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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject:

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I've seen conflicting opinions on whether that applies to "interim" replacements.


I have also read conflicting opinions.....this is a recent one that suggests he does qualify under the Vacancies Act.

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The Vacancies Act enables the president to name an acting officer, who may serve as such for 210 days, as long as the person named has been working at the agency or department for at least 90 days in a fairly high-ranking position.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject:

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Because Mr. Whitaker has not undergone the process of Senate confirmation, there has been no mechanism for scrutinizing whether he has the character and ability to evenhandedly enforce the law in such a position of grave responsibility. The public is entitled to that assurance, especially since Mr. Whitaker’s only supervisor is President Trump himself, and the president is hopelessly compromised by the Mueller investigation. That is why adherence to the requirements of the Appointments Clause is so important here, and always.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/opinion/trump-attorney-general-sessions-unconstitutional.html

Co-authored by Kellyan Conway's husband.


I've seen conflicting opinions on whether that applies to "interim" replacements.


I don't think it is constitutional for a non-appointed/non-vetted person to make such critical decisions. Otherwise a President could have a parade of interim heads of agencies make decisions based on his or her whim.
Hence the discussion in whether it applies to temporary appointees.


I just find it hilarious that Trump's own staff member's husband is the author of the article. He's hilariously against Trump if you follow his Twitter feed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:09 pm    Post subject:

Mr. Whitaker
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/08/matthew-whitaker-acting-attorney-general-judges-christian

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Democrats have urged Whitaker to recuse himself from the Russia investigation being led by the special counsel Robert Mueller because of public criticisms of Mueller that Whitaker made before joining the justice department.

Whitaker was previously a paid adviser to an invention-promotion company in Florida that was accused by the US government of running a multimillion-dollar scam. Court records show Whitaker sent a threatening email to one of the alleged scam’s victims who tried to complain.


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The Republican candidates were asked what justification they would use to block the confirmation of federal judges nominated by Barack Obama, who was then US president.

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Whitaker said he wanted to know about a judge’s judicial philosophy, along with their views on natural law, natural rights and the US founding documents. But he added: “I don’t think that gets us far enough.”

“Because natural law is often used from the eye of the beholder, if you will,” Whitaker said. “I’d like to see things like their world view. What informs them? How have they lived their life? Are they people of faith? Do they have a biblical view of justice? Which I think is very important.”

The event moderator, conservative blogger Erick Erickson, asked Whitaker whether he required a “Levitical or New Testament” view of justice. Whitaker opted for the New Testament.


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Whitaker went on: “What I know is that as long as they have that worldview, that they’ll be a good judge. And if they have a secular worldview, that ‘this is all we have here on Earth’, then I’m going to be very concerned about how they judge.”
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:13 pm    Post subject:

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I just find it hilarious that Trump's own staff member's husband is the author of the article. He's hilariously against Trump if you follow his Twitter feed.


I've always been stunned that he remains married to such a miserable excuse for a human being.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:16 pm    Post subject:

Then there is this from the act:

Revises provisions regarding the filling of Federal vacancies to authorize the President, if an appointed officer of an executive agency (defined to include the Executive Office of the President and exclude the GAO) dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform office functions . . .

Now one can easily argue Sessions was fired due to the language of his resignation which stated he resigned at the request of the president.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:16 pm    Post subject:

This guy had an extended magazine which is illegal in California BUT the NRA is suing so there is an injunction so it can't be enforced


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:19 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:


I just find it hilarious that Trump's own staff member's husband is the author of the article. He's hilariously against Trump if you follow his Twitter feed.


I've always been stunned that he remains married to such a miserable excuse for a human being.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:45 pm    Post subject:

If you read the Bob Woodward book. There's an excerpt where after Kellyanne meets with Trump as shes walking out she tells one of the other staffers "I need to take a shower". She 100% finds Trump disgusting but I'm not giving her an ounce of sympathy. Shes basically as trump would say it "doing anything for a buck".
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject:

Alabama Amendment 1
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Display Ten Commandments Publicly
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:47 pm    Post subject:

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This guy had an extended magazine which is illegal in California BUT the NRA is suing so there is an injunction so it can't be enforced


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject:

Florida Governor and Senate race now both in automatic recount range.

Governor is currently

DeSantis 4,069,471

Gillum 4,030,947

49.62% to 49.15% auto recount is under .5%

Senate is even closer

Scott 4,091,437

Nelson 4,074,084

50.11% to 49.89% or .22% This one is in HAND recount range.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:37 pm    Post subject:

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If you read the Bob Woodward book. There's an excerpt where after Kellyanne meets with Trump as shes walking out she tells one of the other staffers "I need to take a shower". She 100% finds Trump disgusting but I'm not giving her an ounce of sympathy. Shes basically as trump would say it "doing anything for a buck".


That only make her even more vile.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:39 pm    Post subject:

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nickuku wrote:
If you read the Bob Woodward book. There's an excerpt where after Kellyanne meets with Trump as shes walking out she tells one of the other staffers "I need to take a shower". She 100% finds Trump disgusting but I'm not giving her an ounce of sympathy. Shes basically as trump would say it "doing anything for a buck".


