Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8352 Location: Santa Monica
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:56 pm Post subject: Broussard: "Majority" of ex-players rank Kobe ahead of Lebron
Even though just about every media pundit (except maybe Skip Bayless and SAS) think Lebron is a better player than Kobe, players - especially those who played against both disagree.
Chris Broussard was on Cowherd's show and said that more than half of ex-players think Kobe was a better player than Lebron, mostly because of his killer instinct, and he added that he thinks those guys didn't want to go up against him for that reason.
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
Kobe could have moved ahead of Jordan and Lebron but chosed to take an insane legacy contract, jack up poor shots while 4 teammates stood around, alienate players on his team, and (bleep) up free agent meetings. If Kobe played a more balanced offensive game, he’d be the goat with 7 rings.
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
Kobe could have moved ahead of Jordan and Lebron but chosed to take an insane legacy contract, jack up poor shots while 4 teammates stood around, alienate players on his team, and (bleep) up free agent meetings. If Kobe played a more balanced offensive game, he’d be the goat with 7 rings.
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
Kobe could have moved ahead of Jordan and Lebron but chosed to take an insane legacy contract, jack up poor shots while 4 teammates stood around, alienate players on his team, and (bleep) up free agent meetings. If Kobe played a more balanced offensive game, he’d be the goat with 7 rings.
Yep, because of Kobe's high BBIQ... I naively thought he'd be the one to outsmart Jordan and alter his game.
Instead Kobe did what MJ did.
And now LBJ is doing what both of them did.
That alpha mojo might be the hardest drug ever to shake.
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 1788 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:37 pm Post subject:
george w kush wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
Kobe could have moved ahead of Jordan and Lebron but chosed to take an insane legacy contract, jack up poor shots while 4 teammates stood around, alienate players on his team, and (bleep) up free agent meetings. If Kobe played a more balanced offensive game, he’d be the goat with 7 rings.
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject:
Sentient Meat wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
LBJ had a golden opportunity to move ahead of MJ and Kobe by reinventing himself as a team player willing to take a backseat to allow the rest to grow and flourish.
Instead, he acted exactly like they did, and couldn't let go of his alpha status... alienating his teammates and causing them to implode out of the playoff race. Russell nor Magic ever did this.
If you take away the team player aspect, then there no longer is a case to be made for him, as MJ and Kobe were always better as individual creators.
If you aren't the best individually... and you aren't a great team player... then you can't be the greatest of all time.
Kobe could have moved ahead of Jordan and Lebron but chosed to take an insane legacy contract, jack up poor shots while 4 teammates stood around, alienate players on his team, and (bleep) up free agent meetings. If Kobe played a more balanced offensive game, he’d be the goat with 7 rings.
Yep, because of Kobe's high BBIQ... I naively thought he'd be the one to outsmart Jordan and alter his game.
Instead Kobe did what MJ did.
And now LBJ is doing what both of them did.
That alpha mojo might be the hardest drug ever to shake.
So true guys.. Duncan was one of the few superstars to age gracefully.. Never been a fan of Vince Carter but he's done well at it as well.
Iverson and Carmello are two other superstars that couldn't make the necessary adjustments.
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Old heads will say the player they played against, younger dudes will say LeBron. Never ending debate lol
old heads played against both. this is not the case with kobe and bron. since kobe was so much younger, mj was on his way out when kobe was still wet behind the ears.
kobe drafted in 96, mj wins his last one in 98.
Bron was drafted in 2003... that means kobe was how old?24 or so years old. entering his prime(since he came in early the prime starts before 27).
Bron and kobe played at the same time for a nice amt of years. meaning the paul pierces of the nba, the ray allens, etc, etc. had to deal with both monters, kobe and bron. they saw both of their primes. sure monster bron was in his prime when the older guys were sliding out of theirs but they still remember both. its not the same with mj and kobe.
So if dudes who literally just retired last week chooses one over the others its probably true since they know both of them.
Old heads will say the player they played against, younger dudes will say LeBron. Never ending debate lol
old heads played against both. this is not the case with kobe and bron. since kobe was so much younger, mj was on his way out when kobe was still wet behind the ears.
kobe drafted in 96, mj wins his last one in 98.
Bron was drafted in 2003... that means kobe was how old?24 or so years old. entering his prime(since he came in early the prime starts before 27).
Bron and kobe played at the same time for a nice amt of years. meaning the paul pierces of the nba, the ray allens, etc, etc. had to deal with both monters, kobe and bron. they saw both of their primes. sure monster bron was in his prime when the older guys were sliding out of theirs but they still remember both. its not the same with mj and kobe.
So if dudes who literally just retired last week chooses one over the others its probably true since they know both of them.
Your favorite player Lonzo said LBJ > Kobe. Just saying.
Broussard the Kobe hater is just stirring the pot.
I love Kobe but if the Lakers had traded Kobe for Bron in 2007, we'd have 3-4 more rings. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:36 pm Post subject:
tony wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
tony wrote:
Old heads will say the player they played against, younger dudes will say LeBron. Never ending debate lol
old heads played against both. this is not the case with kobe and bron. since kobe was so much younger, mj was on his way out when kobe was still wet behind the ears.
kobe drafted in 96, mj wins his last one in 98.
Bron was drafted in 2003... that means kobe was how old?24 or so years old. entering his prime(since he came in early the prime starts before 27).
Bron and kobe played at the same time for a nice amt of years. meaning the paul pierces of the nba, the ray allens, etc, etc. had to deal with both monters, kobe and bron. they saw both of their primes. sure monster bron was in his prime when the older guys were sliding out of theirs but they still remember both. its not the same with mj and kobe.
So if dudes who literally just retired last week chooses one over the others its probably true since they know both of them.
Your favorite player Lonzo said LBJ > Kobe. Just saying.
Maybe you missed his point.. Ball didn't play against either of them while they were in their prime.
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