OFFICIAL BROOK LOPEZ THREAD (Signs 1 yr deal with Bucks)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject:

Thon Maker was really a bad pick for them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:47 pm    Post subject:

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Thon Maker was really a bad pick for them.

True, but it was a terrible draft, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject:

Wow, I guess we are holding the cap space for someone else.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:53 pm    Post subject:

34% from three and 4.0 rebounds per game.

I love Brook but I don’t think averaging those types of numbers this season helped his case to stay.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:53 pm    Post subject:

Wtf why wouldn't he just stay here for that amount of money?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:53 pm    Post subject:

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I think Monroe is still out there. Not sure how he fits in today game.


Boston traded for him last season and he was completely unusable in the playoffs.


He was bought out
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:55 pm    Post subject:

Would have prefered to bring Brook back, but clearly that wasn't the Lakers' strategy.

Small ball has become a dominant strategy in the league. Teams run true bigs off the floor. The only point where it makes sense to commit to a (non-star) true big is in the earlier parts of games. The reason for that is foul trouble risk. There is a lot of contact in the post and you don't want the other team to be able to play a big that gets your smaller lineup in foul trouble early.

As the game goes on, risk of fouling out goes down and the pendulum swings to small ball. These days that happens pretty quickly. If your team strategy is going to be pace, playmaking, switching and spacing, you don't invest much if anything in the true big category. McGee gives you a mobile anchor who can give you 18 mpg, Zubac is a big body that excels with a true PnR ball handler and Wagner appears to be a good spacer. But what this is really saying is that you're committing to playing forwards at the five a significant amount of time. That's going to be interesting in certain matchups.

Starting Centers, Western Conference:
Nurkic, Adams, Gobert, Davis, Towns, Joikc, DeAndre, Gortat, WCS, Marc, Pau, Ayton, Capela, Draymond

Starting Centers, Select Eastern Conference:
East: Embiid, Horford, Jonas, Turner

If we're talking playoffs, Adams, Gobert, Davis and Embiid (East) are the ones we would be hard pressed to match up with (discounting others like Nurkic b/c I think we beat them anyway). Perhaps they expect there to be Centers on the buyout market.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject:

Stu Lantz is happy about this, he really seemed irritated when he was mentioning about Lopez having low rebounding numbers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
Wtf why wouldn't he just stay here for that amount of money?


Two most likely explanations: He thinks his role on the Bucks will allow him to garner a better contract next year, or the Lakers didn't offer him the same amount of money or more.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
Wtf why wouldn't he just stay here for that amount of money?


Because he wasn't offered any money.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:58 pm    Post subject:

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Wtf why wouldn't he just stay here for that amount of money?


Because he wasn't offered any money.

How do you know? If he was willing to take that much I'm sure his agent and the FO could have worked something out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:04 pm    Post subject:

I’ll miss the joint smoking 3’s. That’s about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:42 pm    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
Wtf why wouldn't he just stay here for that amount of money?


Because it was not offered
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:42 pm    Post subject:

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Stu Lantz is happy about this, he really seemed irritated when he was mentioning about Lopez having low rebounding numbers.


And Stu hated him staying out near the 3pt line
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:10 pm    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
55 wrote:
trablos wrote:
Wtf why wouldn't he just stay here for that amount of money?


Because he wasn't offered any money.

How do you know? If he was willing to take that much I'm sure his agent and the FO could have worked something out.


You just answered it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:18 pm    Post subject:

I think Mo can play the backup 5 spot. He will be going against NBA backup 5s so it shouldn’t be too much of an issue. Also, I can see LB or Kuz playing the 5 to closeout some games as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
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Stu Lantz is happy about this, he really seemed irritated when he was mentioning about Lopez having low rebounding numbers.


And Stu hated him staying out near the 3pt line


Stu barely bothers to prepare for games and is not well informed.

That said, obviously Bro Lo must not have been in the Lakers plans if he went for that price.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:22 pm    Post subject:

55 wrote:
I wont be losing sleep over this. Was never a fan of his weak game, a center who can't grab a rebound. And worst of all, he never knew when to stop shooting when his shot was off. Some players need to keep shooting when they miss, he isn't one of them players.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:27 pm    Post subject:

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Would have prefered to bring Brook back, but clearly that wasn't the Lakers' strategy.

Small ball has become a dominant strategy in the league. Teams run true bigs off the floor. The only point where it makes sense to commit to a (non-star) true big is in the earlier parts of games. The reason for that is foul trouble risk. There is a lot of contact in the post and you don't want the other team to be able to play a big that gets your smaller lineup in foul trouble early.

As the game goes on, risk of fouling out goes down and the pendulum swings to small ball. These days that happens pretty quickly. If your team strategy is going to be pace, playmaking, switching and spacing, you don't invest much if anything in the true big category. McGee gives you a mobile anchor who can give you 18 mpg, Zubac is a big body that excels with a true PnR ball handler and Wagner appears to be a good spacer. But what this is really saying is that you're committing to playing forwards at the five a significant amount of time. That's going to be interesting in certain matchups.

Starting Centers, Western Conference:
Nurkic, Adams, Gobert, Davis, Towns, Joikc, DeAndre, Gortat, WCS, Marc, Pau, Ayton, Capela, Draymond

Starting Centers, Select Eastern Conference:
East: Embiid, Horford, Jonas, Turner

If we're talking playoffs, Adams, Gobert, Davis and Embiid (East) are the ones we would be hard pressed to match up with (discounting others like Nurkic b/c I think we beat them anyway). Perhaps they expect there to be Centers on the buyout market.

If our strategy will be to be a small ball fast breaking team, we still have to outrebound the other team to get our break going. If Kuzma or Lebron is playing at the 5 sometimes I wonder if we'll have enough rebounding to be a real good team.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject:

Didn't really like him last season. He's better than what we have on the roster currently at Center but he was lackluster af for us. Terrible rebounder, poor shot selection, and 0 rim protection. He won't be the difference between winning it all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject:

kawhileonard wrote:
Thon Maker was really a bad pick for them.


But his kung fu is strong.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject:

Why are we loosing legit players like Randle & Lopez ☹️
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:41 pm    Post subject:

I think Wagner is the small ball 5 for this team.

I think we have 3 centers that will all get playing time based on matchup and situations. Idk I could be wrong but magic basically told us at the press conference that he expects his draft picks to play.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:44 pm    Post subject:

KAJtheGOAT wrote:
Why are we loosing legit players like Randle & Lopez ☹️


I'm reserving judgment on roster decisions until they're really done making moves around training camp time - but those players really helped LA take that leap this year that made them an attractive option.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject:

matrixskillz wrote:
55 wrote:
I wont be losing sleep over this. Was never a fan of his weak game, a center who can't grab a rebound. And worst of all, he never knew when to stop shooting when his shot was off. Some players need to keep shooting when they miss, he isn't one of them players.
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