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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


Sometimes I'm sad that these guys couldn't get one more year to develop together. But then I know Lebron is gonna get these guys to the WCF, so then I smile.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


Very nice. Kuz numbers are impressive especially averaging 5 assists a game.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:25 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


1-2.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


Sometimes I'm sad that these guys couldn't get one more year to develop together. But then I know Lebron is gonna get these guys to the WCF, so then I smile.


We just need Lebron to come back in time where a playoff spot is secured.

Agree with you that WCF is very possible if they can just get in. No one is really scary in the West, Lakers match up well with GSW. Worst matchup for Lakers imo is the Rockets but maybe that will be mitigated by less BS fouls for Harden in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


1-2.


Good news is it could be easily 3-0...just need to withstand opponent’s scoring runs —> next step in their development.

They are proving they can hang for most of the game and even outplaying opponents outside of one bad run that does them in.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:32 am    Post subject:

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epak wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


Sometimes I'm sad that these guys couldn't get one more year to develop together. But then I know Lebron is gonna get these guys to the WCF, so then I smile.


We just need Lebron to come back in time where a playoff spot is secured.

Agree with you that WCF is very possible if they can just get in. No one is really scary in the West, Lakers match up well with GSW. Worst matchup for Lakers imo is the Rockets but maybe that will be mitigated by less BS fouls for Harden in the playoffs.


I actually think playoffs GS is scarier. I feel like they're somewhat coasting, and their depth is an issue. Once Boogie can give them 15 or so minutes a game, it should help.

I have no confidence that CP3 is going to be healthy. We would need to get Houston to a game 7 so Harden is gassed by the 1st quarter
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


1-2.


We're gonna get there, yinomes. We're gonna get there.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


1-2.


Good news is it could be easily 3-0...just need to withstand opponent’s scoring runs —> next step in their development.

They are proving they can hang for most of the game and even outplaying opponents outside of one bad run that does them in.

It's great to see our young guys play, but LBJ/Rondo will be back, and we're shooting for a deep playoff run. Then next summer we're looking at a max FA and possibly trading for another all star.

So I like the #s, but they need to replicate some of that with LBJ playing.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:37 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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epak wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


Sometimes I'm sad that these guys couldn't get one more year to develop together. But then I know Lebron is gonna get these guys to the WCF, so then I smile.


We just need Lebron to come back in time where a playoff spot is secured.

Agree with you that WCF is very possible if they can just get in. No one is really scary in the West, Lakers match up well with GSW. Worst matchup for Lakers imo is the Rockets but maybe that will be mitigated by less BS fouls for Harden in the playoffs.


I actually think playoffs GS is scarier. I feel like they're somewhat coasting, and their depth is an issue. Once Boogie can give them 15 or so minutes a game, it should help.

I have no confidence that CP3 is going to be healthy. We would need to get Houston to a game 7 so Harden is gassed by the 1st quarter


No doubt. GSW still prevails because of their top end talent, just Lakers will give them a run and respectable series imo.

I (bleep) hate playing Houston. Hope they lose early and we get the Harden/CP3 #narratives.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject:

So the core is 1-2 if you don't count the Warriors game they finished, and the Kings game that Ingram choked.

Meanwhile, the player some want to trade them all for is 1-6

We are missing LBJ and Rondo (And JaVale for two of them)

They are missing Mirotic.

No excuse for him to lose that much.

Sign him after 2020 as a free agent.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo, Kuz and Hart have played all 37 games this year. Also KCP. Good job guys!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject:

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The whole young core was fantastic. Normally 1 or 2 play well, but it seemed like everybody played well this game. I don't want to trade the core for AD, I'm pretty attached to them and trading for AD would require most of the core

Best game from Kuzma for ... a while now. He hasn't been playing well lately


AD tonight 41 pts 9 Rebounds 2 assists 4 blocks... guarded 1 position
The core... 44 Pts 17 Rebounds 14 assists 6 steals... guarded 3 positions

As great as AD is... he can only guard one player... Pelicans lost... we won... we have the better record.

And our core will eventually produce 50 points a night, while AD will usually score no more than 30.


I like the core but I would take AD for any two of them in a hot New York second!


Most would do two... but almost all scenarios have three and picks.

Too much for someone who still can't lead his team to victory. He has some nice players... so what's the problem?

You just compared 1 player to 3. AD is better than what we hope any of our young core could ever be. Blaming AD for not winning is like blaming Lebron for his dismal finals record. There is a reason Dr. Buss always built around stars rather than constructing a team of good but not great players.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:44 pm    Post subject:

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LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


Very nice. Kuz numbers are impressive especially averaging 5 assists a game.


If that was Brandon you’d be harping on his 53%TS and overlooking the other positives.

Keep up the good work kids! Should have been 2-1 if not for some poor officiating in Sacramento and letting that dictate how we finished the game.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:13 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
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The Lakers "Core Four" averages in three games without LeBron:

Ball: 17.3 pts, 5.3 rebs, 8 asts, 1 stl (57% TS%)
Hart: 14.7 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.7 asts, 2.7 stls (64.3% TS%)
Ingram: 20 pts, 5.7 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.3 blks (55% TS%)
Kuzma: 25 pts, 8.7 rebs, 5 asts (53% TS%)


https://twitter.com/alexmregla/status/1079801168304300036?s=21


thats amazing. would be awesome to see them all in their prime in Lakers shirts
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject:

Brandon Ingram’s defensive Impact:

As a man defender, he’s becoming very difficult to score against. We all know about the length, but he’s moving his feet better as well. He still has to become a better team defender, reading rotations, screens, anticipating/securing rebounds.

Last 5 games: Opponents are shooting 17/56 (30%) against, him, 15% below their regular averages.

https://stats.nba.com/player/1627742/defense-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&LastNGames=5

Last 3 games: they’re shooting 11/41 (27%) against him, 18% below their season averages.

https://stats.nba.com/player/1627742/defense-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&LastNGames=3

For the season: https://stats.nba.com/player/1627742/defense-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&LastNGames=3
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers recent run of draftees:

Julius Randle
Antonio Brown
Larry Nance
D’Angelo Russell
Ivica Zubac
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart
Thomas Bryant
Moe Wagner
Svi Mykhailiuk
Isaac Bonga

Bonga/Moe/Svi are TBD, but Brown looks like the only “miss”. Quite the string


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:31 am    Post subject:

How have Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma developed this season

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The Los Angeles Lakers young core has gone through the wringer recently. But, with the NBA Trade Deadline now past, we take a look at the development Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma have shown this season.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2019/02/11/los-angeles-lakers-lonzo-ball-brandon-ingram-kyle-kuzma-developed-season/
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