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adkindo
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:36 am Post subject:

danzag wrote:

Good for Lonzo to get the (bleep) out of this dumpster fire called BBB.
Waste your time and money on more important things.

if this stuff is true, that he is separating from the family business, and going to surround himself with people and companies that know what they are doing.....and more importantly doing it without bothering the athlete.....I am much more interested in seeing how Ball looks next year.

Sign with Nike, do a McDonalds commercial....drink some Body Armour in public......collect the checks and play basketball. It is a time proven formula for success on the court and in the bank account.....and if possible, make your baby's mother content. No off court distractions.....or as little as possible.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:45 am Post subject:

adkindo wrote:

danzag wrote:

Good for Lonzo to get the (bleep) out of this dumpster fire called BBB.
Waste your time and money on more important things.

Yeah, going to pick me up some Zos if he signs with Nike.
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:45 pm Post subject:

Saw that his bother Melo responded to his IG post. Can’t seem to find his comment anymore, but it was something like “thanks for getting us out, love ya bro.” I take that as confirmation they are definitely out of BBB. Hope he starts wearing them Kobe’s!

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:51 pm Post subject:

LonzoLegend2 wrote:

Trade Zo and our top 10 pick for #2 and take Morant if he declares.

Morant
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Wait, your screen name though.
I'm super confused.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:17 pm Post subject:

I am unreasonably hyped for next season Zo.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:06 pm Post subject:

levon wrote:

I am unreasonably hyped for next season Zo.

Same.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:24 pm Post subject:

levon wrote:

I am unreasonably hyped for next season Zo.

Hype is completely reasonable. Dude is going to have a healthy offseason, no business distractions and we saw him getting better and better right before the injury. Sky’s the limit for Zo. We see how valuable he is just based on the way the team plays and our win percentage.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:47 pm Post subject:

Lonzo will become a star next year. Maybe not the star we need, but the star we deserve.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:55 pm Post subject:

Do not trade Zo.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:08 pm Post subject:

adkindo wrote:

danzag wrote:

Good for Lonzo to get the (bleep) out of this dumpster fire called BBB.
Waste your time and money on more important things.

This. Focus and achieve your potential as a player. Plenty of time to venture into the other things as your b-ball career winds down.
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:10 pm Post subject:

He wasn't able to work on his lower body last summer. That will make a big difference in him staying healthy.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject:

NBALakerLegends wrote:

levon wrote:

I am unreasonably hyped for next season Zo.

A healthy Lonzo is going to do great things.

This team will be pretty darn good if he can just play an entire season. 75-82 games.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:12 pm Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:

NBALakerLegends wrote:

levon wrote:

I am unreasonably hyped for next season Zo.

A healthy Lonzo is going to do great things.

This team will be pretty darn good if he can just play an entire season. 75-82 games.

Yep.
A healthy Lonzo without the distractions of BBB.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:18 pm Post subject:

Obviously he's gonna do what's best for himself, but I'd honestly be a little disappointed if he just signed with Nike or one of the other shoemakers. I loved the idea of his family business being his own thing, not being tied to any particular brand, and empowering players to take their business and branding into their own hands. It's not even about the money, it's about having complete control over your won enterprise and doing things your way without the red tape of corporate sponsors.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:00 pm Post subject:

adkindo wrote:

danzag wrote:

Good for Lonzo to get the (bleep) out of this dumpster fire called BBB.
Waste your time and money on more important things.

maybe he is going that route. but its real funny how fans love to place athletes where they want them to be placed so they hope they think only about what they want them to think about. but only thinking about basketball means you aint keeping your eye on your funds either. which means, you can end up getting taken again. sorry this is a business and you are a business. might as well call yourself an independent contractor at this point. you do need to focus on hoops but also on the business side enough to watch your own money. thats life. now do i need you in every meeting? NO. was he in every meeting with bbb? NOPE. he was playing ball until he got hurt and over the summer. when he was still hurt.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:12 pm Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:

tony wrote:

splashmtn wrote:

tony wrote:

Watching their reality show, you could just sense he was a yes man/hype man and had bad intentions. Only a matter of time, this is why you have to separate family/friends from business sometimes.

tony, cut it out. you couldnt sense a darn thing. I triple dare you to post a quote from the past while you were watching that show where you said something like this. i 'll be waiting for those quotes.

hindsight is always 20/20. you dont have to stretch it. the close family friend darn near a brother to lavar and darn near an extra uncle to the ball brothers. its a sad day. but this has happened to a lot of your favorite players. by the way did you know why old man kareem came back to play for the lakers? go look it up.

what happened to tim duncan? go look it up. on and on again in every sport and other entertainers you hear these stories. that means there are more stories you never here that are happening out there.

Dude, get off Lavar's dick. He was entertaining at first and he raised some solid kids but he is clearly living his dream through his kids.

Read the article yourself. At the end of the day this falls on Lavar. He didn't do his due diligence, he allowed a convicted criminal who had a history of this to be his right hand man, and in the end he screwed over another one of his son.

