Ranking our draft picks of the 'young core'
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject:

LakersRGolden wrote:
Taking draft position into account:
---- Exceeds draft position
1) Kuzma
2) Hart
3) Nance
4) Randle
5) JC
---- Meets draft position
6) BI
7) Zu
8) Bryant
---- Below draft position at the moment
9) Ball - Needs some time, showing injury concerns
10) Dlo due to injuries. Meets when healthy
---- WTH?
11) Brown


Lonzo is below his draft station by... one position? I totally get Mitchell and Tatum being ahead of him in a do-over, but can't see anyone else. Markkanen?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ranking our draft picks of the 'young core'

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cal1piggy wrote:
Here is my list of our best picks based on performance and draft position. This is not meant to be a list of who is the best player currently.

1. kuz
2. bi (mitch)
3. hart
4. ball
5. svi
6. randle (mitch)
7. zu (mitch)
8. dlo (mitch)

too hard to rate:
1. bonga
2. tbryant



I think it's way too early to start ranking these guys.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
cal1piggy wrote:
kikanga wrote:
LG was due for a summer league overreaction thread.
Haven't seen enough of Svi to rate him accurately.
And I'm very impressed with Hart. But I have to see if his steps forward over this offseason carry into the regular season.


take a look at gt's video: https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/17/17574324/laker-film-room-svi-mykhailiuk-lakers-shooting-stats-video-analysis


This is a good introduction for those who didn't watch all of Summer League.
Clever player, deceptively athletic, and boy can he shoot...


I'm impressed with what I've seen in SL. But I have to see SVI against NBA regular season rotations. Summer league is mostly college age kids. I expect multi-year college players to dominate in those circumstances.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
cal1piggy wrote:
kikanga wrote:
LG was due for a summer league overreaction thread.
Haven't seen enough of Svi to rate him accurately.
And I'm very impressed with Hart. But I have to see if his steps forward over this offseason carry into the regular season.


take a look at gt's video: https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/7/17/17574324/laker-film-room-svi-mykhailiuk-lakers-shooting-stats-video-analysis


This is a good introduction for those who didn't watch all of Summer League.
Clever player, deceptively athletic, and boy can he shoot...


I'm impressed with what I've seen in SL. But I have to see SVI against NBA regular season rotations. Summer league is mostly college age kids. I expect multi-year college players to dominate in those circumstances.


9 of the players in the blazers sl team has nba experience.
i think a large # of former 1st round picks though a couple never panned out.
we are legit dogs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:01 pm    Post subject:

I'm trying to figure out why some of these people are even on this list. Clearly guys like DLO, JC, Nance, Julius weren't part of the "young core". That's why they're gone. Not to mention the criteria of this thread is loopy AF.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject:

Have to put Kuz and Hart at the top of the list. I don't know enough about Svi yet. Getting so much value that late is really impressive.

BI and Lonzo might turn out to fit their #2s, but can't really say yet. I think they will, but need a couple more years to tell.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject:

BI
Ball
Kuz
Randle
DLo
Hart
Larry Nance
Svi
Vagner
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:37 pm    Post subject:

This year's impact

BI
Zo
Kuz
Julie
Dlo
JC
Zubac
Larry
Hart
Mo
Bryant
Svi
Brown
Bonga
Kelly
Sacre

Taking minutes into consideration.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject:

Based on position drafted and other players available, DLO would be dead last.

Too early to say for Lonzo, not looking good right now with the injuries though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:38 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
How can you rank Svi over Randle when he has yet to play in the NBA?


http://www.nba.com/players/svi/mykhailiuk/1629004

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Julius-Randle/Summary/24301

Even if you don't account for the #7 vs. #47 draft placement... Svi's stats are superior for both of Randle's Summer League seasons already.


your kidding, right?


Randle shot 40% in two seasons of Summer League and 12 PPG... and 4 RPG.
Svi's shooting 42% from three... had a 31 point break out game... averaging 18 points a game and he's only a rookie.

Agree it's premature... but the guy asked... so I'm answering.


So you're weighing a summer league season on par with a regular NBA season???
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:39 pm    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
Based on position drafted and other players available, DLO would be dead last.

Too early to say for Lonzo, not looking good right now with the injuries though.


still have some hope for lonzo.
dlo does not look good...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject:

LakersRGolden wrote:
Taking draft position into account:
---- Exceeds draft position
1) Kuzma
2) Hart
3) Nance
4) Randle
5) JC
---- Meets draft position
6) BI
7) Zu
8) Bryant
---- Below draft position at the moment
9) Ball - Needs some time, showing injury concerns
10) Dlo due to injuries. Meets when healthy
---- WTH?
11) Brown


OK, the way you present it, I can get my head around this.

At-The-Moment and Subject to Change...

Exceeds Draft Position:
Kuzma
Hart
Svi
Clarkson

Meets Draft Position:
Randle
BI
Ball
Nance
Zubac
Mo

Below Draft Position:
Russell
Bryant
Bonga
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject:

This thread is kinda stunted.. what are we basing this on.. summer league stats.. foreal lol?

Current ranking:

#1 Kuzma
#2 Ingram
#3 Lonzo
#4 Randle
#5 DLO
#6 Hart
#7 Nance
#8 Clarkson
#9 Svi
#10 Wagner

peak ranking (highest ceiling)
#1 Ingram
#2 Ball
#3 Kuzma
#4 DLO
#5 Svi
#6 Hart
#7 Randle
#8 Nance
#9 Wagner
#10 Clarkson
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject:

forzaCOREA wrote:
This thread is kinda stunted.. what are we basing this on.. summer league stats.. foreal lol?

Current ranking:

#1 Kuzma
#2 Ingram
#3 Lonzo
#4 Randle
#5 DLO
#6 Hart
#7 Nance
#8 Clarkson
#9 Svi
#10 Wagner

peak ranking (highest ceiling)
#1 Ingram
#2 Ball
#3 Kuzma
#4 DLO
#5 Svi
#6 Hart
#7 Randle
#8 Nance
#9 Wagner
#10 Clarkson


Kuzma wasn't a better player then Ingram last season, stop being ridiculous. Only thing he did "better" then Ingram was score but he had the same amount of points while taking MORE shots then BI. Ingram was better at everything else while being two years younger.

Ingram> Kuzma. Period.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject:

In terms of current best NBA players and going into next year

1) Ball
2) Ingram
3) Kuzma
4) DLO
5) Randle
6) Hart
7) Nance
8) Wagner
9) Clarkson
10) Svi
11) Bryant
12) Zubac
13) Bonga
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