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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject:

first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject:

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first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:43 am    Post subject:

Mini Mamba wrote:
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first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


I read they are about to start to again. that is why they started signing these guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject:

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first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


they are just now re entering the market....personally, I am a fan of Puma and their recent casual athletic and running shoes.....have little doubt they will make a quality basketball shoe again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject:

I think Ayton choosing Puma is not too big of a surprise; Puma is really popular in the Bahamas apparently.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject:

ESPN put out what it calls its "perfect"/ "Grade A" mock for the 1st round, with their own form of current and potential ratings in categories from shooting to passing to perimeter D.

They have us picking DiVincenzo at 25. I'd be fine with that... but notably, Hutchison is NOT listed in the 1st round at all. They also have Huerter at 20, and Jerome Robinson at 26.

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How he fits: The Lakers struggled to score with backup point guards Alex Caruso and Tyler Ennis on the court last season. DiVincenzo would bring far more scoring punch to the position, and his shooting ability would allow him to play off the ball alongside Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram -- or, perhaps, a free agent the Lakers can sign this summer.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject:

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ESPN put out what it calls its "perfect"/ "Grade A" mock for the 1st round, with their own form of current and potential ratings in categories from shooting to passing to perimeter D.

They have us picking DiVincenzo at 25. I'd be fine with that... but notably, Hutchison is NOT listed in the 1st round at all. They also have Huerter at 20, and Jerome Robinson at 26.

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How he fits: The Lakers struggled to score with backup point guards Alex Caruso and Tyler Ennis on the court last season. DiVincenzo would bring far more scoring punch to the position, and his shooting ability would allow him to play off the ball alongside Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram -- or, perhaps, a free agent the Lakers can sign this summer.


ESPN "Perfect" Mock Draft


if melton and huerter and them are gone already i would have no problem with the lakers taking DDV at 25

edit: that mock showing melton to the celtiKKKs is gross. i trust the lakers with their drafting but passing on melton if he's available at 25 would hurt
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject:

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Can't believe it's only 4 more days...
Hopefully we find out about our lotto pick before then.



Find out before? Totally impossible. To many teams pick ahead of the Lakers for us to actually know who will be there.

We will know on Thursday.


I meant if we trade for a lotto pick


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject:

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Bates-Diop in depth: https://94feetreport.com/keita-bates-diop-the-next-prototype-8768092b870a


I echo BVs summary verbatim. I don't agree w a lot of 94 feet report.

What's lost is how much physical development KBD has had already. How much more eohysical upside is there after gaining almost 40lbs NCAA?

When you watch KBD through a more developed MBAM lens, the perceived value rises dramatically.

Again, I’m not an expert on him at all, never watched him play actual games, but are you essentially saying that you can’t envision Diop, a 22 year-old, gaining more weight, adding more strength and muscle mass?

If you are implying he can’t “grow” anymore, you must not remember Elden Campbell. He came to the Lakers 6’11, 205 soaking wet. He retired from the NBA at nearly 300 pounds. He can gain more weight and strength if he desires to, IMO. No problem.


Elden Campbell in his prime was 245lbs. Getting near 300lbs., is just letting himself go and not being effective.

It took Campbell what, 3-5 years just to get to that 245 mark? Did he even retain any of that athleticism when his weight exceeded that? I don't think so. At least Campbell was an energy big with major hops as a rookie. KBD, is not that. He doesn't exactly have "Athleticism to spare" for the sake of adding more bulk.

I wish you had’ve answered my question instead of critiquing an example.

My question was in response to this: “How much more physical upside is there after gaining almost 40lbs in the NCAA?”


That's why I critiqued the answer. You gave the example of Elden Campbell at nearly 300lbs. He lost almost all of his athleticism at that point.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject:

MIMLaker wrote:
ESPN put out what it calls its "perfect"/ "Grade A" mock for the 1st round, with their own form of current and potential ratings in categories from shooting to passing to perimeter D.

They have us picking DiVincenzo at 25. I'd be fine with that... but notably, Hutchison is NOT listed in the 1st round at all. They also have Huerter at 20, and Jerome Robinson at 26.

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How he fits: The Lakers struggled to score with backup point guards Alex Caruso and Tyler Ennis on the court last season. DiVincenzo would bring far more scoring punch to the position, and his shooting ability would allow him to play off the ball alongside Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram -- or, perhaps, a free agent the Lakers can sign this summer.


ESPN "Perfect" Mock Draft


Eh, I'd have a problem with it, but I guess we don't know until they hit the floor. Like really? Pass up on Melton?

