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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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The Juggernaut wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | The Juggernaut wrote: | crackadon wrote: | The Juggernaut wrote: | Get rid of Luke and bring in Thibs. |
Yikes |
Much better coach than Luke. Thibs just as a coach no GM powers is very good. He got screwed by Jimmy Butler becoming a cancer. He's only had 1 season where he finished below .500 while Luke has shown nothing so far. |
Yeah, uh, no. |
Yeah, uh, yes. I couldnt give a (bleep) less about Luke’s “progressive” hip style when the results are terrible. Thibs might be an old school coach but he has a way better coaching record and gets more out of his players than Pukey |
He may be better than Luke in the same way that Del Taco is better than Taco Bell |
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Gatekeeper Star Player
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody boxes out consistently. That’s either a failure of the defensive scheme or a failure of the coach holding them accountable for it. |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | The Juggernaut wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | The Juggernaut wrote: | crackadon wrote: | The Juggernaut wrote: | Get rid of Luke and bring in Thibs. |
Yikes |
Much better coach than Luke. Thibs just as a coach no GM powers is very good. He got screwed by Jimmy Butler becoming a cancer. He's only had 1 season where he finished below .500 while Luke has shown nothing so far. |
Yeah, uh, no. |
Yeah, uh, yes. I couldnt give a (bleep) less about Luke’s “progressive” hip style when the results are terrible. Thibs might be an old school coach but he has a way better coaching record and gets more out of his players than Pukey |
He may be better than Luke in the same way that Del Taco is better than Taco Bell |
No it’s like comparing a good steakhouse (Thibs) to Chipotle (Luke). Are you ignoring Thibs entire coaching career? He’s proven way more than Luke has even in yr 3 of his HC career. Even as an assistant Thibs was way better than Luke. |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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It is truly in bizarro land that Thibs' team crushes the Lakers and he gets fired and meanwhile, Luke "Clueless Schemes and Rotation" Walton still has a job. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Gatekeeper wrote: | Tom Izzo or Jay Wright. |
JVG has higher chance then those 2.
its lakers baby |
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Lazlow Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | Nobody boxes out consistently. That’s either a failure of the defensive scheme or a failure of the coach holding them accountable for it. |
That Barea tip in was embarrassing. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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^ We want good. Not “better than Luke”. |
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CantStopJM Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Guys aren't boxing out. Guys aren't competing defensively. But that's not on Luke right? So why is that there are coaches out there that always have great offensive schemes or defensive schemes no matter what the roster turnaround is? |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | ^ We want good. Not “better than Luke”. |
Yes I agree but so far this franchise has whiffed BADLY on coaches since Phil. So right now I’ll be happy with Thibs over Pukey |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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The Juggernaut wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | ^ We want good. Not “better than Luke”. |
Yes I agree but so far this franchise has whiffed BADLY on coaches since Phil. So right now I’ll be happy with Thibs over Pukey |
Not me. I want bettter. |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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We really can't afford to get the next hire wrong. It's do or die time. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | Guys aren't boxing out. Guys aren't competing defensively. But that's not on Luke right? So why is that there are coaches out there that always have great offensive schemes or defensive schemes no matter what the roster turnaround is? |
what exactly is your beef with Luke's offensive scheme? this is just BS _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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ShowtimeReturns Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know Luke gets very little love but I thought he coached his best game tonight They were a totally different team the second half |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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CantStopJM wrote: | Guys aren't boxing out. Guys aren't competing defensively. But that's not on Luke right? So why is that there are coaches out there that always have great offensive schemes or defensive schemes no matter what the roster turnaround is? |
time to give him credit for the 2nd half. |
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Lazlow Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Great defensively in the 2nd half. |
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drae Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm high on the core, real high, but I'm still unsure about Luke as coach. Glad I'm not making the decision because I think it'll be a real important decision to make for next year, which will be winning time! |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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ShowtimeReturns wrote: | I know Luke gets very little love but I thought he coached his best game tonight They were a totally different team the second half |
Not possible. I learned here he can’t make in game adjustments. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure if this has been mentioned, but most ex-coaches wind up as bench coaches on other teams,
So why not hire Thibs as the Defense Coach, Walton still gets to be the man and Thibs gets to go back to his roots, after reading about his downfall most of it came/started as he was also the GM, so you take away him picking bad players, you take away him over playing his best players and you have him get this young team on the right defensive track...
He might take it, thinking, if Walton gets fired he can slide right in... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | Not sure if this has been mentioned, but most ex-coaches wind up as bench coaches on other teams,
So why not hire Thibs as the Defense Coach, Walton still gets to be the man and Thibs gets to go back to his roots, after reading about his downfall most of it came/started as he was also the GM, so you take away him picking bad players, you take away him over playing his best players and you have him get this young team on the right defensive track...
He might take it, thinking, if Walton gets fired he can slide right in... |
This would be a fantastic move if it somehow happens. Doubtful though. |
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DancingBarry Editor-in-Chief
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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ShowtimeReturns wrote: | I know Luke gets very little love but I thought he coached his best game tonight They were a totally different team the second half |
Agree. Loved the quick hook on Lance when he didn't box out. Really liked that he called out his guys last game to light a fire under them. In the second half tonight, he broke his sub pattern, tightened the rotation and kept guys who were rolling on the floor (props to playing Hart all second half as he earned it). Also props on that stretch of extended run for Chandler.
We also let Beasley go to work tonight with the ball in his hands. Took advantage of bad defenders. Great lob play set up to have Dirk trying to defend Lonzo on a lob dunk on that backscreen.
Finally, also he had some situational subs at the end of the game to get Lonzo out (because of FT shooting)...but also get him back in the game for defensive purposes. So many times this season we haven't done that. |
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HermosaJoe Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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To the defenders of Coach Walton: Whoa, the Lakers won tonight. Congrats. All is forgotten and Walton is a great coach. lol |
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DancingBarry Editor-in-Chief
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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HermosaJoe wrote: | To the defenders of Coach Walton: Whoa, the Lakers won tonight. Congrats. All is forgotten and Walton is a great coach. lol |
Or, you can call him out when he has a bad game (like I did yesterday)... and give him props when he has a good one (like tonight). It's really not that difficult. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | Nobody boxes out consistently. That’s either a failure of the defensive scheme or a failure of the coach holding them accountable for it. |
That's because everyone wants to get them rebound stats. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Great job using only one center at a time. Lol
Good to have Kuz back.
And I'm enjoying Beasley as the backup 4. |
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