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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:25 am    Post subject:

I wish we played the Spurs more often, barely have seen any Lakers vs. Spurs this season.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
I wish we played the Spurs more often, barely have seen any Lakers vs. Spurs this season.


Then don't miss this game because we don't play the Spurs again, regular season, until next season.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
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epak wrote:
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For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


Cuz Lakers are mediocre on the road.
And the kids play worse on the road.
And BI is injured.


But the Spurs are horrible


7-4 at home though.


Like 32 said they have played a lot in recent games with no rest and they are a old team unless a wizard gives them fresh legs, this should be a win.


Patty Mills bricked a LOT of wide open looks last night. He's a 39% career shooter from 3. Role players usually hit those shots at home. We're going to need someone besides Lebron to hit some shots and help carry the offense.


The Spurs shot 18% from 3 at the game in San Antonio earlier this year. I don't think the venue matters. Teams are shook when they play this team and they clank no matter where the game is.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
I wish we played the Spurs more often, barely have seen any Lakers vs. Spurs this season.


You mean you have barely seen them?

Because there isn't another team that we have seen more than we have seen the Spurs this season.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
I wish we played the Spurs more often, barely have seen any Lakers vs. Spurs this season.


You mean you have barely seen them?

Because there isn't another team that we have seen more than we have seen the Spurs this season.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:06 am    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
I wish we played the Spurs more often, barely have seen any Lakers vs. Spurs this season.


You mean you have barely seen them?

Because there isn't another team that we have seen more than we have seen the Spurs this season.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
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For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


Cuz Lakers are mediocre on the road.
And the kids play worse on the road.
And BI is injured.


Yup. Lonzo is like two different players at home vs on the road.

FG%: 43% vs 34%
3pt%: 44% vs 18%
Pts/Rebs/Ast: 10/6/5 vs 6/4/4
ORTG: 106 vs 87
DRTG: 104 vs 112


And it was the opposite last year. Because of that, I think it shows his consistency issues more so than a home vs road trend.


If his consistency issues were not tied to home/road splits, we would see comparable numbers for home/road but we don’t.

It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that the reason he struggled at home last year is for a different reason than why he struggles on the road this year.


Or it just could be statistical noise.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

The 3 road games against the blazers, magic and nuggets messed is up.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject:

They're going to double LeBron and make him more of a perimeter player going into this game.

Someone else is going to have to step up.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:01 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


Cuz Lakers are mediocre on the road.
And the kids play worse on the road.
And BI is injured.


Yup. Lonzo is like two different players at home vs on the road.

FG%: 43% vs 34%
3pt%: 44% vs 18%
Pts/Rebs/Ast: 10/6/5 vs 6/4/4
ORTG: 106 vs 87
DRTG: 104 vs 112


And it was the opposite last year. Because of that, I think it shows his consistency issues more so than a home vs road trend.


If his consistency issues were not tied to home/road splits, we would see comparable numbers for home/road but we don’t.

It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that the reason he struggled at home last year is for a different reason than why he struggles on the road this year.


Or it just could be statistical noise.


And small sample size. His home vs road numbers will be much closer to each other by the end of the year.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:10 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


Cuz Lakers are mediocre on the road.
And the kids play worse on the road.
And BI is injured.


Yup. Lonzo is like two different players at home vs on the road.

FG%: 43% vs 34%
3pt%: 44% vs 18%
Pts/Rebs/Ast: 10/6/5 vs 6/4/4
ORTG: 106 vs 87
DRTG: 104 vs 112


And it was the opposite last year. Because of that, I think it shows his consistency issues more so than a home vs road trend.


If his consistency issues were not tied to home/road splits, we would see comparable numbers for home/road but we don’t.

It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that the reason he struggled at home last year is for a different reason than why he struggles on the road this year.


Or it just could be statistical noise.


Outside of wanting it to be random error, which isn't likely, there's no evidence to suggest the differences are noise. Unless, we believe the noise is only occurring with Lonzo and not anyone else, also not likely.

Most players play better at home. It's more the degree to which Lonzo plays better at home that is interesting. I don't like +/-, but it was the only sort of "net" type rating on splits I could find on BF so just as a point of reference...

