GOODBYE JULIUS RANDLE (Lakers Renounce Randle at his request, Who Then Signs W/ NOR for 2 years (1+1), $18m)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:53 am    Post subject:

Per 36 minutes per game (because JR is only playing like 27 MPG so far), this is where Randle ranks for player who play more than 20 MPG:

PPG: T-13th/14th (24.9 PPG)
RPG: 13th (12.5 RPG)
APG: T-44th/45th (3.5 APG)

He's also 20th in the league in TS% (62.1 TS%)

He's also one of 10 players in this league average 18+ PPG/9+ RPG/2+ APG, and the ONLY player in the league to do it while averaging less than a minimum of 31 MPG. The only players to do it while averaging less than 33 MPG are Randle and Nikola Vucevic. Of those 10 players, if you look at per 36 numbers, Randle ranks 5th in PPG, T-1st/2nd in TS%, 6th in RPG, and 8th in APG. Only 5 of those 10 average 24+ PPG, 12+ RPG and 3+ APG per 36 minutes, including Randle, Giannis, Vucevic, AD and Embiid.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:04 am    Post subject:

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Per 36 minutes per game (because JR is only playing like 27 MPG so far), this is where Randle ranks for player who play more than 20 MPG:

PPG: T-13th/14th (24.9 PPG)
RPG: 13th (12.5 RPG)
APG: T-44th/45th (3.5 APG)

He's also 20th in the league in TS% (62.1 TS%)

He's also one of 10 players in this league average 18+ PPG/9+ RPG/2+ APG, and the ONLY player in the league to do it while averaging less than a minimum of 31 MPG. The only players to do it while averaging less than 33 MPG are Randle and Nikola Vucevic. Of those 10 players, if you look at per 36 numbers, Randle ranks 5th in PPG, T-1st/2nd in TS%, 6th in RPG, and 8th in APG. Only 5 of those 10 average 24+ PPG, 12+ RPG and 3+ APG per 36 minutes, including Randle, Giannis, Vucevic, AD and Embiid.


How much he gonna get next summer? ball park?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject:

I would guess around $15-18 mil per year. I haven’t looked at which teams will have cap space to guess who might pay him.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject:

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I would guess around $15-18 mil per year. I haven’t looked at which teams will have cap space to guess who might pay him.


brooklyn better throw him a bajillion dollars and a ownership stake
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:18 pm    Post subject:

Looking like the FO (bleep) up not giving JR a long term deal:

19/9/2.5 AND he's shooting 34% from 3pt range on 1.8 attempts in only 27 MPG. He has a per 36 on 25/12/4

He would have been the perfect small center for us. Oh well
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject:

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This isn't like when D'Lo was traded and there were still questions about whether or not he'd pan out.

A lot of people saw what Julius could be and saw how he was being held back at times while playing here. Unfortunately you also had FAR too many people that were quick to dismiss every positive sign as some sort of fluke.

He's scoring efficiently and is a proven double double machine.

He's effective as a starter AND coming off the bench.

He's shooting much better from 3 while taking more 3's than he was allowed to take as a Laker.

He's still showing that when needed you can run an offense through him and he can be an effective playmaker for others.

Other than sheer stupidity and stubbornness there was no reason dump on Julius and basically push him out the door.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

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Other than sheer stupidity and stubbornness there was no reason dump on Julius and basically push him out the door.


I can't completely say it was 100% on the Lakers, (maybe 80% Lakers, 20% Jules and his Mintz team).

But yeah, I 100% wanted Jules back and it's sad.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:03 am    Post subject:

Odd, the Pels added him into the mix and went from a 48-34 sixth seed to a .500 12th seed. JR is the epitome of an empty stats player. I said it this offseason and I stand by it, no team giving JR significant minutes will make the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject:

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Odd, the Pels added him into the mix and went from a 48-34 sixth seed to a .500 12th seed. JR is the epitome of an empty stats player. I said it this offseason and I stand by it, no team giving JR significant minutes will make the playoffs.

Are you kidding me?!

You want to be right about your hot take more than you want to be intellectually honest.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Odd, the Pels added him into the mix and went from a 48-34 sixth seed to a .500 12th seed. JR is the epitome of an empty stats player. I said it this offseason and I stand by it, no team giving JR significant minutes will make the playoffs.

Are you kidding me?!

You want to be right about your hot take more than you want to be intellectually honest.