Starched. And of course he didn't reaad the article.

didnt read the article? has nothing to do with my comment. tony is lying about sensing this. no you didnt. because if you did we could find said post some where. what you guys did sense was being haters of that guy named loud mouth lavar. therefore you Hoped and prayed for his downfall and his separation with the player you want to only concentrate on basketball. you didnt no .... stop it.

just because the close is right this time doesnt mean you knew a darn thing. you just hated lavar like a lot people for his loud mouth. thats it and thats all.

crazy lavar is the only reason zo was as good as he was up til UCLA. we probably would've never seen zo as a nba player if it wasnt for lavar. that is facts. he built those kids from scratch. set up the entire thing from scratch. when something like that happens. he gets the right to run his mouth and be loud even if we dont like it. he even gets to start BBB. which was doing just fine without Zo making a dime. oh yall forgot about that. BBB was selling shirts out the trunk well before zo became a NBA player. BBB kept the lights on. Or lavar kept the lights on. him and Tina ball. Tina and mr BBB is how the ball brothers could afford to play so much basketball that they became this good to begin with. the reason they got that notoriety is because he setup scenarios for them to shine. sure they had to put in the work(which he pushed them to do). but this aint your usual daddy coming out of no where to leach off the nba kid. nope. this dude lavar at worse should darn near get half of what Zo and melo and the middle ball gets early on because he built them. this aint a normal situation.

lavar has been their dad, their provider, their trainer, their agent, their coach, their AAU coach, their manager, their marketing and promotions. all the way up until recently when he had to settle down and take care of melo and get him settled in.

Should lavar have worked with the family friend alen? Nope but thats in hindsight. do you know how many of your favorite nba players have hired their friends or dudes from their old neighborhoods that have had sketchy past. and sometimes it works and other times it doesnt. again, dudes that have no prior history of stealing have still ended up stealing from these athletes and entertainers. there is no way to guarantee that you wont get robbed. you have to trust someone with your money at some point because you have to do your job to entertain the masses and fly city to city, practice, etc. you aint got that much time be watch everything like that. you can glance at stuff. you can get an accountant to watch the first accountant, get an extra lawyer to watch your 1st lawyer. get another agent to watch your agent. but even that aint fool proof. it happens people. it happens. glad he caught it early.

even if BBB is a wrap. it was still a great lesson and lessons to be learned for a young millionaire. he learned about being a business owner. businesses fail all the time. a lot of people you that are rich now failed at business numerous times before they got it right. it is...what it is. you live and you learn.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:52 pm Post subject:

trablos wrote:

Obviously he's gonna do what's best for himself, but I'd honestly be a little disappointed if he just signed with Nike or one of the other shoemakers. I loved the idea of his family business being his own thing, not being tied to any particular brand, and empowering players to take their business and branding into their own hands. It's not even about the money, it's about having complete control over your won enterprise and doing things your way without the red tape of corporate sponsors.

Agreed.

Anyone think if Zion had done the same thing that his shoes wouldn't be flying off the shelves?
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:21 pm Post subject:

splashmtn wrote:

jonnybravo wrote:

tony wrote:

splashmtn wrote:

tony wrote:

Watching their reality show, you could just sense he was a yes man/hype man and had bad intentions. Only a matter of time, this is why you have to separate family/friends from business sometimes.

Starched. And of course he didn't reaad the article.

I didn't realize I was suppose to post on a forum anytime I had a feeling toward someone smh. No one is hating on Lavar as a father...tf you going on about lol. It's clear as day you have some sort of crazy fandom toward the fact that he was there for them as a parent and will defend him to your death.

All I got to say to you about it all is the fact that Lonzo, Gelo, and Melo removed all pictures and affiliation toward BBB and Lavar says a lot about the BS he put them through and how they feel toward him right now. Hopefully it's just about the 1.5m because no one wants to see their family torn apart over Lavar's foolish takes/decisions.

Edit: And you also have Melo commenting about how thankful he is for getting them (ball brothers) out of it. Sounds like there is a lot more to it than just Alan being a conman and taking 1.5m.

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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 pm Post subject:

trablos wrote:

I agree, but there’s nothing stopping him from doing that later in his career, once he’s been able to establish himself more, and figure out what his place in the league is going to be.

If BBB has been a distraction for him this far, which it seems like it has, I don’t blame him for wanting to distance himself a bit for now. Just cash in those Nike paychecks for a couple years without the stress of running a business, on top of being one of the most heavily scrutinized players in the league. Then, maybe 4 or 5 years from now once his Nike contract is up, he can revisit BBB once his career is on more stable ground.

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:20 am Post subject:

BlackStarMamba wrote:

AQuestSupreme wrote:

trablos wrote:

2019 wrote:

Practice wrote:

Lonzo has apparently removed all pictures of Lavar from his instagram, so that combined with his comment might mean Lonzo is getting away from him.

My gut was always that Lonzo was just trying to be a good to family and run with BBB but it's obvious that that has back fired to the point of embarrassment.

