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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject:

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It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious


Yeah that doesn't apply to professional athletes. Weird to say the least.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:39 pm    Post subject:

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Rob Pelinka says Lonzo Ball will be 100% ready for training camp, but his management team is evaluating options for treating his knee.

https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/1017113084861616128


Lakers FO says he'll be ready, his camp says otherwise. I feel like i've seen this movie before...


Which movie? The Kawhi Movie? Or the Lavar Ball Tries To Heal Someone By Himself Movie? Either way I don't have a good feeling about this.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:40 pm    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
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Rob Pelinka says Lonzo Ball will be 100% ready for training camp, but his management team is evaluating options for treating his knee.

https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/1017113084861616128


Lakers FO says he'll be ready, his camp says otherwise. I feel like i've seen this movie before...


Which movie? The Kawhi Movie? Or the Lavar Ball Tries To Heal Someone By Himself Movie? Either way I don't have a good feeling about this.



are we talking about the PG13 version or the unedited version?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject:

Hence the rondo signing. There shouldn’t be any pressure for Zo to come back before hes nOt ready
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:26 pm    Post subject:

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Hence the rondo signing. There shouldn’t be any pressure for Zo to come back before hes nOt ready


Then damn we should have drafted De'Anthony Melton and we would have Zo covered for the whole season....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject:

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Hence the rondo signing. There shouldn’t be any pressure for Zo to come back before hes nOt ready


Then damn we should have drafted De'Anthony Melton and we would have Zo covered for the whole season....


Melton had 2 1/2 good games in summer league Vegas so far.
One dud.
Interested to see how he continues to show out.
I understand people wanting him over Bonga, but I think it's a wait and see before we think Melton can handle the Lakers starting spot for the year.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

what kinda side ways talk is this?

He might need surgery...

He will be healthy for the season opener...

Those two statements contradict each other
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject:

With all the players having issues with their team over injuries just let them decide when they want to come back to they cant blame anyone
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:41 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo is made of paper. Hope he gets better in a few years like Curry did.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:22 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious

There's medical privacy rights that people have that are protected by a law with the acronym HIPPA. The season is over and now only Lonzo has the authority to release his medical information. It was recently discussed by Mason & Ireland on ESPN. His right to privacy in the off season is protected by those laws. The same law was violated by Philadelphia's GM when he anonymously revealed on Twitter that Jahlil Okafor failed a physical.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject:

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what kinda side ways talk is this?

He might need surgery...

He will be healthy for the season opener...

Those two statements contradict each other


If he got the surgery now he would have about 13 weeks until the opener.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject:

lakersboy wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious

There's medical rights that people have that are protected by a law with the acronym HIPPA. The season is over and now only Lonzo jas the authority to release his medical information. What he does in the off season is protected by those laws.


I understand HIPPA but I have never seen this happen in pro sports. When a player is injured even in the offseason the team always releases what the injury is and a treatment plan/recovery timetable.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject:

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It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious

There's medical rights that people have that are protected by a law with the acronym HIPPA. The season is over and now only Lonzo jas the authority to release his medical information. What he does in the off season is protected by those laws.


I understand HIPPA but I have never seen this happen in pro sports. When a player is injured even in the offseason the team always releases what the injury is and a treatment plan/recovery timetable.
Lakers announcer John Ireland recently discussed that exact point on his show and said the Lakers can't talk about. That was before Pelinka mentioned it recently.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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what kinda side ways talk is this?

He might need surgery...

He will be healthy for the season opener...

Those two statements contradict each other

No they don't. It just means that the recovery time isn't long in either scenario.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:43 pm    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
Hence the rondo signing. There shouldn’t be any pressure for Zo to come back before hes nOt ready

The team would've needed to sign another guard anyways because Lonzo was the only one under contract.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:44 pm    Post subject:

lakersboy wrote:
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It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious

There's medical rights that people have that are protected by a law with the acronym HIPPA. The season is over and now only Lonzo jas the authority to release his medical information. What he does in the off season is protected by those laws.


I understand HIPPA but I have never seen this happen in pro sports. When a player is injured even in the offseason the team always releases what the injury is and a treatment plan/recovery timetable.
Lakers announcer John Ireland recently discussed that exact point on his show and said the Lakers can't talk about. That was before Pelinka mentioned it recently.