It’s possible I care more about being right than being honest...but not in this case DLO, JC, JR, Nance....all of them will be sitting on the couch come playoff time. Our young core V1 0 was horrendous. JR is the best of the bunch, which isn’t saying much.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

I just saw something that said the pels had the exact same record at this time last year like 2 days ago
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Odd, the Pels added him into the mix and went from a 48-34 sixth seed to a .500 12th seed. JR is the epitome of an empty stats player. I said it this offseason and I stand by it, no team giving JR significant minutes will make the playoffs.

Are you kidding me?!

You want to be right about your hot take more than you want to be intellectually honest.


It’s possible I care more about being right than being honest...but not in this case DLO, JC, JR, Nance....all of them will be sitting on the couch come playoff time. Our young core V1 0 was horrendous. JR is the best of the bunch, which isn’t saying much.

JC and Larry were playing in June this year while Lakers young core V2.0 was watching them at home. Then Lebron switched teams.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFU1HfU-PI

its some incredible basketball moves in these highlights fam
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:17 pm    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Odd, the Pels added him into the mix and went from a 48-34 sixth seed to a .500 12th seed. JR is the epitome of an empty stats player. I said it this offseason and I stand by it, no team giving JR significant minutes will make the playoffs.

Are you kidding me?!

You want to be right about your hot take more than you want to be intellectually honest.


It’s possible I care more about being right than being honest...but not in this case DLO, JC, JR, Nance....all of them will be sitting on the couch come playoff time. Our young core V1 0 was horrendous. JR is the best of the bunch, which isn’t saying much.


They lost a starter in Rondo and the guy who replaced him has been injured after 6 games.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Odd, the Pels added him into the mix and went from a 48-34 sixth seed to a .500 12th seed. JR is the epitome of an empty stats player. I said it this offseason and I stand by it, no team giving JR significant minutes will make the playoffs.

Are you kidding me?!

You want to be right about your hot take more than you want to be intellectually honest.


It’s possible I care more about being right than being honest...but not in this case DLO, JC, JR, Nance....all of them will be sitting on the couch come playoff time. Our young core V1 0 was horrendous. JR is the best of the bunch, which isn’t saying much.


Funny, you are already wrong. Actually more sad than funny.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject:

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I just saw something that said the pels had the exact same record at this time last year like 2 days ago


They didn’t start to dominate until Cousins went down
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:55 am    Post subject:

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I just saw something that said the pels had the exact same record at this time last year like 2 days ago


They didn’t start to dominate until Cousins went down


They were on a 7-1 stretch before he went down, including a victory vs the red hot Rockets.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:14 am    Post subject:

Pels are 3-7 for their last 10 games
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Jules is playing some good ball in NO. Must be the cajun cooking.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject:

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Pels are 3-7 for their last 10 games


Julius Randle Last 5 Games

26.2 / 10.8 / 2.6 on 57% from the field and 46% from three

Anthony Davis Last 5 Games

23.4 / 11.2 / 5.8 / 3.8 / 1.8 on 54% from the field


Pelicans are 3-2 in that stretch. I think their front court is the least of the Pelican's problems at this point.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject:

28/6/5 in win over Pistons. AD had an offnight against Drummond and Blake. Holiday had 37, but 9 TOs.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject:

Realistically, if AD is now a center. Where does Randle rank in terms of top PFs in the West?

I'd have him over Milsap, Aldridge and Mirotic. So... I'd stress to say that if you consider Anthony Davis a center, the title of best power forward in the Western Conference is arguably between Julius Randle and Draymond Green.

IF we look at the top PF's considered in the league currently

You've got

Giannis (unless you consider him a 3)
Draymond Green
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
LaMarcus Aldridge
Paul Milsap


I'd stress to say I'd take Randle over Blake or Love at this point so going by that list, if we consider Davis a center now, you could arguably have Randle top 3-4 in the league at power forward currently and this season.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject:

Randle will get paid this summer. I can see Nets offering him a big deal and let RHJ leave. Aaron Mintz might want that as well if DLo re-signs with the nets.

DLO
LeVert
Joe Harris
Randle
Allen

You have a front court like Pistons with two guards capable of averaging 20 PPG and a terrific 3P shooter in Harris.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject:

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Randle will get paid this summer. I can see Nets offering him a big deal and let RHJ leave. Aaron Mintz might want that as well if DLo re-signs with the nets.

DLO
LeVert
Joe Harris
Randle
Allen

You have a front court like Pistons with two guards capable of averaging 20 PPG and a terrific 3P shooter in Harris.


Nets capitalizing on our losses.
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