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yinoma2001
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| kikanga wrote: | I've said it before. But I'll say it again.
The argument for Jimmy vs Klay should really come down to what our young guys do this year.
If between Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart nobody takes the jump to allstar-level playmaker. Then we should DEFINITELY get Jimmy. He's shown time and time again he can lead a team to the playoffs. Heck he was up 3-2 against Lebron in the conference finals when he was on the bulls with Pau. But then Pau went down (injury).
But if our young guys take a huge leap as playmakers. Klay makes more sense. Klay can make almost any offensive system more efficient. He hasn't shown he can carry a team like Jimmy. Because in GS he hasn't had to take on that burden. |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer.
Jimmy/Klay is subject to debate, though I think in a vacuum Jimmy >> Klay. I agree with your premise about fit if it came down to these two as FAs.
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | I'll take Ingram over Kat |
This is crazy talk |
I will take Ingram over KAT as well. |
Same, not because I’m a Laker homer, BI has already shown he can play D, Town’s red flag has been that he has regressed significantly on D since his rookie season.. |
KAT is already an all-star. If you guys want to argue BI will be better in 5 years or something, have at it. But taking BI over KAT is crazy. |
He is an all star but I like Impact players more, it doesn’t look like the Wolves are going anywhere this year either while the Lakers will. |
Because of Lebron. The Lakers are going somewhere this year because of Lebron. |
It's the D. KAT is terrible at it. |
I think this is a valid point, but it's not like BI is some lockdown defender in comparison. Again, only on a Lakers forum is this even an argument. KAT is better and we'd be a better team with KAT. I'm out! |
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kikanga
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...?  |
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| Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
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Batguano
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
Way to cherry-pick.
Last time KD was on the Thunder they were up 3-1 on the greatest regular season team of all time until KD decided to throw the series because it would ruin his plan of jumping ship to them (which had already been set in motion)
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
Way to cherry-pick |
How is that cherry picking? |
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
Way to cherry-pick.
Last time KD was on the Thunder they were up 3-1 on the greatest regular season team of all time until KD decided to throw the series because it would ruin his plan of jumping ship to them (which had already been set in motion) |
Come on man. You’re calling me out for cherry picking while making a claim that KD threw a WCF alrighty |
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PlantedTanks
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
Way to cherry-pick.
Last time KD was on the Thunder they were up 3-1 on the greatest regular season team of all time until KD decided to throw the series because it would ruin his plan of jumping ship to them (which had already been set in motion) |
This is totally false. He threw the series to spite RW. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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Kawhi because he's a few years younger. KD because he weakens the Lakers main competition for a title.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
KL. Age. LA ties (please just give me one!!!!)
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Kawhi because he's a few years younger. KD because he weakens the Lakers main competition for a title. |
Good point on KD. In this respect it would exponentially increase the odds for the Lakers to win the title.
That alone besides his immense talent should favor getting KD. |
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Batguano
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
Way to cherry-pick.
Last time KD was on the Thunder they were up 3-1 on the greatest regular season team of all time until KD decided to throw the series because it would ruin his plan of jumping ship to them (which had already been set in motion) |
This is totally false. He threw the series to spite RW. |
Throwing a series is throwing a series... Who cares about the motivation behind it? |
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Batguano
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer. |
Who do you prefer between the 2 if Kawhi returns to his pre-injury level? |
Easily KD. I believe he is the only one besides Lebron who can consistently impact every game over a whole season and put his team in a position to win.
He puts pressure on the other team to stop him which disrupts their defense.
Lastly his defense is underrated. |
Maybe but his impact on winning is overrated. The Warriors were around 500 with him and without Curry last year. Kawhi everytime. |
Didn't Kawhi's team make the playoffs WITHOUT him last season...? |
Yes they did... and got bounced outta the first round. Last time he was on the court for a significant amount of time for them they were beating the Warriors by 20 in game 1 of the WCF. |
Way to cherry-pick.
Last time KD was on the Thunder they were up 3-1 on the greatest regular season team of all time until KD decided to throw the series because it would ruin his plan of jumping ship to them (which had already been set in motion) |
Come on man. You’re calling me out for cherry picking while making a claim that KD threw a WCF alrighty |
I "cherry picked" an ENTIRE playoff series. You cherry-picked the first half of a single game... |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Kd threw the series? Lol |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Kawhi because he's a few years younger. KD because he weakens the Lakers main competition for a title. |
I think KD is leaving even if it is not to the Lakers....but that is just from squinting very hard attempting to read the tea leaves. |
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| LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/bustedcoverage/status/1042216612798111744?s=21
Pop looks like he may be getting ready to leave San Antonio at some point. |
We should hire Pop for a FO position with the Lakers to spite San Antonio  |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | | Kd threw the series? Lol |
He was being recruited by Draymond from the moment the Warriors lost the 2016 Finals. You don't think that's going to have some kind of mental/psychological effect on him and how he approached that series? |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | I've said it before. But I'll say it again.
The argument for Jimmy vs Klay should really come down to what our young guys do this year.
If between Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart nobody takes the jump to allstar-level playmaker. Then we should DEFINITELY get Jimmy. He's shown time and time again he can lead a team to the playoffs. Heck he was up 3-2 against Lebron in the conference finals when he was on the bulls with Pau. But then Pau went down (injury).
But if our young guys take a huge leap as playmakers. Klay makes more sense. Klay can make almost any offensive system more efficient. He hasn't shown he can carry a team like Jimmy. Because in GS he hasn't had to take on that burden. |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer.
Jimmy/Klay is subject to debate, though I think in a vacuum Jimmy >> Klay. I agree with your premise about fit if it came down to these two as FAs. |
It would come down to which one, if either, would want to come here. My money would be on it not being Klay.
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| adkindo wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Kawhi because he's a few years younger. KD because he weakens the Lakers main competition for a title. |
I think KD is leaving even if it is not to the Lakers....but that is just from squinting very hard attempting to read the tea leaves. |
I’m with you. He’s leaving imo...just not sure it’s Lakers.
If I was 100% sure Lebron was gone, I’m 98% on KD. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | I've said it before. But I'll say it again.
The argument for Jimmy vs Klay should really come down to what our young guys do this year.
If between Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart nobody takes the jump to allstar-level playmaker. Then we should DEFINITELY get Jimmy. He's shown time and time again he can lead a team to the playoffs. Heck he was up 3-2 against Lebron in the conference finals when he was on the bulls with Pau. But then Pau went down (injury).
But if our young guys take a huge leap as playmakers. Klay makes more sense. Klay can make almost any offensive system more efficient. He hasn't shown he can carry a team like Jimmy. Because in GS he hasn't had to take on that burden. |
If KD/KL want to join though that's a no brainer.
Jimmy/Klay is subject to debate, though I think in a vacuum Jimmy >> Klay. I agree with your premise about fit if it came down to these two as FAs. |
It would come down to which one, if either, would want to come here. My money would be on it not being Klay. |
U r wrong 99.99% of the time so that's good |
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| I'll take any of those 3 guys: Klay, Butler, or Kawhi. If he's back to his old self I slightly prefer Kawhi but would be more than happy with any of them. |
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