Would you guys buy-out Zu and split the 4.84M for Alex Len and Rodney Hood? So basically 2M for each on a 1 year deal
No Rodney Hood.
I think he will have a good year playing with elite passers, with the Cavs he was ISOing cause the Cavs had no identity, I would welcome Hood on the Lakers for sure, when he played in the Finals he looked good.
I would too. But at $2M he'd be a nice young piece for the Cavs to keep.
You think he will go back especially with the fall out between him and the Cavs?
For sports, do you think a lineup bellow can be effective:
Rondo
Ball
Ingram
Kuz
Lebron
why take a shooter off the court to play Rondo and Ball together? KCP or Hart at SG is much better.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense to start both of our true PGs together. One of them is going to come off the bench. KCP or Hart should be starting at the 2.
Should have read spurts. Not advocating starting both. Sorry
I guess they can experiment with anything....but with KCP and Hart being much better shooters and needing minutes, do not see it used very often or regularly.
The Pelicans had a lot of success with starting both Rondo and Jru, 2 PGs that don't really shoot the 3 well. I think having ball handlers and playmakers on the floor together is underrated. _________________ Previously LBJ23
Would you guys buy-out Zu and split the 4.84M for Alex Len and Rodney Hood? So basically 2M for each on a 1 year deal
No Rodney Hood.
I think he will have a good year playing with elite passers, with the Cavs he was ISOing cause the Cavs had no identity, I would welcome Hood on the Lakers for sure, when he played in the Finals he looked good.
I would too. But at $2M he'd be a nice young piece for the Cavs to keep.
You think he will go back especially with the fall out between him and the Cavs?
He won't have a choice unless they let his rights go _________________ Previously LBJ23
What if magic plans on using lebron in that Julius Randle role. Lebron as the small ball 5 would change the game. I think you are forced to go small and match up with him.
Lebron
Kuzma
Ingram
KCP
Lonzo
Lebron + Lonzo PnR
Lebron + Kuzma PnR
Lebron running the PnR from the 5
We could force teams to play our way if lebron is ok with it.
Teams with players like embiid would be pissed. You can’t hide embiid anywhere defensively against that lineup. No matter what he’s out of the paint
A lot of his defensive highlights are in the paint
No way they start games with that lineup against teams that start a C with traditional size. They'd practically be begging him to wear himself out and get injured.
Not to begin games, no, but definitely to end most games.
That is CLEARLY the best lineup (with Rondo and Hart able to supplant Ball and Pope), and it is CLEARLY the lineup the front office has eyed as the game changing lineup like the OP has stated.
The idea is completely reasonable, and it really shouldn’t be fought like it’s being fought. I suppose people really do have to see it to believe before they get on board. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter.
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject:
LBJ23 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
RCS926 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
For sports, do you think a lineup bellow can be effective:
Rondo
Ball
Ingram
Kuz
Lebron
why take a shooter off the court to play Rondo and Ball together? KCP or Hart at SG is much better.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense to start both of our true PGs together. One of them is going to come off the bench. KCP or Hart should be starting at the 2.
Should have read spurts. Not advocating starting both. Sorry
I guess they can experiment with anything....but with KCP and Hart being much better shooters and needing minutes, do not see it used very often or regularly.
The Pelicans had a lot of success with starting both Rondo and Jru, 2 PGs that don't really shoot the 3 well. I think having ball handlers and playmakers on the floor together is underrated.
it worked until GSW figured out they did not even have to defend Rondo....and Jrue is not a great shooter, but he is a scoring combo guard.
Last I read, he was going to try.
But he would need to be cleared by a medical panel?
He's on blood thinners to help prevent blood clots. But thinners mean it's harder to stop bleeding if there's a cut, which can happen easily enough on the court. I can't find the article yet, but it mentioned newer advances in medicine may help with this conundrum. Either way, he still needs to get approval from the panel.
Last I read, he was going to try.
But he would need to be cleared by a medical panel?
He's on blood thinners to help prevent blood clots. But thinners mean it's harder to stop bleeding if there's a cut, which can happen easily enough on the court. I can't find the article yet, but it mentioned newer advances in medicine may help with this conundrum. Either way, he still needs to get approval from the panel.
I wouldn't be comfortable with this guy on the court.
If he's on the blood thinners, he can bleed out from a deep cut.
If he's not, he can have a heart attack or a stroke because of blood clogs. There's no way they clear him. _________________ www.lakersbrasil.com
Fan site made by me and others, dedicated to posting Laker news and articles in portuguese.
I like that closing lineup a lot but we all know some of the lineups Luke sent out there last year - hard to be certain that he will play the lineup that is the most deadly. _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way
Pretty interesting that the Lakers aren’t mentioned even though Melo wants to play with LeBron, either way I would be happy if he goes to Houston and messes up the Rockets chemistry.
