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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:52 pm Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
LakerLanny wrote:
Just watched a couple of flicks on the way home from Costa Rica (<highly recommended)
Bad Times At The El Royale
A really strange quirky movie but overall I liked it.
I thought John Hamm was very good in it, I like how he is reinventing himself after Mad Men.
Anyone else see that one?
The second one I saw is the "new" Star Is Born.
I was a big fan of the 1970's version of the film. I had heard some negative things about this one, but I liked it overall even though I thought it could have been 30 minutes shorter with less Gaga-Cooper kissing scenes but other than that it was good.
Gaga was adequate, I give her credit as that was a major role with little experience. Bradley Cooper I thought was very good, he is underrated as an actor in my opinion. But I agree with the poster above that perhaps his direction of the movie could have been better.
I liked Bad Times. After Pulp Fiction came out in '94 there were a bunch of Tarantino imitators who made films that ranged from total dreck like 8 Heads In A Duffel Bag to reasonable like What To Do In Denver When You're Dead. Bad Times is the spiritual succesor to those mid-90s Pulp Fiction wannabes, but actually good.
Go was a Pulp clone that actually worked for me.
Good pull. That was very Tarantino-y without the totally excessive violence (some, but nothing like Marvin getting his face blown off).
Melissa McCarthy actually makes a brief cameo, as well.
Good pull and good summation. Go was a blast that had that novelette style of story telling but did so in a fun and unpretentious way. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
The best films were made in the 70's. However, 1997 - 2007 is, imho, the greatest decade in the history of film.
I'll take your answers off air.
I don't know that I agree, but watch A Clockwork Orange on Netflix now for one of the truly great, truly surreal, truly timelessly vicious films ever made.
Both Godfather flicks were in the 70's, of course.
Deer Hunter, The Conversation and Apocalypse Now, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, every Hal Ashby and Robert Altman flick...
It's my favorite film decade without even having to leave American soil.
Also adding Barbara Loden's criminally underrated Wanda, which is getting the Criterion treatment next month.
Seriously check out Wanda _________________ Under New Management
Just watched a couple of flicks on the way home from Costa Rica (<highly recommended)
Bad Times At The El Royale
A really strange quirky movie but overall I liked it.
I thought John Hamm was very good in it, I like how he is reinventing himself after Mad Men.
Anyone else see that one?
The second one I saw is the "new" Star Is Born.
I was a big fan of the 1970's version of the film. I had heard some negative things about this one, but I liked it overall even though I thought it could have been 30 minutes shorter with less Gaga-Cooper kissing scenes but other than that it was good.
Gaga was adequate, I give her credit as that was a major role with little experience. Bradley Cooper I thought was very good, he is underrated as an actor in my opinion. But I agree with the poster above that perhaps his direction of the movie could have been better.
I liked Bad Times. After Pulp Fiction came out in '94 there were a bunch of Tarantino imitators who made films that ranged from total dreck like 8 Heads In A Duffel Bag to reasonable like What To Do In Denver When You're Dead. Bad Times is the spiritual succesor to those mid-90s Pulp Fiction wannabes, but actually good.
Go was a Pulp clone that actually worked for me.
Good pull. That was very Tarantino-y without the totally excessive violence (some, but nothing like Marvin getting his face blown off).
Melissa McCarthy actually makes a brief cameo, as well.
Good pull and good summation. Go was a blast that had that novelette style of story telling but did so in a fun and unpretentious way.
A subthread for underrated/forgotten 90s indies would be interesting.
Once Were Warriors, Zero Effect, The Last Supper, Trespass, and Buffalo 66 come to mind. I was talking to a younger film student a few weeks back, and he had no clue Leaving Las Vegas existed, so that's another one.
Oh, and indie legend John Sayles was on his game in the 90s: Lonestar, City of Hope, Men with Guns, and Limbo were all wonderful, under the radar gems. _________________ Under New Management
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon. _________________ Under New Management
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon.
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:00 pm Post subject:
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon.
I really liked Mud. I don't know if I'd call it a great movie, I need to rewatch it to reassess it. But I do recall being thoroughly moved by that one.
Academy Award nominated foreign film Shoplifters and Award winning documentary Free Solo are now streaming on Hulu. _________________ Under New Management
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon.
I really liked Mud. I don't know if I'd call it a great movie, I need to rewatch it to reassess it. But I do recall being thoroughly moved by that one.
