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Villain6Activated Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:11 am Post subject: Which five players should be in our starting lineup and why? |
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Cleary a big debate on LG currently. Some want Ingram out for Hart, some want Kuzma out for Hart, others want Lonzo out for Hart/KCP and some want two of the three out.
Only guys we all agree on are Lebron and McGee. So who should it be? _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Might as well play the young guys rather than the rent-a-vets who will be gone next year. I don't really care which of the young guys plays. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Same starters. Sub in Josh Hart earlier for Brandon Ingram. Transfer his minutes more to the bench unit, where they need shot creation in Rondo's absence.
But if I were to be more bold, put Kuzma on the bench, have Ingram at 3, start Hart or KCP at 2. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Here's a lineup I wouldn't mind seeing starting.
It's a bit thinking outside the box lineup.
Lonzo
KCP
Svi
Lebron
Mcgee
I know it's a bit crazy putting Svi in the starting lineup but Lebron needs shooters around him and KCP and Svi would provide him that.
Then you would have a second unit of
Rondo
Hart
BI
Kuz
Chandler |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Starters
Ball
Hart
LeBron
Kuzma
McGee
Bench
KCP
Svi
Ingram
Beasley
Chandler
Wont happen but these are my ideal lineups .. |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee
Lonzo or Ingram
Hart
Svi
Kuzma/Beasley
Mo/Chandler
For me the key is to put Lonzo or Ingram with the young shooters... and not with Lance under any circumstance.
Lance has been playing well... but he's like a bad version of Kobe who takes over the game... and can only get you so far.
Let LBJ play with the vets he forced management to sign. |
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Math Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Same starters. Sub in Josh Hart earlier for Brandon Ingram. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:06 am Post subject: |
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I'd start with:
Lonzo
Hart
BI
LBJ
JaVale.
If there weren't any politics involved, I'd try:
Lonzo
Hart
LBJ
Kuz
JaVale _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:07 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | I'd start with:
Lonzo
Hart
BI
LBJ
JaVale.
If there weren't any politics involved, I'd try:
Lonzo
Hart
LBJ
Kuz
JaVale |
Yup. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:09 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: |
If there weren't any politics involved, I'd try:
Lonzo
Hart
LBJ
Kuz
JaVale |
These would be my starters. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:10 am Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If there weren't any politics involved, I'd try:
Lonzo
Hart
LBJ
Kuz
JaVale |
These would be my starters. |
BI with Rondo/Lance though is pretty much a disaster though. So it's just a poor roster construction all around. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Pretty simple. Hart (even KCP) in for Ingram. |
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Great One Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Ball
Ingram
Lebron
Kuzma
Mcgee
whats there record since that line up?
Ingram has been money, and Hart has been playin like trash lately _________________ "Nobody hates the good ones. They hate the great ones." - KB
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:15 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | ocho wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: |
If there weren't any politics involved, I'd try:
Lonzo
Hart
LBJ
Kuz
JaVale |
These would be my starters. |
BI with Rondo/Lance though is pretty much a disaster though. So it's just a poor roster construction all around. |
Roster construction does suck. Could give Svi Lance’s minutes since he was drafted to help fill our shooting void .. instead of just riding the bench. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Starters
Ball
Hart
Ingram
Lebron
McGee
would like to see more of....especially when the game is slower and more half court
Ingram
Hart
James
Kuzma
Chandler |
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JM Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee
Lonzo or Ingram
Hart
Svi
Kuzma/Beasley
Mo/Chandler
For me the key is to put Lonzo or Ingram with the young shooters... and not with Lance under any circumstance.
Lance has been playing well... but he's like a bad version of Kobe who takes over the game... and can only get you so far.
Let LBJ play with the vets he forced management to sign. |
I do not like Lance's game. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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TheBlackMamba Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: |
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How much does it matter who starts when Luke and his boys still suck at Xs and Os? |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:34 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. |
so the team was supposedly designed to have multiple ball handlers to ease the burden on Lebron....yet no other ball handlers should be on the court with Lebron because since he is the best ball handler on the team, he should always have the ball? |
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yuurin98 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:35 am Post subject: |
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It is clear that BI is the odd man out... he isnt part of any good 5 man lineup for us...
Unless BI embraces the role that he played on his rookie season, else I would go with
Ball
Hart/KCP
James
Kuzma
McGee _________________ I was an atheist, until I knew Kobe.
I love basketball. *Metta voice* |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:38 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. |
so the team was supposedly designed to have multiple ball handlers to ease the burden on Lebron....yet no other ball handlers should be on the court with Lebron because since he is the best ball handler on the team, he should always have the ball? |
Yes. B/c having THREE guys who really want to handle the ball (and none really are good off ball) is a problem.
I'm fine with 2 of them together but not 3. And the poster also included Lance which would be even worse if all 4 played together. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:40 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | adkindo wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. |
so the team was supposedly designed to have multiple ball handlers to ease the burden on Lebron....yet no other ball handlers should be on the court with Lebron because since he is the best ball handler on the team, he should always have the ball? |
Yes. B/c having THREE guys who really want to handle the ball (and none really are good off ball) is a problem.
I'm fine with 2 of them together but not 3. And the poster also included Lance which would be even worse if all 4 played together. |
that is fine, but you must have an issue with the way the roster was constructed.....because clearly the intent was to have more than 2 guys that can create with the ball in their hands on the court. |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:41 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. |
I don't have a problem switching Ingram for Kuzma or Hart... I don't care who starts
I'm only saying that Lonzo and Ingram will do better without being put in a lineup where they have to defer to vets, and with one that has shooters.
Keep them away from Lance.
Let Lance freestyle with LBJ. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:43 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | adkindo wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. |
so the team was supposedly designed to have multiple ball handlers to ease the burden on Lebron....yet no other ball handlers should be on the court with Lebron because since he is the best ball handler on the team, he should always have the ball? |
Yes. B/c having THREE guys who really want to handle the ball (and none really are good off ball) is a problem.
I'm fine with 2 of them together but not 3. And the poster also included Lance which would be even worse if all 4 played together. |
that is fine, but you must have an issue with the way the roster was constructed.....because clearly the intent was to have more than 2 guys that can create with the ball in their hands on the court. |
I do. Didn't like the opportunity cost of Lance. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Rondo
KCP/Lance
Ingram
LBJ
McGee |
This is quite the disaster lineup.
Rondo/BI/LBJ should never see the court together. All 3 need the ball in their hands and LBJ should frankly have it over them. |
I don't have a problem switching Ingram for Kuzma or Hart... I don't care who starts
I'm only saying that Lonzo and Ingram will do better without being put in a lineup where they have to defer to vets, and with one that has shooters.
Keep them away from Lance.
Let Lance freestyle with LBJ. |
I actually like Lonzo's fit with LBJ. I don't think LBJ needs more ball pounding PG play from a guy like Rondo. I think BI is the most affected out of all our young core. But he has to adapt, not the other way around. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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