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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:48 pm Post subject: Hollywood Hoops: Should Luke Walton's Job Be In Danger with the L.A. Lakers? |
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Hey All,
Latest @hollywood_hoops Ep. 118: Should Luke Walton's Job Be In Danger with the L.A. Lakers? w/@JoshMartinNBA https://player.megaphone.fm/ADL4761606863
Cheers,
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Yes, but only if they have a better candidate in mind BEFORE they fire him...
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Whoever is the Lakers coach should have two priorities:
1. Develop the Lakers youth. This means improvement over time. And if the players just simply aren't that good, identity that so that you can move on from them.
2. Build a playoff ready team. The goal of any Lakers season is a championship and if not a championship, then a deep playoff run. This means installing solid fundamental play. Having both an offensive and defensive gameplan. Get your team to play team basketball. Even if when you don't have the talent to succeed at the top, you should always compete. This team looks lost far too often.
Frankly, Luke doesn't check either box. So he is not a good solution for the Lakers if you want to do #1 or #2. He's just taking up time and space. The sooner the Lakers move on from Luke, the better. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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fire Luke ? I favor of whom? Who is that super coach we
absolutely would get? Or is this fire Luke, then the next guy and the
next, and so on?
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What would a better coach look like for this team? Nothing comes to mind. This team is NOTHING like last years team. Luke has been tasked with incorporating 3 ball dominate players. By ball dominate, I mean players that are best used when they have the ball in their hands either for purposes of scoring or playmaking or both...LeBron, Rondo, and Lance. The best player on the team last year was arguably Julius Randell, and he's gone to make room for LeBron which is well worth it.
I can say I've seen improvement in Lonzo Ball. Big improvement in Kyle Kuzma. Marginal improvement, but improvement nonetheless in Brandon Ingram. Hart has remained even to me.
The biggest surprise is Zubac. What a player he's turned out to be. Getting McGee turned things around a little too.
Add in the injuries to LeBron and Rondo....and now Lonzo Ball. The Lakers have no playmaker. BI is not a playmaker. Luke should be commended for doing as good as anyone else could've done in my opinion.
Blaming Luke for Injuries, poor free-throw shooting, or having to incorporate and coach a brand new team...amounts to nothing more than scapegoating. |
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No coach out there will do that much better and I think Luke’s doing as well as can be expected with injuries to key players and D-League talent.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Glad to hear the FO backing Luke, we needed to take that off the table
for the remainder of the season.
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coaches who don't win are always in danger.
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| Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired.
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All this topic is is purely click bait from sports sites and journalists imo.. There is a tiny slim chance at best he gets fired during the season. The only chance it happens is if things really hit the fan and he gets into it with lebron and they are still losing a ton or something along those lines. There is just no benefit to firing him during the season since there is nobody great to fill his shoes plus there is not time to develop any kind of system or anything anyways this late.
After the season is over all bets are off but even then I just dont know if there are any legitimate special coaches available. I think what really needs to happen is Magic and Rob need to sit down with him and tell him that he needs to get some legit assistants with experience to join his staff. This is the Lakers and we now have Lebron, it's ridiculous to have a young inexperienced coach along with a bunch of mediocre and inexperienced staff as well. Things need to change but it might not need to be a wholesale change unless they have the chance to get some coach they feel is a huge upgrade. |
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| deal wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired. |
Fact of the matter is the squad isn't very good.
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired. |
Fact of the matter is the squad isn't very good. |
When they're not healthy, sure. |
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The only reason to fire Luke is if they've already signed Spo. I mean, why fire Luke just to have someone like Shaw take over?
Luke may not be perfect, but due to a lack of options he's perfect for the Lakers right now ... by default |
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| deal wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired. |
exactly. it is highly unlikely that a great coach somewhere is licking his chops waiting to take over this team.
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| Drifts wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired. |
exactly. it is highly unlikely that a great coach somewhere is licking his chops waiting to take over this team. |
How often does a great, established coach change teams at all? Spo's a great coach and has been in Miami forever, Popovich is a great coach and has been with the Spurs forever ... the only guy I can think of is Doc Rivers. |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired. |
Fact of the matter is the squad isn't very good. |
When they're not healthy, sure. |
Even when healthy.
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| Staccatos wrote: | Whoever is the Lakers coach should have two priorities:
1. Develop the Lakers youth. This means improvement over time. And if the players just simply aren't that good, identity that so that you can move on from them.
2. Build a playoff ready team. The goal of any Lakers season is a championship and if not a championship, then a deep playoff run. This means installing solid fundamental play. Having both an offensive and defensive gameplan. Get your team to play team basketball. Even if when you don't have the talent to succeed at the top, you should always compete. This team looks lost far too often.
Frankly, Luke doesn't check either box. So he is not a good solution for the Lakers if you want to do #1 or #2. He's just taking up time and space. The sooner the Lakers move on from Luke, the better. |
Uhhh, the front office gave luke more vets, that means they will take more time from the kids. you can't both develop the youth when you have this many young players and also push hard for a playoff spot and a deep run.
you can push for SOME of the youth to develop during games and the other guys will have to get G league run, run in practice, and work on their own games.
who have you seen improvements from this season?
ball, ingram, kuz, hart, zubac.
NO they have not all been consistent. they are super young and consistency comes with more time. thats not lukes fault. thats normal.
Before all of these injuries happened for a second time, we were in the middle of the pack in the WCF awaiting a playoff spot.
We all knew we were not talented enough and or consistent(old enough) to actually get to the finals THIS SEASON. there's a reason why the FO has kept a max slot open. we believe we need at least one more superstar vet to get us to the finals with a legit chance at winning it all. we are still on that path. |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | coaches who don't win are always in danger. |
True but with this team? No one is winning anything, PLUS, a great coach is not sitting out there waiting to come to LA to be inevitably fired. |
Fact of the matter is the squad isn't very good. |
When they're not healthy, sure. |
Even when healthy. |
but that would be a lie because we were in the middle of the pack in our conference and in the playoffs until everyone got hurt all at the same time for a 2nd time.
Remember we went thru rondo going down before for an extended period of time. we've gone thru Javale going down for a bit with illness. Kuz..back, i'm probably missing another one. then everyone going down again for extended periods. Bron, Rondo, Zo. thats your 3 best playmakers/floor generals. you aint winning |
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| Yeah, fire Luke. The next coach will surely play better defense, hit threes and make his free throws. We can move the coach to PG behind Rondo, taking care of the injury in that position. Luke doesn't do squat. Can't even hit a layup. |
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| deal wrote: | fire Luke ? I favor of whom? Who is that super coach we
absolutely would get? Or is this fire Luke, then the next guy and the
next, and so on? |
Oh, there are names out there that are the greatest coaches. At least as long as they are not actually coaching the Lakers. Because as soon as you coach the Lakers and loose one game - you should get fired. And we then we can hire the next great coach.
Actually Luke is doing a good job. Most of all he is still flexible enough in his brains to learn himself. Not something I remember from a New York Phil, the greatest of all.
As long as Popovich or Carlisle aren't dying to coach the Lakers this coaching question should not even exist. We can still discuss assistants though. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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give me a break with this ish 
Anyone do articles on basketball and basketball skills...I stay away from the drummed up drama from the soap opera crowd |
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