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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | The Shaq that played for Orlando probably could.
The Lakers version? He'd be winded after the first 4 minutes. |
We would have recurring nightmares seeing Shaq switched onto Steph, Harden, etc., though it would be interesting to see his offensive prowess (though trading 2s for 3s isn't winning basketball in 2018). |
Won't be really trading 2s for 3s evenly.
ORL Shaq shot 60% from the field in the early 90's when bigs were real bigs, wouldn't be shocked if he shot as high as 65% - 70% in this era.
Right now GSW era of Steph, Klay, Durant together average 41% from 3s.
So for the sake of this example, Shaq would be averaging at least 1.300 points per shot attempt on 2s while the big three of GSW would only be averaging 1.230 points per 3s attempted. |
He'd almost certainly be constantly be in foul trouble with the way things are officiated now. His bread and butter post move where he leads with his elbow would be called an offensive foul today (I personally don't think it is...post players have ALWAYS done this). Even when we had Dwight that year...watching him for the full season and it felt like he was hit with that call...every, single, time. _________________ KOBE |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | The Shaq that played for Orlando probably could.
The Lakers version? He'd be winded after the first 4 minutes. |
We would have recurring nightmares seeing Shaq switched onto Steph, Harden, etc., though it would be interesting to see his offensive prowess (though trading 2s for 3s isn't winning basketball in 2018). |
Won't be really trading 2s for 3s evenly.
ORL Shaq shot 60% from the field in the early 90's when bigs were real bigs, wouldn't be shocked if he shot as high as 65% - 70% in this era.
Right now GSW era of Steph, Klay, Durant together average 41% from 3s.
So for the sake of this example, Shaq would be averaging at least 1.300 points per shot attempt on 2s while the big three of GSW would only be averaging 1.230 points per 3s attempted. |
He'd almost certainly be constantly be in foul trouble with the way things are officiated now. His bread and butter post move where he leads with his elbow would be called an offensive foul today (I personally don't think it is...post players have ALWAYS done this). Even when we had Dwight that year...watching him for the full season and it felt like he was hit with that call...every, single, time. |
the nba is not consistent (surprise) with that call. we might see how they call it this year if its true that lbj plays post. he is going to push and elbow like a mofo. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: |
He'd almost certainly be constantly be in foul trouble with the way things are officiated now. His bread and butter post move where he leads with his elbow would be called an offensive foul today |
If the refs started calling that a foul, Shaq would simply adjust and do something else. The great ones like Shaq could succeed in any era, under any rules. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I don't agree...
he'd average around 40 though. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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mde24 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | jonnybravo wrote: |
He'd almost certainly be constantly be in foul trouble with the way things are officiated now. His bread and butter post move where he leads with his elbow would be called an offensive foul today |
If the refs started calling that a foul, Shaq would simply adjust and do something else. The great ones like Shaq could succeed in any era, under any rules. |
Shaq was a great BIG MAN with Great Foot work, if anything these light weight, no named centers would go up for a ride and a foul. Hack a Shaq would happen everytime he got the ball in the post. It would slow the game down, so the Ref's would have to make a decision, Call the foul on the smaller defender or no call, or give the Superstar the call. We all know the Superstar gets the call. No matter what era, the Superstar Always get the call. _________________ "If you see me in a fight with a bear, prey for the bear". Ive always loved that quote. Thats "mamba mentality" we don't quit, we don't cower, we don't run. We endure and conquer. |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:58 am Post subject: |
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lakersboy wrote: |
I remember Shaq making little effort to defend pick and rolls in his latter Lakers years, so all that has to be taken into consideration when you're claiming what you could do now. |
Didn’t Utah take him to school in the 97 and 98 playoffs? I remember Mike Bibby saying the 2002 Kings watched video of the 98 conference finals because his defensive weaknesses were exploited by the Jazz. |
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kobeandgary Star Player
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:34 am Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | The Shaq that played for Orlando probably could.
The Lakers version? He'd be winded after the first 4 minutes. |
We would have recurring nightmares seeing Shaq switched onto Steph, Harden, etc., though it would be interesting to see his offensive prowess (though trading 2s for 3s isn't winning basketball in 2018). |
Won't be really trading 2s for 3s evenly.
ORL Shaq shot 60% from the field in the early 90's when bigs were real bigs, wouldn't be shocked if he shot as high as 65% - 70% in this era.
Right now GSW era of Steph, Klay, Durant together average 41% from 3s.
So for the sake of this example, Shaq would be averaging at least 1.300 points per shot attempt on 2s while the big three of GSW would only be averaging 1.230 points per 3s attempted. |
He'd almost certainly be constantly be in foul trouble with the way things are officiated now. His bread and butter post move where he leads with his elbow would be called an offensive foul today (I personally don't think it is...post players have ALWAYS done this). Even when we had Dwight that year...watching him for the full season and it felt like he was hit with that call...every, single, time. |
I've seen Cousins get away with it a million times. |
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BadGuy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Shaq would also give up 50 since he has 0 chance of playing defense in this era. Not to mention his free throw issues. |
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noahp45 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: |
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If shaq was motivated and put in work at the gym. He could have avg 60 his whole career. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: |
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20 rebounds a game would be a more impressive boast. Sadly, that will always be an afterthought with Shaq. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:55 am Post subject: |
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"Shaq would have to get on the perimeter to defend the big men"
And Shaq would force them to foul him 3 times in the 1st Quarter. So.. there's that. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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