some ways, taken together it's a gift, if one undamaged in life's experience. We think it's more than likely that only a handful of people in a given generation will have the array of precise physical advantages which Gay may have been born into.
All a guy like Ingram can do is keep working on technique and training (as described in earlier parts of the thread) and hope for the best. He may never have performances akin to what Gay and the rare few like him produce with such visible ease.
Great post and I agree. Each individual human has a unique dna makeup and has unique gifts. The old cliche is true: Be the best that YOU can be.
Totally agree with the premise. It, at least for me, comes down to how most people view things superficially. Most assume a man should be able to dunk with ease if he's 6'5, , or a woman is probably stuck up if she's beautiful, etc.,
I've seen many a tall guy who can't touch the rim nor dunk, and many a short guy that will throw it down with the best. From a physicality standpoint, people are as different as their fingerprints, despite appearances.
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 12186 Location: Bay Area
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:21 am Post subject:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
Any chance we’ll get some LFR classics this off-season?
Maybe, I'm crazy busy and have another thing coming up that I can't announce yet.
Any requests?
Totally understood. If you did get around to it:
(i) Game 1 of the 2002 WCF vs the Kings. Best I've ever seen the Triangle offense run, I think there is a lot of gold to mine there, lot of teachable stuff about spacing . . . plus it's a fun contrast between the triangle and an offense that would resemble today's league;
(ii) the transition offense principles of the Showtime Lakers and any lessons that can be imparted upon today's young players (what I'd like to learn about: how much of that special time period is uniquely attributable to Magic and how much of that was a product of smart spacing and gapping principles);
(iii) the Final 23: from 2-22-2013 to 4-12-2013, Kobe Bryant played some of the best basketball of his career, almost singlehandedly leading the Lakers into the playoffs before famously tearing his achilles. Playing largely as a PG in D'antoni's heavy P/R system, Kobe shredded defenses, posting multiple 40-point-10-assist games, leading three huge comebacks (and had what remains, I believe, the only 47/8/5/4/3 game in history @ Portland). For fans thinking "what would KB look like in today's league), this is probably the best snapshot available to us. I'd love to know what D'antoni and KB were doing to get to that level of play and see if there is anything we can take from that time and adopt with today's team. [FWIW, KB averaged: 29 PTS, 7 assists, 6.2 rebounds, 1.4 steals, .4 blocks, 4.0 turnovers - he missed 2 games (so it's really the final 21, but who's counting)
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:08 am Post subject:
Big man tragedy.
I'd be scratching my head to understand the interest in another big man right now. He can't handle the ball or shoot. Not a high hoops IQ guy.
Even though the Lakers won't have resolved contracts for Lopez or Randle at draft time, I'd much prefer that they acquire a more sorely-needed guard asset. The board will be rich of small guys (a handful at least from among DiV, Huerter, Thomas, Frazier, Milton, Holiday, Trent, Brunson, Brown, Melton.) With Ball's two year history at UCLA and Staples splattered with nicks and outages, get the best smart guard possible. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
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