I liked Mud, as well. I need to rewatch it before it leaves Hulu. Everything Nichols does feels close to something great, but there's always something missing. There feels like a disconnect between his technical prowess/slickness and the smaller, intimate focus of his narratives. That's a poor way to articulate it, but maybe a focused rewatch of Mud might shake loose some clearer observations.
ETA: you deleted some great 90s hidden gems suggestions Man Bites Dog in particular. _________________ Under New Management
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Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Love it, and also in need of a rewatch. Manhunter and his freshman effort Thief has to be one of the best one-two punch combos to start a directorial career in the last 50 years. _________________ Under New Management
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52656 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:51 am Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
One of my favorite movies from the '80's and William Peterson at his best. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon.
I really liked Mud. I don't know if I'd call it a great movie, I need to rewatch it to reassess it. But I do recall being thoroughly moved by that one.
I liked Mud, as well. I need to rewatch it before it leaves Hulu. Everything Nichols does feels close to something great, but there's always something missing. There feels like a disconnect between his technical prowess/slickness and the smaller, intimate focus of his narratives. That's a poor way to articulate it, but maybe a focused rewatch of Mud might shake loose some clearer observations.
ETA: you deleted some great 90s hidden gems suggestions Man Bites Dog in particular.
I kept re-editing it since I couldn’t make up my mind lol, so I decided to junk it. But yes, Man Bites Dog, Slacker and Night on Earth are three “obscure” indies from the 90s I’d recommend.
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Love it, and also in need of a rewatch. Manhunter and his freshman effort Thief has to be one of the best one-two punch combos to start a directorial career in the last 50 years.
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Great flick; this one and Thief (another awesome Mann directed gem) are two of my go-to’s for gritty 80s crime. I’d throw To Live and Die in LA and Burning Mississippi (even though it takes place during the 60s) in there as well.
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90306 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:02 am Post subject:
panamaniac wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Great flick; this one and Thief (another awesome Mann directed gem) are two of my go-to’s for gritty 80s crime. I’d throw To Live and Die in LA and Burning Mississippi (even though it takes place during the 60s) in there as well.
Manhunter and TLADILA are probably the two movies that set my taste in film. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Yeah, that one's good. Mitch Kupchak played Francis Dollarhyde. He did a great job. He was back from the ACL tear by 86, but Riles allowed him to film on practice days since he wasn't playing much anyway.
Omar Little wrote:
TLADILA
Wang Chung. Which description best applies? Awesome or rad?
I love that movie, posted about it on Page 1 of the thread. LA Noir. Still a bit obscure, but it set some conventions that were used by other movies of its ilk. It's the movie that Lethal Weapon wanted to be. The studio didn't want the lead killed at the end, so they filmed an alt scene of the two partners in Alaska and it was so frighteningly lame that they were then happy to accept the initial idea. Alt scene is an Easter egg on a premium DVD from the past. I've never seen anything like that.
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Love it, and also in need of a rewatch. Manhunter and his freshman effort Thief has to be one of the best one-two punch combos to start a directorial career in the last 50 years.
The Insider is a top 20 movie for me.
Somehow neglected despite its brilliance. That American Beauty was so praised at the time while The Insider was acknowledged and forgotten was a cinematic injustice that hasn't been rectified despite American Beauty's fall in estimation.
As an aside, Miami Vice is on Netflix and deserves a rewatch and reappraisal _________________ Under New Management
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon.
I really liked Mud. I don't know if I'd call it a great movie, I need to rewatch it to reassess it. But I do recall being thoroughly moved by that one.
I liked Mud, as well. I need to rewatch it before it leaves Hulu. Everything Nichols does feels close to something great, but there's always something missing. There feels like a disconnect between his technical prowess/slickness and the smaller, intimate focus of his narratives. That's a poor way to articulate it, but maybe a focused rewatch of Mud might shake loose some clearer observations.
ETA: you deleted some great 90s hidden gems suggestions Man Bites Dog in particular.
I kept re-editing it since I couldn’t make up my mind lol, so I decided to junk it. But yes, Man Bites Dog, Slacker and Night on Earth are three “obscure” indies from the 90s I’d recommend.
Agreed on all three.