Lebron (+/-)
Home: +8.9
Road: -1.0

Ingram (+/-)
Home: +7.5
Road: +0.9

Kuz (+/-)
Home: +9.4
Road: -2.5

Lonzo(+/-)
Home: +7.4
Road: -8.5
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject:

Let's crush these sons of (bleep) in their house and send them to the bottom of the conference.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject:

Excited to see kuzma as the clear-cut #2 option.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject:

Here's hoping that we can hit at least 30% of our 3's and 70% on free throws.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject:

And excited to see Hart in starting 5
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject:

Let's get united and pray in one voice to the Basketball Gods that for the 8 minutes for the backup PG,

LUKE DON'T USE LANCE!!

Hart,
Svi,

Even Bonga

BUT NOT LANCE

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
markjay wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


Cuz Lakers are mediocre on the road.
And the kids play worse on the road.
And BI is injured.


Yup. Lonzo is like two different players at home vs on the road.

FG%: 43% vs 34%
3pt%: 44% vs 18%
Pts/Rebs/Ast: 10/6/5 vs 6/4/4
ORTG: 106 vs 87
DRTG: 104 vs 112


And it was the opposite last year. Because of that, I think it shows his consistency issues more so than a home vs road trend.


If his consistency issues were not tied to home/road splits, we would see comparable numbers for home/road but we don’t.

It’s possible, perhaps even likely, that the reason he struggled at home last year is for a different reason than why he struggles on the road this year.


Or it just could be statistical noise.


Outside of wanting it to be random error, which isn't likely, there's no evidence to suggest the differences are noise. Unless, we believe the noise is only occurring with Lonzo and not anyone else, also not likely.

Most players play better at home. It's more the degree to which Lonzo plays better at home that is interesting. I don't like +/-, but it was the only sort of "net" type rating on splits I could find on BF so just as a point of reference...

Lebron (+/-)
Home: +8.9
Road: -1.0

Ingram (+/-)
Home: +7.5
Road: +0.9

Kuz (+/-)
Home: +9.4
Road: -2.5

Lonzo(+/-)
Home: +7.4
Road: -8.5


But why are you so sure the 24 games from this year are more valuable than 50 games from last year where he was better on the road? Of course most players are better at home but that’s not the case with Lonzo over the course of his young career.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:25 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


These betting lines that seem too good to be true make me wonder. I can't see why the Spurs would be favored.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:29 am    Post subject:

Treble Clef wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


These betting lines that seem too good to be true make me wonder. I can't see why the Spurs would be favored.


Well, they're in SA, so expect the refs to try to rob us of the W to give them a moral victory during their tanking season.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject:

Treble Clef wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


These betting lines that seem too good to be true make me wonder. I can't see why the Spurs would be favored.


They changed it, the Lakers are now favored.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject:

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But why are you so sure the 24 games from this year are more valuable than 50 games from last year where he was better on the road? Of course most players are better at home but that’s not the case with Lonzo over the course of his young career.


Because those are the numbers given the conditions of this year. And last year's numbers were based on the conditions of last year.

Just a theory, but maybe the young players are leaning harder on the new veteran presence we acquired when we are on the road.

We can debate WHY it is happening, I'm just merely pointing out that this season, Lonzo has not been nearly as good on the road as he has been at home.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject:

I don't know but I smell a fight tonite...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Treble Clef wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


These betting lines that seem too good to be true make me wonder. I can't see why the Spurs would be favored.


They changed it, the Lakers are now favored.


I'm seeing the spread currently at EVEN.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:45 am    Post subject:

BadGuy wrote:
Treble Clef wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


These betting lines that seem too good to be true make me wonder. I can't see why the Spurs would be favored.


Well, they're in SA, so expect the refs to try to rob us of the W to give them a moral victory during their tanking season.


That would be a bad business move. If the Spurs need losses, the Lakers need wins, and league ratings are helped by Lakers going as far as possible, there is one clear answer here.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Treble Clef wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
For some reason the Spurs are favored in this game.


These betting lines that seem too good to be true make me wonder. I can't see why the Spurs would be favored.


They changed it, the Lakers are now favored.


I'm seeing the spread currently at EVEN.


The Lakers were favored by -1 like 5 minutes ago, I’m guessing Vegas is still getting fans to bet on the game so that’s why it’s changing.
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