Last I read, he was going to try.
But he would need to be cleared by a medical panel?
He's on blood thinners to help prevent blood clots. But thinners mean it's harder to stop bleeding if there's a cut, which can happen easily enough on the court. I can't find the article yet, but it mentioned newer advances in medicine may help with this conundrum. Either way, he still needs to get approval from the panel.
I wouldn't be comfortable with this guy on the court.
If he's on the blood thinners, he can bleed out from a deep cut.
If he's not, he can have a heart attack or a stroke because of blood clogs. There's no way they clear him.
Yea. His skills would be nice to have on the team. But that risk seems too high.
If HOU signs Melo they will have gotten ridiculously worse defensively this offseason _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way
Pretty interesting that the Lakers aren’t mentioned even though Melo wants to play with LeBron, either way I would be happy if he goes to Houston and messes up the Rockets chemistry.
Rockets losing Ariza/Moute + adding Melo would be great for our WCF chances.
And I don't even dislike Melo, I just think he's a terrible fit for that team and has a very negative history with MDA. Not gonna work. _________________ www.lakersbrasil.com
Fan site made by me and others, dedicated to posting Laker news and articles in portuguese.
How about Deng and Zu for Whiteside? Deng had his last good year in Miami and Whiteside is probably worth the $7mm difference between his and Deng's salary for this year (plus the cost of losing Zu). Also, Whiteside will probably be a more sought after contract next summer than Deng. He will still cost a bit more but at least he can be a productive role player, but Deng not so much.
Whiteside is terrible. If we are spending cap space (other than 1 year rentals) on non-max players, we are doing it wrong. They didn't shed draft picks and former players to sign Whiteside dude.
It's not "signing" Whiteseide. It's leveraging Deng's 18 million for this year to get Whiteside for about 25 million. The difference in salaries might be worth the difference in production. Or it might not. That's why I'm proposing it as a suggestion. Also, if Whiteside does indeed have a good year then unloading him next summer may be more practical than unloading Deng next summer.
You want to get rid of Deng's contract not essentially make it longer for a 2 year player.
Haven't you been paying attention to free agency this year? Non-stars are not commanding those kind of contracts anymore. That would be an incredibly terrible decision to trade Deng for Whiteside. The difference between salaries is NOT worth the difference in production.
Why do you want to make signing a potential free agent next year HARDER?
Is it absolutely easier to unload Deng's $18.8mm rather than Whiteside's $27mm??
If you're looking to take zero payroll back, there will be significantly less teams with cap space willing to do so. Yes.
I think I agree. Just wanted to get opinions on the idea.
For sports, do you think a lineup bellow can be effective:
Rondo
Ball
Ingram
Kuz
Lebron
why take a shooter off the court to play Rondo and Ball together? KCP or Hart at SG is much better.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense to start both of our true PGs together. One of them is going to come off the bench. KCP or Hart should be starting at the 2.
Should have read spurts. Not advocating starting both. Sorry
I guess they can experiment with anything....but with KCP and Hart being much better shooters and needing minutes, do not see it used very often or regularly.
The Pelicans had a lot of success with starting both Rondo and Jru, 2 PGs that don't really shoot the 3 well. I think having ball handlers and playmakers on the floor together is underrated.
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:19 pm Post subject:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
adkindo wrote:
OKC allowing Melo to meet with Houston and Miami.
Pretty interesting that the Lakers aren’t mentioned even though Melo wants to play with LeBron, either way I would be happy if he goes to Houston and messes up the Rockets chemistry.
he probably contacted Lebron and got "new phone, who dis"
I like that closing lineup a lot but we all know some of the lineups Luke sent out there last year - hard to be certain that he will play the lineup that is the most deadly.
If he can’t ascertain that the Ingram/Kuzma/James frontcourt gives the team the best chance to win most nights, his days will be numbered ...
But it’s a moot point because he already knows. This is why the front office didn’t give him a “legitimate” center like Lopez. They didn’t even want to tempt the coaches to play the guy who is a veteran and former all-star. They wanted the cards to be stacked toward a Kuzma/Ingram/James frontcourt finishing lineup, and they’ve done just that. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter.
Pretty interesting that the Lakers aren’t mentioned even though Melo wants to play with LeBron, either way I would be happy if he goes to Houston and messes up the Rockets chemistry.
Rockets losing Ariza/Moute + adding Melo would be great for our WCF chances.
And I don't even dislike Melo, I just think he's a terrible fit for that team and has a very negative history with MDA. Not gonna work.
Rockets losing Ariza+Mbah Moute + the chances of losing Capela or having a disgruntled Capela on the team next year while only adding a washed up chucker is music to my ears, Morey is finally showing that he can’t make good things happen when it’s needed.
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