That only make her even more vile.


was that a private meeting?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject:

nickuku wrote:
If you read the Bob Woodward book. There's an excerpt where after Kellyanne meets with Trump as shes walking out she tells one of the other staffers "I need to take a shower". She 100% finds Trump disgusting but I'm not giving her an ounce of sympathy. Shes basically as trump would say it "doing anything for a buck".


wasn't that off air with Mika and Joe after a segment.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject:

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nickuku wrote:
If you read the Bob Woodward book. There's an excerpt where after Kellyanne meets with Trump as shes walking out she tells one of the other staffers "I need to take a shower". She 100% finds Trump disgusting but I'm not giving her an ounce of sympathy. Shes basically as trump would say it "doing anything for a buck".


wasn't that off air with Mika and Joe after a segment.


Might be there's just so much (bleep) I might be confusing things.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:58 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
nickuku wrote:
If you read the Bob Woodward book. There's an excerpt where after Kellyanne meets with Trump as shes walking out she tells one of the other staffers "I need to take a shower". She 100% finds Trump disgusting but I'm not giving her an ounce of sympathy. Shes basically as trump would say it "doing anything for a buck".


That only make her even more vile.


Exactly! There has to be a point when a person realizes their support of "their Boss" is harmful to many many people

If she was keeping a job with jackass down the corner then not that big of a deal but giving moral support and comfort to a man who is hurting millions and millions of people is disgusting

Trump will remain an (bleep) until everyone stops associating with him and tears him down hardcore. Horrible creepy old man who let's his staff tweet INFOWARS fake videos and has built Infant Internment Camps..

Sick Republicans allow him to continue to harm our country
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:29 pm    Post subject:

Investigations? What do they accomplish? Name one that produced a positive result. (I haven't properly researched the question.) They stall, back burner, real issues, help those who create the reason for the investigation.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject:

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Investigations? What do they accomplish? Name one that produced a positive result. (I haven't properly researched the question.) They stall, back burner, real issues, help those who create the reason for the investigation.


just let the criminals walk?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject:

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Investigations? What do the accomplish? Name one that produced a positive result. They stall, back burner, real issues, help those who create the reason for the investigation.


What, you say?

The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe SO FAR: over 100 criminal counts against 32 people and three companies

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1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty last October to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018.

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty last December to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

Finally, there are two other people Mueller initially investigated, but then handed over to others in the Justice Department to handle. Both eventually agreed to plea deals.

Michael Cohen: Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations, related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump.

Sam Patten: This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

Also, ever hear of Watergate or Iran/Contra?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:57 pm    Post subject:

Massachusetts state Atty General leading the way in calling for Whitacker to recuse himself:

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Acting AG Whitaker's hostility to the Special Counsel’s investigation disqualifies him from overseeing Robert Mueller. We are leading 18 state attorneys general in calling on Whitaker to recuse himself immediately. #ProtectMueller


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:04 pm    Post subject:

‘You can’t fire the truth’: Watch massive protests gather around the country to protect Mueller’s probe
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject:

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‘You can’t fire the truth’: Watch massive protests gather around the country to protect Mueller’s probe


Will the protest save Mueller? Trump has shown his disdain for what's right if it blots his agenda. I believe Trump will do what ever's necessary to kill the Mueller investigation. Hopefully Mueller is six steps in front and has a contingency in place.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Investigations? What do they accomplish? Name one that produced a positive result. (I haven't properly researched the question.) They stall, back burner, real issues, help those who create the reason for the investigation.
Jo, lets be real. aint nothing about to get done anyway. At least not with the Reds holding the other portion of congress. We've seen this movie before during Obama's Administration. We know good and well even if the dems put forth some really common sense legislation. the reds wont sign off. we know this already. We know they are only signing off on things their nutcase base will like which will keep them in office. Therefore, there is nothing to compromise with them on to be honest. you can't compromise with a crazy person. So might as well investigate and at worse let us all know who the criminals are for real. whether or not something happens after that is another discussion.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:50 pm    Post subject:

#ProtectMueller is top trending on twitter.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProtectMueller?src=tren&lang=en
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
‘You can’t fire the truth’: Watch massive protests gather around the country to protect Mueller’s probe


Will the protest save Mueller? Trump has shown his disdain for what's right if it blots his agenda. I believe Trump will do what ever's necessary to kill the Mueller investigation. Hopefully Mueller is six steps in front and has a contingency in place.


You protest because it's the right thing to do. You apply pressure and see what happens. Then you apply more pressure.

Remember when it was a sure thing the ACA would be repealed and the GOP controlled the Senate, House and White House? People protested, called, applied pressure, protested again, called again, sent postcards, wrote op-eds. And what happened? It didn't get repealed.

You cannot stop defending Democracy because the other side will never stop attacking it. You defend it no matter what you think the other side is going to do.
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