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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:54 am    Post subject: College Admissions Scandal

This story is breaking right now. For a charitable contribution, you could get your kid admitted to schools like UCLA or Stanford as a bogus athlete.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-education-cheating/u-s-charges-dozens-in-college-admissions-fraud-scheme-idUSKBN1QT1WJ

At the same time, the former Penn basketball coach (now a Celtics assistant) testifies that he took $300k to get someone's kid into Wharton.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26234766/ex-penn-coach-allen-says-took-300k-bribe
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:58 am    Post subject:

People rich enough to bribe, but not rich enough to buy Yale an international airport.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject:

Undergrad studies only helps you for grad/doctorate program application. Maybe the networking part is worth it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject:

I just assumed this was going on all the time and everyone knew about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:09 am    Post subject:

It’s hard to get worked up about this.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:47 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
I just assumed this was going on all the time and everyone knew about it.


yeah, I never thought you had to go through this much trouble....bribing coaches of non-revenue sports to claim your kid is a recruit?.....I always assumed you could just flat out bribe the school administrators if you were wealthy.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:50 am    Post subject:

it may be wrong....but I am a little impressed that the Singer guy was able to identify this market, and then develop a system to make money exploiting it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject:

is it just me, or does it almost seem automatic that if there is a major scandal in college.....it will involve USC?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
is it just me, or does it almost seem automatic that if there is a major scandal in college.....it will involve USC?


true, true.

I'm with others who aren't surprised. I always assumed rich people had that kind of pull but I guess you no longer have to contribute huge sums to alumni associations anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject:

in a way i wish my parents did that for me
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject:

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It’s hard to get worked up about this.
just because we're used to the abuse doesnt mean we should just go "oh well" and throw our hands up in the air.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
is it just me, or does it almost seem automatic that if there is a major scandal in college.....it will involve USC?



It’s not just you. In the exchange with Lori Laughlin’s husband Mossimo Giannull, it seems these type of opportunities weren’t out of the ordinary for the USC athletic director at the time (2016). Even if they didn’t pay $1milllion, they still ponied up $500,000 to get into... U$C.

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CW-1 replied: “Best to keep [the USC Athletic Director] out of it. When I met with him a year ago about [your daughter] he felt you were good for a million plus.” GIANNULLI responded, “HAH!!”


^This was from page 89 of the complaint.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1142876/download
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:13 am    Post subject:

Hypothetically I may possibly have known a few education consultants who provided rigorous SAT/ACT prep, interview prep, and maybe possibly some very thorough personal essay editing for a healthy annual fee. These hypothetical consultants may have had very high success rates in college placements.

If only those hypothetical kids' parents knew they could have just bribed college coaches and test proctors.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:46 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
I just assumed this was going on all the time and everyone knew about it.


They went about it in the stupidest way possible -- no wonder they needed to bribe the school, they must have known the quality of the genes they were passing along...

Jokes aside, everyone knows the proper way to do this is to give a large donation to the school and remind the school administrators -- in person -- that you'd be happy to continue donating to such an excellent institution, especially if you could proudly declare yourself as the parent of an alumnus. You don't bribe soccer coaches, you effing dolts.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:52 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Hypothetically I may possibly have known a few education consultants who provided rigorous SAT/ACT prep, interview prep, and maybe possibly some very thorough personal essay editing for a healthy annual fee. These hypothetical consultants may have had very high success rates in college placements.

If only those hypothetical kids' parents knew they could have just bribed college coaches and test proctors.


Sounds a lot like the hypothetical life coaches that wealthy kids at my high school allegedly hired
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
is it just me, or does it almost seem automatic that if there is a major scandal in college.....it will involve USC?


Yep. I know the USC water polo because my daughter used to train with him over her summer breaks. I wasn't surprised when I say SC was involved.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:06 pm    Post subject:

Cutheon wrote:
ocho wrote:
I just assumed this was going on all the time and everyone knew about it.


They went about it in the stupidest way possible -- no wonder they needed to bribe the school, they must have known the quality of the genes they were passing along...

Jokes aside, everyone knows the proper way to do this is to give a large donation to the school and remind the school administrators -- in person -- that you'd be happy to continue donating to such an excellent institution, especially if you could proudly declare yourself as the parent of an alumnus. You don't bribe soccer coaches, you effing dolts.


They weren't rich enough to get a building named after them.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:15 pm    Post subject:

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Cutheon wrote:
ocho wrote:
I just assumed this was going on all the time and everyone knew about it.


They went about it in the stupidest way possible -- no wonder they needed to bribe the school, they must have known the quality of the genes they were passing along...

Jokes aside, everyone knows the proper way to do this is to give a large donation to the school and remind the school administrators -- in person -- that you'd be happy to continue donating to such an excellent institution, especially if you could proudly declare yourself as the parent of an alumnus. You don't bribe soccer coaches, you effing dolts.


They weren't rich enough to get a building named after them.


Doesn't take that much, only a couple million. Jared Kushner got in after daddy ponied up 2.5 million -- and if Harvard wanted, they could have easily taken that family for a lot more. My guess is $1 million properly donated would go a long, long way...

and, while 1m is obviously a lot, these dolts collectively paid over TWENTY FIVE to the Cooperating Witness-1 over 7 years (main cog that organized the scheme)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:48 pm    Post subject:

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in what agents code-named “Operation Varsity Blues.”


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:57 pm    Post subject:

Cutheon wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
ocho wrote:
I just assumed this was going on all the time and everyone knew about it.


They went about it in the stupidest way possible -- no wonder they needed to bribe the school, they must have known the quality of the genes they were passing along...

Jokes aside, everyone knows the proper way to do this is to give a large donation to the school and remind the school administrators -- in person -- that you'd be happy to continue donating to such an excellent institution, especially if you could proudly declare yourself as the parent of an alumnus. You don't bribe soccer coaches, you effing dolts.


They weren't rich enough to get a building named after them.


Doesn't take that much, only a couple million. Jared Kushner got in after daddy ponied up 2.5 million -- and if Harvard wanted, they could have easily taken that family for a lot more. My guess is $1 million properly donated would go a long, long way...

and, while 1m is obviously a lot, these dolts collectively paid over TWENTY FIVE to the Cooperating Witness-1 over 7 years (main cog that organized the scheme)


The brokers and coaches found a way to eliminate the middle man (i.e. the university) and collect some of that money themselves.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:10 pm    Post subject:

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adkindo wrote:
is it just me, or does it almost seem automatic that if there is a major scandal in college.....it will involve USC?


Yep. I know the USC water polo because my daughter used to train with him over her summer breaks. I wasn't surprised when I say SC was involved.


I'm pretty surprised about it on this one. If you can fill out the application and your check clears, you can get into USC.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:11 pm    Post subject:

See now this is a celeb related scandal I can enjoy because it doesn't involve someone being raped or possibly killed.

I can't wait for the Full House edition episode of Danny giving Aunt Becky a talk about how wrong she was for all this with the lesson learning music in the background.
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splashmtn wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
It’s hard to get worked up about this.
just because we're used to the abuse doesnt mean we should just go "oh well" and throw our hands up in the air.


Wait, who was abused? Kids getting into colleges when they probably don’t belong is hardly one of the great evils we face today.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:38 pm    Post subject:

Trump just declared a state of emergency at SAT test spots through out the country
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:29 pm    Post subject:

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Trump just declared a state of emergency at SAT test spots through out the country


Did we get ahold of his scores???
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