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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:51 am    Post subject:

7th in OffRtg (up from 10th)
23rd in DefRtg (same)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject:

durden-tyler wrote:
7th in OffRtg (up from 10th)
23rd in DefRtg (same)


Keep up w/ the steady improvement.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:22 pm    Post subject:

durden-tyler wrote:
7th in OffRtg (up from 10th)
23rd in DefRtg (same)


Let's get to that top 15 defense.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject:

Top 5 offense / top 15 defense and I’d be happy...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject:

Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.


And that's with Kuz shooting well below average at 31%. Offense is just fine and should easily be top 5 soon enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject:

11th in OffRtg (down from 9th)
17th in DefRtg (same)

From the eye test, I see a lot of potential in this team, there are some times where you fell they could be elite (offensively AND defensively) despite James coasting offensively and playing almost no defense... Still optimistic for the season !!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:41 am    Post subject:

We're trending up in a lot of good categories. You can see that roles are becoming more settled and they are playing better together.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:50 am    Post subject:

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We're trending up in a lot of good categories. You can see that roles are becoming more settled and they are playing better together.


We got away from the delusion that small-ball at a high Pace was wave of the future. In fact, I think the league as a whole did the same thing, but we had cranked it up to 11.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject:

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defense wrote:
We're trending up in a lot of good categories. You can see that roles are becoming more settled and they are playing better together.


We got away from the delusion that small-ball at a high Pace was wave of the future. In fact, I think the league as a whole did the same thing, but we had cranked it up to 11.


Small ball with an elite defender at the middle is still a great move imo.
Unfortunately we had Kuz, Williams and Beasley prior to Tyson.
We're still going 4 guards with Tyson as our 2nd unit though which is a small lineup no?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
We're trending up in a lot of good categories. You can see that roles are becoming more settled and they are playing better together.


Yeah. Luke has shorten the rotation, we know better what the new guys can or cannot do.

ON TO THE PLAYOFFS
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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defense wrote:
We're trending up in a lot of good categories. You can see that roles are becoming more settled and they are playing better together.


We got away from the delusion that small-ball at a high Pace was wave of the future. In fact, I think the league as a whole did the same thing, but we had cranked it up to 11.


Small ball with an elite defender at the middle is still a great move imo.
Unfortunately we had Kuz, Williams and Beasley prior to Tyson.
We're still going 4 guards with Tyson as our 2nd unit though which is a small lineup no?


Smaller, sure, but it's not small-ball if you have a genuine center in the middle. Four guards and a center is just a variation on Moreyball.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.


I clearly remember when Pelinka laid out the reasons the FO was confident with the 3pt shooting once LeBron signed, and the roster was pretty much finalized.

He looked at the fact that Hart was proficient, KCP, once he warmed up as he is now, shot well, BI shot well, Lonzo was coming off his only season at UCLA in which he shot 41% from three, Lance was decent, we drafted Svi & Wagner, etc.,

They felt confident adding LeBron to that mix.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject:

#2 in Fast Break Points per game (Down 1 Since Last Week)
#2 in Points in the Paint per game (Down 1 since last week)

#3 in percentage of points from 2 pointers (Down 2 Since Last week)
#4 in Possessions per game (Down 1 since last week)

#3 in Fast Break Efficiency
#3 in Shooting Percentage (Up one since last week)
#4 in Steals per game (Up 1 since last week)
#5 Effective Field Goal percentage
#5 in Assists per game (Up 1 since last week)

#7 in Scoring (Down 4 Since Last Week)
#7 in Blocks per game
#6 in Opponents Turnovers per game (Up 1 since last week)
#9 in Opponents % Points from 3 pointers (Down 3 since last week)
#10 in Rebounds per game
#11 in Offensive Efficiency (Down 1 Since Last Week)
#14 in Winning Percentage (Up 7 Since last week)
#14 in Assist/ Turnover Ratio (Down 3 since last week)
#17 in Defensive Efficiency (Up 6 since last week)
#17 in 3 pointers (Up 7 spots since last week)
#18 in 3pt percentage (Up 2 since last week)
#25 Turnovers per game (Down 2 since last week)
#28 Free Throw Percentage (Down 4 Since Last Week)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject:

Lakers are the 4th best defense for the last 6 games.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/181113-defensive-minded-centers-fueling-lakers-surge
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers’ 3-point shooting has been surprisingly solid

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For the past few months, national pundits have warned us that the Los Angeles Lakers would be a bad 3-point shooting team, based on the additions they made this summer. So far, it looks like that may not be the case.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/11/13/los-angeles-lakers-3-point-shooting-surprisingly-solid/
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject:

durden-tyler wrote:
7th in OffRtg (up from 10th)
23rd in DefRtg (same)


We would be top 2 in OffRtg if we had even an avg efficiency half court offense instead of one of the worst
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:55 pm    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.


And that's with Kuz shooting well below average at 31%. Offense is just fine and should easily be top 5 soon enough.


We could be an offensive juggernaut if we ran good sets in the halfcourt and our guys shot to expectation. It’s no shock to be an offensive juggernaut when you have the best player in the league surrounded by solidly talented offensive players, a deep team at that.
Instead we’ll be a top 5-7 offense but not truly imposing/borderline dominating on O. I’m glad Magic saw the stagnant halfcourt O , and wants Luke to get more experienced assistants.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:30 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
manlisten wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.


And that's with Kuz shooting well below average at 31%. Offense is just fine and should easily be top 5 soon enough.


