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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: BPM |
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Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.
OBM
Lebron_____5.6
Rondo_____2.2
Lance______1.4
Lonzo _____1.3
Mcgee_____1.2
Hart_______.6
Zubac______.6
Kuzma_____0
Williams____-.4
Pope______-2.9
Ingram____-5.1
Svi_______-5.1
DBM
Mcgee____3.9
Lebron___0.7
Hart_____-0.1
Zubac____0.4
Williams__-0.6
Rondo___-0.9
Lance____-1.1
Lonzo____-1.2
Svi_____-2.0
Pope____-2.2
Ingram__-2.2
Kuzma___-3.1
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:54 am Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:57 am Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on. |
Yea I know that. I'm just leading the witness a little |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Lance is playing way over expectations.
Hope it can continue. |
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anpherknee Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on. |
Orrrrrrrr maybe he just STINKS now
didn't thunked bout that one did ye |
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anpherknee Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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also I dont Besvive those low numbers for my Ukrainian son not wonbit |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think even the guys that really like BPM and RPM claim it is mostly noise until a 1/3 of the season has passed and enough data has been collected. |
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | I think even the guys that really like BPM and RPM claim it is mostly noise until a 1/3 of the season has passed and enough data has been collected. |
You need about 20 games of data before the numbers stabilize. As the OP suggested, this is just early returns. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Lance is playing way over expectations.
Hope it can continue. |
Let's just enjoy this 6 game stretch and fondly remember it in two months when we all want to break things as Lance is about to check in. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on. |
You were wrong about Lance, admit it!!! |
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JeezyXVII Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
+ Rondo as the 5th man. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: BPM |
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defense wrote: | Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.
OBM
Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9
DBM
Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4 |
NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi
There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!
Just kidding about BI... I think. |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:03 am Post subject: Re: BPM |
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epak wrote: | defense wrote: | Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.
OBM
Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9
DBM
Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4 |
NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi
There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!
Just kidding about BI... I think. |
Too early to take anything meaningful from these numbers. But I’d be lying if I said Ingram’s consistent poor numbers in analytics like this weren’t concerning. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Just wanted to make sure, I was kidding |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: BPM |
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BigGameHames wrote: | epak wrote: | defense wrote: | Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.
OBM
Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9
DBM
Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4 |
NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi
There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!
Just kidding about BI... I think. |
Too early to take anything meaningful from these numbers. But I’d be lying if I said Ingram’s consistent poor numbers in analytics like this weren’t concerning. |
The messed up part is what I see on the court mirrors his numbers. Too early to panic though. |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:15 am Post subject: Re: BPM |
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defense wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | epak wrote: | defense wrote: | Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.
OBM
Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9
DBM
Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4 |
NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi
There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!
Just kidding about BI... I think. |
Too early to take anything meaningful from these numbers. But I’d be lying if I said Ingram’s consistent poor numbers in analytics like this weren’t concerning. |
The messed up part is what I see on the court mirrors his numbers. Too early to panic though. |
I thought his defense looked better than that but I agree more or less. He’s gotta start fulfilling more of his potential. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Lebron is +8? Holy hell, he's good but not that good. I don't see bpm stats up on ESPN yet. Where did you get these? _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend! |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:38 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | Lebron is +8? Holy hell, he's good but not that good. I don't see bpm stats up on ESPN yet. Where did you get these? |
Basketball-reference has bpm. But the numbers seen off compared to OP's. OP? |
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: |
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There are a number of stats out there. I'm not sure where these numbers come from. You can find Box Plus-Minus in the Advanced table here:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2019.html
Some of the numbers match, but others do not. The OP may be drawing the numbers from some other source. These are not the RPM stats from ESPN -- those usually get released around the middle of November. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | There are a number of stats out there. I'm not sure where these numbers come from. You can find Box Plus-Minus in the Advanced table here:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2019.html
Some of the numbers match, but others do not. The OP may be drawing the numbers from some other source. These are not the RPM stats from ESPN -- those usually get released around the middle of November. |
Cool. Thanks. _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend! |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:41 am Post subject: |
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KCP has to benched completely now that BI is back. Too bad Luke has the worst rotations in NBA history |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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The Juggernaut wrote: | KCP has to benched completely now that BI is back. Too bad Luke has the worst rotations in NBA history |
His lineup was a +7. What did it look like on tv? |
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noahp45 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:17 am Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on. |
You were wrong about Lance, admit it!!! |
Yeah admit it |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: |
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noahp45 wrote: | The Lebrons wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | defense wrote: | Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats |
Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on. |
You were wrong about Lance, admit it!!! |
Yeah admit it |
For the first 7 games admit it
Hopefully he proves us wrong the entire season. |
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