Some other smaller or now forgotten 90s flicks that I really liked that come to mind:
New Jack City
Menace II Society
Boomerang
Fresh
U-Turn
Serial Mom
Where the Day Takes You
Velvet Goldmine
Croupier
Underground
After Life
The Opposite of Sex
The General
Wild Things
Dark City
Gods and Monsters
The Ice Storm
The Cure
The Spanish Prisoner
Eve's Bayou
The Butcher Boy
The Sweet Hereafter
Breakdown
Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion
In the Company of Men
Clockwatchers
Bound
Mother
Rosetta
Freeway
Waiting for Guffman
Flirting with Disaster
The Birdcage
Suburbia
Citizen Ruth
Richard III
The Crossing Guard
Party Girl
To Die For
The Doom Generation
Crumb
Once Were Warriors
Barcelona
Surviving the Game
Six Degrees of Separation
Romeo is Bleeding
The Blue Kite
The Vanishing
Deep Cover
White Men Can't Jump
Prospero's Books
The Rocketeer
Nothing But Trouble
Pump Up The Volume
Benny & Joon
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Great flick; this one and Thief (another awesome Mann directed gem) are two of my go-to’s for gritty 80s crime. I’d throw To Live and Die in LA and Burning Mississippi (even though it takes place during the 60s) in there as well.
Manhunter and TLADILA are probably the two movies that set my taste in film.
For my money, TLADILA is William Friedkin's best movie.
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90306 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:22 am Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Shout out to Jeff Nichols and his impressive filmography to date. He hasn't broken through yet with his truly great picture - though Take Shelter feels close - I'd bet on him to make at least one masterpiece in his career, probably starring Michael Shannon.
I really liked Mud. I don't know if I'd call it a great movie, I need to rewatch it to reassess it. But I do recall being thoroughly moved by that one.
I liked Mud, as well. I need to rewatch it before it leaves Hulu. Everything Nichols does feels close to something great, but there's always something missing. There feels like a disconnect between his technical prowess/slickness and the smaller, intimate focus of his narratives. That's a poor way to articulate it, but maybe a focused rewatch of Mud might shake loose some clearer observations.
ETA: you deleted some great 90s hidden gems suggestions Man Bites Dog in particular.
I kept re-editing it since I couldn’t make up my mind lol, so I decided to junk it. But yes, Man Bites Dog, Slacker and Night on Earth are three “obscure” indies from the 90s I’d recommend.
Agreed on all three.
Some other smaller or now forgotten 90s flicks that I really liked that come to mind:
New Jack City
Menace II Society
Boomerang
Fresh
U-Turn
Serial Mom
Where the Day Takes You
Velvet Goldmine
Croupier
Underground
After Life
The Opposite of Sex
The General
Wild Things
Dark City
Gods and Monsters
The Ice Storm
The Cure
The Spanish Prisoner
Eve's Bayou
The Butcher Boy
The Sweet Hereafter
Breakdown
Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion
In the Company of Men
Clockwatchers
Bound
Mother
Rosetta
Freeway
Waiting for Guffman
Flirting with Disaster
The Birdcage
Suburbia
Citizen Ruth
Richard III
The Crossing Guard
Party Girl
To Die For
The Doom Generation
Crumb
Once Were Warriors
Barcelona
Surviving the Game
Six Degrees of Separation
Romeo is Bleeding
The Blue Kite
The Vanishing
Deep Cover
White Men Can't Jump
Prospero's Books
The Rocketeer
Nothing But Trouble
Pump Up The Volume
Benny & Joon
Benny and Joon was always fun for me, because I lived just down the street from the two little diners (Ferguson’s and The Milk Bottle) where they shot several scenes, and Joon’s home was 3 blocks from my in law’s house. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52656 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:49 am Post subject:
panamaniac wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Watching Mann’s unrecognized masterpiece Manhunter for the umpteenth time. What amazing control of his narrative and the viewer’s every observation, thought, and feeling.
Great flick; this one and Thief (another awesome Mann directed gem) are two of my go-to’s for gritty 80s crime. I’d throw To Live and Die in LA and Burning Mississippi (even though it takes place during the 60s) in there as well.
Manhunter and TLADILA are probably the two movies that set my taste in film.
For my money, TLADILA is William Friedkin's best movie.
The French Connection for me. It's one of the films that spurred my interest in film editing. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Haha. I always thought that the Judge looked like Red Auerbach and that Red also had parts missing. Judge after jamming with Digital Underground: "You SUURRRE are a gaggle of muscians, suure enough!" Favorite part is when the Judge is trying to take a bite of his hot dog filled with slop.
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