We could be an offensive juggernaut if we ran good sets in the halfcourt and our guys shot to expectation. It’s no shock to be an offensive juggernaut when you have the best player in the league surrounded by solidly talented offensive players, a deep team at that.
Instead we’ll be a top 5-7 offense but not truly imposing/borderline dominating on O. I’m glad Magic saw the stagnant halfcourt O , and wants Luke to get more experienced assistants.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:23 am    Post subject:

10th in OffRtg (up from 11th)
20th in DefRtg (down from 17th)
11th in NetRtg (up from 15th)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:27 am    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
#2 in Fast Break Points per game (Down 1 Since Last Week)
#2 in Points in the Paint per game (Down 1 since last week)

#3 in percentage of points from 2 pointers (Down 2 Since Last week)
#4 in Possessions per game (Down 1 since last week)

#3 in Fast Break Efficiency
#3 in Shooting Percentage (Up one since last week)
#4 in Steals per game (Up 1 since last week)
#5 Effective Field Goal percentage
#5 in Assists per game (Up 1 since last week)

#7 in Scoring (Down 4 Since Last Week)
#7 in Blocks per game
#6 in Opponents Turnovers per game (Up 1 since last week)
#9 in Opponents % Points from 3 pointers (Down 3 since last week)
#10 in Rebounds per game
#11 in Offensive Efficiency (Down 1 Since Last Week)
#14 in Winning Percentage (Up 7 Since last week)
#14 in Assist/ Turnover Ratio (Down 3 since last week)
#17 in Defensive Efficiency (Up 6 since last week)
#17 in 3 pointers (Up 7 spots since last week)
#18 in 3pt percentage (Up 2 since last week)
#25 Turnovers per game (Down 2 since last week)
#28 Free Throw Percentage (Down 4 Since Last Week)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Lakers vs the League - The Stats

Aussiesuede wrote:
Even after an 0-2 Start the Lakers are actually doing some things right:

They are:

#1 in Fast Break Points per game
#2 in Points in the Paint per game
#2 in percentage of ponts from 2 pointers
#3 in Blocks per game with Javale Mcgee #1 overall
#4 in Fast Break Efficiency
#5 in 3rd Qtr Points
#6 in Steals per game with Josh Hart #2 overall
#8 in Assists per game with Rondo #1 overall
#8 Scoring - Points per game

The Lakers had 7 players score in double figures against the Rockets, the most by any team since 2006.


They are #1 to me..!

Thank God for LeBron...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
manlisten wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.


And that's with Kuz shooting well below average at 31%. Offense is just fine and should easily be top 5 soon enough.


We could be an offensive juggernaut if we ran good sets in the halfcourt and our guys shot to expectation. It’s no shock to be an offensive juggernaut when you have the best player in the league surrounded by solidly talented offensive players, a deep team at that.
Instead we’ll be a top 5-7 offense but not truly imposing/borderline dominating on O. I’m glad Magic saw the stagnant halfcourt O , and wants Luke to get more experienced assistants.



THIS


My Brother tried to bring up that "Lakers have no Shooter" BS. We have guys that can score inside. That is a lot more important in a playoffs series when the 3s stop falling.

Ask Houston!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
manlisten wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Interesting stat here if my eyes don't deceive me;

The Lakers rank #14 in the NBA in 3 pt shooting at 35.3%

This in spite of LeBron shooting under 30% on 5.5 attempts per game.


If you subtract LeBron's 3 pt shooting so far this year, and the rest of the Lakers are collectively shooting 36.9% so far from 3.


That would rank 8th best in the NBA in 3 pt shooting after 11 games.


So.. uh... yeah. Too bad we didn't surround LeBron with any shooters.


And that's with Kuz shooting well below average at 31%. Offense is just fine and should easily be top 5 soon enough.


We could be an offensive juggernaut if we ran good sets in the halfcourt and our guys shot to expectation. It’s no shock to be an offensive juggernaut when you have the best player in the league surrounded by solidly talented offensive players, a deep team at that.
Instead we’ll be a top 5-7 offense but not truly imposing/borderline dominating on O. I’m glad Magic saw the stagnant halfcourt O , and wants Luke to get more experienced assistants.



THIS


My Brother tried to bring up that "Lakers have no Shooter" BS. We have guys that can score inside. That is a lot more important in a playoffs series when the 3s stop falling.

Ask Houston!


Even the announcers yesterday thought the Lakers didnt have enough shooters.
They seem to think you need a guy who's only known for shooting and sucks at everything else.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Lakers vs the League - The Stats

unleasHell wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Even after an 0-2 Start the Lakers are actually doing some things right:

They are:

#1 in Fast Break Points per game
#2 in Points in the Paint per game
#2 in percentage of ponts from 2 pointers
#3 in Blocks per game with Javale Mcgee #1 overall
#4 in Fast Break Efficiency
#5 in 3rd Qtr Points
#6 in Steals per game with Josh Hart #2 overall
#8 in Assists per game with Rondo #1 overall
#8 Scoring - Points per game

The Lakers had 7 players score in double figures against the Rockets, the most by any team since 2006.


They are #1 to me..!

Thank God for LeBron...


I realize that I'm in the minority, but I have great news: the LeBron you see now is not the LeBron we'll see in about another month. I honestly believe that he's in great shape, but not great basketball shape.

The difference will be evident as he gets his legs and lift. Those three pointers will be easier to shoot, even though he makes it look easy right now.
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