And then his inept FO decisions after that and prior to that are the reason why with leBron the Lakers are neat the 4th worst team in the West, and about to miss the Playoffs for the First time in LeBron's career since 2005.
"Getting LeBron" means nothing if you have no clue what to do with it after or prior.
And? I'm not saying Magic is a good exec.
My argument is Magic has shown he can do one thing: bring in a max free agent. If the $38M we're punting goes to a superstar this summer we're sitting pretty. Magic should get this summer to carry that out.
This is where I come down. We really have no choice in the matter. Once Magic made the Russell trade, we were pretty much pot-committed on this strategy. The following moves, including dumping Nance and Randle, and signing Lebron, just made us even more committed. The showdown is coming this summer.
I will just comment, once again, that "max free agent" and "superstar" are different things. I think you realize this, but I'm dreading the day when Magic gives a max contract to Joe Bob Nobody, and some people start claiming that Magic did what he promised.
From everything we've seen so far, Magic is going for the homerun, not a double.
Everyone knows what he is going for. The problem is he is probably going to get the Lakers a double while tearing the ACL of the franchise in the process desperately reaching for it. That's what worries me. Trading everything for Davis, signing a guy like Cousins to the max, and whatever other terrible move he can come up wtih.
Everyone knows what he is going for. The problem is he is probably going to get the Lakers a double while tearing the ACL of the franchise in the process desperately reaching for it. That's what worries me. Trading everything for Davis, signing a guy like Cousins to the max, and whatever other terrible move he can come up wtih.
This is what worries me, too. In essence, history would be repeating itself.
But I hope that Magic will prove me wrong. I don't have some masochistic desire to see the team wrecked just to prove that Magic's plan was bad.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:38 am Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
SAS blames it on management.
As much as I hate SAS, the man is spot-freakin-on.
No way to sugarcoat this crap of a season.
Yes, I get it, injuries happen but what a crappy roster around Lebron. As much as I am not a Randle lover like some here, he would have contributed a lot more and been there throughout the season, more than KCP and Rondo.
Letting Zu go was the icing on the cake. I hate that trade and no one here can convince me otherwise. Hate it, hate it, hate it. No reason for it.
Whoever is "winging it" in the FO, be it Magic, Pelinka, Buss kids, etc., time to bring in some real experienced people. I would try and bring in Jerry West and other basketball minds. Then I think you need to replace Luke, or at best, his assistants, and put a roster together with shooters, rim protectors and rebounders. Period.
I was at the game with my family last night, and you know what I noticed? Denver has no real big household names, but you know what they have that we don't? They are well coached, good rotations, they have shooters, passers and rebounders. No big star....and here they are in the 2nd spot in the West.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:08 am Post subject:
Where the hell is Magic? What rock is he hiding behind? He deserves the chance to see his plan through but some accountability would be nice. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:20 pm Post subject:
tox wrote:
MJST wrote:
tox wrote:
Magic brought us LeBron.
And then his inept FO decisions after that and prior to that are the reason why with leBron the Lakers are neat the 4th worst team in the West, and about to miss the Playoffs for the First time in LeBron's career since 2005.
"Getting LeBron" means nothing if you have no clue what to do with it after or prior.
And? I'm not saying Magic is a good exec.
My argument is Magic has shown he can do one thing: bring in a max free agent. If the $38M we're punting goes to a superstar this summer we're sitting pretty. Magic should get this summer to carry that out.
I agree he should get this summer, even though the he brought in LBJ argument might be backward. Even if he does though, the concern is that the other stuff that is needed is thus far lacking. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
And then his inept FO decisions after that and prior to that are the reason why with leBron the Lakers are neat the 4th worst team in the West, and about to miss the Playoffs for the First time in LeBron's career since 2005.
"Getting LeBron" means nothing if you have no clue what to do with it after or prior.
And? I'm not saying Magic is a good exec.
My argument is Magic has shown he can do one thing: bring in a max free agent. If the $38M we're punting goes to a superstar this summer we're sitting pretty. Magic should get this summer to carry that out.
This is where I come down. We really have no choice in the matter. Once Magic made the Russell trade, we were pretty much pot-committed on this strategy. The following moves, including dumping Nance and Randle, and signing Lebron, just made us even more committed. The showdown is coming this summer.
I will just comment, once again, that "max free agent" and "superstar" are different things. I think you realize this, but I'm dreading the day when Magic gives a max contract to Joe Bob Nobody, and some people start claiming that Magic did what he promised.
From everything we've seen so far, Magic is going for the homerun, not a double.
Everyone knows what he is going for. The problem is he is probably going to get the Lakers a double while tearing the ACL of the franchise in the process desperately reaching for it. That's what worries me. Trading everything for Davis, signing a guy like Cousins to the max, and whatever other terrible move he can come up wtih.
To be fair, you came up with those 2 horrible moves on your own. No one really knows what he offered for AD, and he hasn't signed Cousins to the max either. He didn't even sign Cousins this year for cheap when he could have, so maybe we should wait till an actual trade/signing happens before we attack him?
Everyone knows what he is going for. The problem is he is probably going to get the Lakers a double while tearing the ACL of the franchise in the process desperately reaching for it. That's what worries me. Trading everything for Davis, signing a guy like Cousins to the max, and whatever other terrible move he can come up wtih.
This is what worries me, too. In essence, history would be repeating itself.
But I hope that Magic will prove me wrong. I don't have some masochistic desire to see the team wrecked just to prove that Magic's plan was bad.
This season has been bad, but it's within the range of what I expected after the free agent signings. I thought we'd be a bubble playoff team that could finish anywhere between 6 and 10th, depending on injuries and the development of the young guys.
I always saw this as a placeholder season, and next offseason is what would matter.
And then his inept FO decisions after that and prior to that are the reason why with leBron the Lakers are neat the 4th worst team in the West, and about to miss the Playoffs for the First time in LeBron's career since 2005.
"Getting LeBron" means nothing if you have no clue what to do with it after or prior.
And? I'm not saying Magic is a good exec.
My argument is Magic has shown he can do one thing: bring in a max free agent. If the $38M we're punting goes to a superstar this summer we're sitting pretty. Magic should get this summer to carry that out.
This is where I come down. We really have no choice in the matter. Once Magic made the Russell trade, we were pretty much pot-committed on this strategy. The following moves, including dumping Nance and Randle, and signing Lebron, just made us even more committed. The showdown is coming this summer.
I will just comment, once again, that "max free agent" and "superstar" are different things. I think you realize this, but I'm dreading the day when Magic gives a max contract to Joe Bob Nobody, and some people start claiming that Magic did what he promised.
Yeah I agree. I use those two interchangeably but you're right, Khris Middleton and Tobias Harris don't get it done.
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