Thought it was the norm but became a thing because Momo said the Lakers can't talk about it only if Lonzo's camp says the Lakers aren't allowed to talk about it. And she's suggesting that Lonzo's camp isn't dissuading the Lakers from talking about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:50 am    Post subject:

Lonzo better get his (bleep) together soon or he will be gone. He's staring to remind me of Russell. Injury prone and not 100 percent into basketball. Rondo is for sure going to take his starting spot. He doesn't seem that into basketball. To much other stuff going on.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:52 am    Post subject:

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Lonzo better get his (bleep) together soon or he will be gone. He's staring to remind me of Russell. Injury prone and not 100 percent into basketball. Rondo is for sure going to take his starting spot. He doesn't seem that into basketball. To much other stuff going on.


This narrative that he's not 100% into basketball is mind boggling.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:06 am    Post subject:

No need for consternation if you trust what Rob said. He said that no matter what procedure is decided upon Zo will be ready for training camp. If he doesn't make the start of training camp then we can P & M.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:46 am    Post subject:

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No need for consternation if you trust what Rob said. He said that no matter what procedure is decided upon Zo will be ready for training camp. If he doesn't make the start of training camp then we can P & M.


Camp is in Octobe? r... 2 and half months?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:00 am    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
gaogi wrote:
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Rob Pelinka says Lonzo Ball will be 100% ready for training camp, but his management team is evaluating options for treating his knee.

https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/1017113084861616128


Lakers FO says he'll be ready, his camp says otherwise. I feel like i've seen this movie before...


Which movie? The Kawhi Movie? Or the Lavar Ball Tries To Heal Someone By Himself Movie? Either way I don't have a good feeling about this.


I don't think its a Kawhi situation. In fact I think it's the opposite. They're probably harping on the injury to ensure that Lonzo isn't traded. Lavar must be terrified to death that Lonzo is the center piece for a Kawhi trade. The more serious they make Lonzo's injury to be, the less likely the Spurs or some other team in a 3 team trade would want him.

Lonzo is nowhere established enough to pull a Kawhi. There's still serious question marks over his game. Pulling a Kawhi would be career suicide for Lonzo, although Lavar did single handedly ruin any prospect of Liangelo having a nba career by pulling the latter out of UCLA, so what do I know?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:32 am    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
lakersboy wrote:
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It makes no sense that Pelinka said the team can't talk about his knee injury. Why the hell not? Sounds very suspicious

There's medical rights that people have that are protected by a law with the acronym HIPPA. The season is over and now only Lonzo jas the authority to release his medical information. What he does in the off season is protected by those laws.


I understand HIPPA but I have never seen this happen in pro sports. When a player is injured even in the offseason the team always releases what the injury is and a treatment plan/recovery timetable.


There was an issue about Jason Pierre Paul a few years back. ESPN managed to get a copy of his medical records from the hospital where his finger was amputated. However, the HIPAA issue was limited to the actual medical records. I don't know why HIPAA would restrict Pelinka from talking about the knee injury.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject:

It basically means that they are deciding whether or not he should have surgery on it or not. But that even if he has surgery on it the recovery time won't be significant and he'll be 100% by training camp regardless.

What'a the issue with that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:37 am    Post subject:

Zo had the procedure for the slightly torn meniscus a while back and he has been cleared for basketball for a few weeks now folks...Rob is going out of his way to direct reporters back to LBJs camp and Zos camp and avoid anything that could compromise their faith in our ability to maintain their privacy. NBA teams are not required to disclose injuries during the offseason...we haven't the last 2 summers and are continuing that policy...has nothing to do with HIPPA...just a classic media side step.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/lakers-lonzo-ball-injury-update-return-prp-injection-shot-knee-stats-nba-news/eqczbvphpq4t1eelemn0igno5
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:41 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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Lonzo better get his (bleep) together soon or he will be gone. He's staring to remind me of Russell. Injury prone and not 100 percent into basketball. Rondo is for sure going to take his starting spot. He doesn't seem that into basketball. To much other stuff going on.


This narrative that he's not 100% into basketball is mind boggling.


I think some folks got abused by the Jimmy years...cant believe that we are a playoff lock and one of the core4 taking a step up from contending in only 17 months.

Laker Basketball is back...feels like soft summer rain after a long drought.
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