How can Jerome Robinson have "less shooting potential" than Divincenzo if he's a better overall shooter across the board AND the #1 option for his team?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject:

PG13 wrote:
Mini Mamba wrote:
adkindo wrote:
first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


I read they are about to start to again. that is why they started signing these guys.


I'd love to see Pony also make a comeback.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:40 pm    Post subject:

The Grind wrote:
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Mini Mamba wrote:
adkindo wrote:
first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


I read they are about to start to again. that is why they started signing these guys.


I'd love to see Pony also make a comeback.


I'd love to see Converse make a comeback in the basketball sneaker game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
ESPN put out what it calls its "perfect"/ "Grade A" mock for the 1st round, with their own form of current and potential ratings in categories from shooting to passing to perimeter D.

They have us picking DiVincenzo at 25. I'd be fine with that... but notably, Hutchison is NOT listed in the 1st round at all. They also have Huerter at 20, and Jerome Robinson at 26.

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How he fits: The Lakers struggled to score with backup point guards Alex Caruso and Tyler Ennis on the court last season. DiVincenzo would bring far more scoring punch to the position, and his shooting ability would allow him to play off the ball alongside Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram -- or, perhaps, a free agent the Lakers can sign this summer.


ESPN "Perfect" Mock Draft


Eh, I'd have a problem with it, but I guess we don't know until they hit the floor. Like really? Pass up on Melton?

How can Jerome Robinson have "less shooting potential" than Divincenzo if he's a better overall shooter across the board AND the #1 option for his team?


I disagree with them ranking DDV above Jerome Robinson rather than over Melton. Despite Melton's defensive prowess, his lack of shooting still concerns me.

However, I agree that a lot of people seem to be undervaluing Robinson's track record and tenure and improvement next to DiVincenzo's Tournament hype.

That being said, I lean to DDV over JR more because of his familiarity with a system that seems at least philosophically similar to ours. I'm not looking to get a roster full of Villanova players, but I see his defensive training at Nova and his physical build giving him a slight edge over Robinson.

Again, though, if Hutchison, Huerter, and DDV weren't available, and it came down to JR or Melton, I could live with taking JR fairly easily on the basis of his more complete, all-around game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:55 pm    Post subject:

Mini Mamba wrote:
The Grind wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Mini Mamba wrote:
adkindo wrote:
first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


I read they are about to start to again. that is why they started signing these guys.


I'd love to see Pony also make a comeback.


I'd love to see Converse make a comeback in the basketball sneaker game.


D-Wade had a nice converse silhouette back when he got his first ring IIRC.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:53 pm    Post subject:

The Grind wrote:
Mini Mamba wrote:
The Grind wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Mini Mamba wrote:
adkindo wrote:
first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


I read they are about to start to again. that is why they started signing these guys.


I'd love to see Pony also make a comeback.


I'd love to see Converse make a comeback in the basketball sneaker game.


D-Wade had a nice converse silhouette back when he got his first ring IIRC.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23835510/jay-z-named-president-puma-basketball
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject:

Am I the only one who wants Duke SG Gary Trent Jr with the 25 pick ?

Kinda reminds me of Josh Hart and seems NBA ready to contribute.
Great shooter who’s capable of guarding multiple positions on defense.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:03 pm    Post subject:

The Grind wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Mini Mamba wrote:
adkindo wrote:
first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Does Puma make basketball shoes anymore?


I read they are about to start to again. that is why they started signing these guys.


I'd love to see Pony also make a comeback.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:18 pm    Post subject:

Man the more I look at this draft the more I would be willing to trade down if Atlanta would be willing to trade 30,34 for 25. Not sure who would be left at 30 but at 34 and 47 I would want to take carter and Justin jackson. I think both will be elite defenders and would fit nicely on the 2nd team. The question is who will be there at 30 could melton or Robinson fall that far? I have seen some mocks that melton falls that far not sure if it is realistic but the idea of adding melton carter and Jackson to help our defense is very attractive
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
first Bagley, and now Ayton signs with Puma


Can’t believe they didn’t sign w/ BBB
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject:

Mavs want Luca

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https://twitter.com/r0bato/status/1008847925244506112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba-draft
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject:

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Mavs want Luca

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https://twitter.com/r0bato/status/1008847925244506112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba-draft

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:09 pm    Post subject:

Suns need to make trades.

Too many young players and too many picks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject:

kawhileonard wrote:
Suns need to make trades.

Too many young players and too many picks.


I expect them to be active in the trade/free agent market. Their GM is under the gun this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject:

Some draft prop bets you can make here. Interesting that DiVincenzo's O/U draft position is 21.5 on this site...

https://www.sportsbook.com/sbk/sportsbook4/nba-betting/nba-draft.sbk
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