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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:03 am Post subject: Lakers are 15-8 when LBJ. Ball. Ingram. Play. |
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Interesting.
Shame so many injuries.
Say what you want.
But on Xmas day this team was 4th and beating the Warriors.
The fact that the teams most valuable players
Only played 23 games together
Is crazy
I’d like to see us sign a top free agent
Package Kuzma, draft pick and change for a proven vet
Give it another go next season. |
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daytripper Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:02 am Post subject: |
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The problem is Ball, BI, and a rapidly aging LBJ could all go thru injuries again. Even if the Lakers bring them all back maybe they are only healthy to play 23 games together again next season?
In this league young players that are still physically underdeveloped tend to be injury prone. Older players on the wrong side of 30 tend to be injury prone. It's just a bad mix which many of us could see before they signed Lebron.
Honestly in hindsight signing a 34 year old Lebron to play with a bunch of 21 year old kids and crazy old vets on 1 year contracts just seems ridiculous. They better sign a legit star in their prime this summer or it could only get much worse. |
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lonzobryant Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:07 am Post subject: |
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And what's the record with Lonzo, BI, Kuzma and LeBron? |
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RG73 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:23 am Post subject: |
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lonzobryant wrote: | And what's the record with Lonzo, BI, Kuzma and LeBron? |
13-5 when all 4 started. |
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lonzobryant Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:44 am Post subject: |
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RG73 wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | And what's the record with Lonzo, BI, Kuzma and LeBron? |
13-5 when all 4 started. |
Better winning percentage than just BI, Bron, and Zo.
Not sure why Kuzma is getting singled out to getting traded here. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Damn, only 23 games together. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:11 am Post subject: |
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lonzobryant wrote: | RG73 wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | And what's the record with Lonzo, BI, Kuzma and LeBron? |
13-5 when all 4 started. |
Better winning percentage than just BI, Bron, and Zo.
Not sure why Kuzma is getting singled out to getting traded here. |
Only because of the 4 (LBJ. Ingram. Ball. Kuz.)
Kuzma’s skillset is the easiest to replace IMO |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Second year both BI and Lonzo have missed over 20+ games. Not a good trend. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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lakers4life78 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:25 am Post subject: |
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You can’t just overlook injuries. Maybe lebron had an old player injury. But ball isn’t on the court enough and Ingram just got hit with a potentially career altering diagnosis. _________________ 17 time World Champions |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:33 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Second year both BI and Lonzo have missed over 20+ games. Not a good trend. |
Yeah especially when guys like Tatum, Fox have been pretty healthy. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:38 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Second year both BI and Lonzo have missed over 20+ games. Not a good trend. |
Damn, have any of the other top players in their drafts missed that much time? _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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I get nervous everytime BI or Zo have reached a new level of play. Seems like that's when the injuries always hit. I just hope BI is ok long term. His trade value is now zero and Lonzo's value was always lower than it should've been. I don't think we have any choice but to roll with this core and hope a FA wants to join them. That was my preferred plan anyway. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:55 am Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | Damn, only 23 games together. |
Brutal. Guys never had any continuity. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:19 am Post subject: |
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What's our opponents combined winning percentage in those games? I would think it would be low. Being healthy is as important as playing well. That amount of games is not really enough to make any definitive conclusions. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:19 am Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Second year both BI and Lonzo have missed over 20+ games. Not a good trend. |
Damn, have any of the other top players in their drafts missed that much time? |
Simmons missed his first year. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:21 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Second year both BI and Lonzo have missed over 20+ games. Not a good trend. |
Damn, have any of the other top players in their drafts missed that much time? |
Simmons missed his first year. |
Embiid missed 2 years
Fultz missed just about the whole year
Those are 3 number 1 picks |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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RG73 wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | And what's the record with Lonzo, BI, Kuzma and LeBron? |
13-5 when all 4 started. |
Pretty nice.
What could have been... |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers are 15-8 when LBJ. Ball. Ingram. Play. |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Interesting.
Shame so many injuries.
Say what you want.
But on Xmas day this team was 4th and beating the Warriors.
The fact that the teams most valuable players
Only played 23 games together
Is crazy
I’d like to see us sign a top free agent
Package Kuzma, draft pick and change for a proven vet
Give it another go next season. | but yet someone tried to tell me it wasnt the injuries. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | Damn, only 23 games together. | But injuries dont have anything to do with... |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | Damn, only 23 games together. | But injuries dont have anything to do with... |
That isn't really an excuse though. It's important to be healthy. |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | LandsbergerRules wrote: | Damn, only 23 games together. | But injuries dont have anything to do with... |
That isn't really an excuse though. It's important to be healthy. |
Yeah we should just stop getting injured. I have no clue why we haven't thought of that yet! |
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MJST Retired Number
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lakers4life78 wrote: | You can’t just overlook injuries. |
No, but good teams have had injuries this year and still did far better than us.
Brooklyn and Houston have all had terrible injury years. But look where they currently are, and look where we currently are. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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misterchipmunk Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers are 15-8 when LBJ. Ball. Ingram. Play. |
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splashmtn wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Interesting.
Shame so many injuries.
Say what you want.
But on Xmas day this team was 4th and beating the Warriors.
The fact that the teams most valuable players
Only played 23 games together
Is crazy
I’d like to see us sign a top free agent
Package Kuzma, draft pick and change for a proven vet
Give it another go next season. | but yet someone tried to tell me it wasnt the injuries. |
Nobody said that. Everyone here agrees that injuries are part of the reason. But not the number 1 reason like that thread you started a couple of days ago. Stop BSing dude |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | lakers4life78 wrote: | You can’t just overlook injuries. |
No, but good teams have had injuries this year and still did far better than us.
Brooklyn and Houston have all had terrible injury years. But look where they currently are, and look where we currently are. |
Houston has two stars on the same team. we have one. come on now. thats is not an apples to apples comparison at all.
and did you notice the season aint over and we've lost two guys, two main cogs to season ending injuries. two of them. does BK have that same issue? NO.
give me an apples to apples comparison then we can talk until then be honest. It's the injuries. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers are 15-8 when LBJ. Ball. Ingram. Play. |
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misterchipmunk wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Interesting.
Shame so many injuries.
Say what you want.
But on Xmas day this team was 4th and beating the Warriors.
The fact that the teams most valuable players
Only played 23 games together
Is crazy
I’d like to see us sign a top free agent
Package Kuzma, draft pick and change for a proven vet
Give it another go next season. | but yet someone tried to tell me it wasnt the injuries. |
Nobody said that. Everyone here agrees that injuries are part of the reason. But not the number 1 reason like that thread you started a couple of days ago. Stop BSing dude | how the heck is it not the #1 reason when you only have 20 something games played with your main guys? you aint winning like that out west. not going to happen. we dont have the luxury yet of having 2 stars where one goes down and another can go into superman mode and save the team. remember when shaq use to get hurt and young kobe would start to go off and carry the team? we dont have that yet.
we just lost 2 guys to season ending injuries. TWO main guys. you're not about to recover from that. that is ...the #1 reason. you guys just like being mad at people so you can point a finger at someone. you really can't be angry at the injury bug. he/she doesnt actually exist. |
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