The #myownman thing and deleting photos of Lavar tells me he's growing up. And I think the way he has his jersey hanging in the rafters in the photo is very telling --- remember it was Lavar that went out there and said he wanted Zo in PHX.

Don't get it twisted. Lonzo is fiercely loyal to his dad as he should be, he's just not going to let slimy figures take advantage of him, his family, or his business interests. Lets not turn this into a whole Lonzo vs. Lavar narrative.

Dude, he may have very well been fiercely loyalty to his father, but what was doesn't have anything to do with what is to be, unless things absolutely can by changed by their very nature.

Put it this way: If you were in a relationship, and your significant other had pictures of you up on their social media, and they took all those pictures down, but kept the rest of their pictures up, you wouldn't see that as unusual and concerning?

I watch the facebook show and follow the Ball family pretty close since Chino Hills. I would say that this whole thing with Alon Foster is equally much about Lavar. if i had to give a percentage about 60% ALan , 40% Lavar

1. Lonzo has been telling Lavar for months that he was uncomfortable with Alan and Lavar brushed him off. If you are so big on family first, you listen to your adult son that is bringing you the money and not someone you met in 2010

2. Lavar states he did not review the rumors/emails regarding the $1.5mil (revealed to Lonzo and the family in Oct 2018) because he was in Europe. The entire family came back to and started Spire in Cleveland around Nov. Lavar has had since Nov-March to look into these matters.

3. Why not sue Alan for the money? Likely Lavar knew about the money and told Lonzo dont worry about it, its for the betterment of the business.

4. Lonzo being 51% owner when Lavar is the face of the brand means any lawsuits related to the company falls on Lonzo heavy. BBB last year had issues with merchandise, many complaints, F grade with BBB. This year the shoes which people bought in Oct still have not shipped. Very poor business practices. And Lonzo is 51% of the company. Also the $5 million house in Chino hills is in Lonzo's name. If it goes under, its on him. The JBA players not getting paid --> can equal lawsuit, in which it falls on Lonzo being primary majority owner.

5. Why delete pics of your dad and BBB from your Instagram if this is only about Alan?

6. Why not have a joint family statement stating the BBB is severing ties with Alan and moving in a new direction with better management?

7. My own man hastag, the instagram pic, the moving on to bigger and better. what does that have to do with Alan? it has to do with BBB, and BBB is Lavar (the face). Lavar's Big Baller, Lavar's personal training company he set up before all this was called Big Baller's Personal Training

BBB was using Lonzo's money to advance the company and Lavar was probably aware of most of it and Lonzo is now fed up it. Its tax time, once he sat down and did his taxes his BBB ownership and stake is not helping him out financially. BBBs bring negativity to him and it can be distracting. You can see from the show Lamelo didn't like playing in Europe and also really wants to play in college. Unfortunately its gone because his father/Alan prioritized the business success.

Unless Lavar was a complete idiot (and that’s not out of the question), Lonzo should be fully protected from any lawsuits. Rich people have been establishing limited liability corporations to handle their shady business for decades that shield their personal assets even if the company goes belly up with a metric ton of creditors who never got paid and customers who got screwed over. Whatever money Lonzo put into those companies would be gone, but his personal assets and future earnings should be fine. It’s a black mark to his rep, maybe, but it’s doubtful any cheated customers or players who didn’t get paid can come after him personally for their money.

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:26 am Post subject:

MJST wrote:

trablos wrote:

Agreed.

Anyone think if Zion had done the same thing that his shoes wouldn't be flying off the shelves?

I agree from the individual perspective.

But from my Laker fan perspective, I just want him away from this toxic BBB/LaVar environment, training and doing conditioning with a top guy and wearing top shoes. That is going to make him go to the next level.
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:29 am Post subject:

"IF" Zo takes his job more seriously, gets healthy, avoids off the court drama, he will be a BEAST (if LJ allows him to). I hope our next coach tells LJ he wants him to work off the ball more. ZO can be special and I think the trade rumors may give him a kick in the a^ss that he needs. Zo is going to have a BIG season. BOOK IT!

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:13 am Post subject:

As he distances himself from Lavar, I hope he hires some professional trainers to help him both on physical and technical aspects of the game. I don't want to dis on Lavar's homemade program, but it may have been good for a teenager Lonzo playing in Chino Hills. As a Pro, he must look for Pro's help. _________________ ....

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:25 am Post subject:

Good job Lonzo. Be your own man. You can still love your father, but surround yourself with professionals to better your game, body, and dollars. Let's get it. #MambaMentality _________________ “You can't be held captive by the fear of failure or the fear of what people may say.” - Kobe Bryant

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:59 am Post subject:

BlackStarMamba wrote:

AQuestSupreme wrote:

trablos wrote:

2019 wrote:

Practice wrote:

Lonzo has apparently removed all pictures of Lavar from his instagram, so that combined with his comment might mean Lonzo is getting away from him.

Would not be surprised if after taxes and Lavar's get rich quick schemes Lonzo didn't take home much. At least he is figuring this out while on his rookie contract and not after the prime of his career.

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