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AD sign and trade str8 up for Bron. Sign Kawhi. Keep the youth. Draft Ty Jerome. Leave the PoBO vacant and at least bring Tony Bennett in for an interview for HC. _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfan32 wrote: | hydrohead wrote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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There's significant concern that DeMarcus Cousins has suffered a torn left quad, but there won't be complete certainty until his MRI on Tuesday, league sources tell ESPN. The hope is that it's just a strain. |
Maybe the Lakers can get him for the vet min now, lol. |
Maybe he will re-sign with the Warriors and cash in next summer. |
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KBandKB Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Let's say IGT is right and we do get Kawhi. I would go for Bol Bol in the draft for more shooting.
Remaining Cap room:
Re-sign Bullock.
Keep Caruso.
Exception: Darren Collison
Vet Min: McGee
Bol-McGee
LeBron-Kuzma-Wagner
Ingram-Hart
Kawhi-Bullock
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AirTupac Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lol @ Bol starting _________________ I love my Lakies |
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Daphanabe Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | lakersfan32 wrote: | hydrohead wrote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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There's significant concern that DeMarcus Cousins has suffered a torn left quad, but there won't be complete certainty until his MRI on Tuesday, league sources tell ESPN. The hope is that it's just a strain. |
Maybe the Lakers can get him for the vet min now, lol. |
Maybe he will re-sign with the Warriors and cash in next summer. |
There is no more cashing in for him. If it wasn’t apparent before, it is now - damaged goods. |
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lakersfan8 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:19 am Post subject: |
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KBandKB wrote: | Let's say IGT is right and we do get Kawhi. I would go for Bol Bol in the draft for more shooting.
Remaining Cap room:
Re-sign Bullock.
Keep Caruso.
Exception: Darren Collison
Vet Min: McGee
Bol-McGee
LeBron-Kuzma-Wagner
Ingram-Hart
Kawhi-Bullock
Lonzo-Collison-Caruso |
McGee probably won’t take the vet minimum.
I like Seth Curry more than Collison. |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Daphanabe wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | lakersfan32 wrote: | hydrohead wrote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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There's significant concern that DeMarcus Cousins has suffered a torn left quad, but there won't be complete certainty until his MRI on Tuesday, league sources tell ESPN. The hope is that it's just a strain. |
Maybe the Lakers can get him for the vet min now, lol. |
Maybe he will re-sign with the Warriors and cash in next summer. |
There is no more cashing in for him. If it wasn’t apparent before, it is now - damaged goods. |
Vucevic just moved up as the best available big man this summer. |
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VicXLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:38 am Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | Daphanabe wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | lakersfan32 wrote: | hydrohead wrote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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There's significant concern that DeMarcus Cousins has suffered a torn left quad, but there won't be complete certainty until his MRI on Tuesday, league sources tell ESPN. The hope is that it's just a strain. |
Maybe the Lakers can get him for the vet min now, lol. |
Maybe he will re-sign with the Warriors and cash in next summer. |
There is no more cashing in for him. If it wasn’t apparent before, it is now - damaged goods. |
Vucevic just moved up as the best available big man this summer. |
if he was ever below DC time to cut bait |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:07 am Post subject: |
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noahp45 wrote: | Well Cousins got hurt. No big money for him now. |
I still don't get why folks want him as a big FA signing.
He's not going to be the Boogie that we knew offense wise. That achilles tear is taxing on his whole body IMO. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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lakersfan8 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:01 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Well Cousins got hurt. No big money for him now. |
I still don't get why folks want him as a big FA signing.
He's not going to be the Boogie that we knew offense wise. That achilles tear is taxing on his whole body IMO. |
Yea, probably view him as a better version of Brook Lopez but nothing more. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:05 am Post subject: |
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lakersfan8 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Well Cousins got hurt. No big money for him now. |
I still don't get why folks want him as a big FA signing.
He's not going to be the Boogie that we knew offense wise. That achilles tear is taxing on his whole body IMO. |
Yea, probably view him as a better version of Brook Lopez but nothing more. |
Not even that TBH.
I think people underestimate the Achilles injury on a guy who is so large and heavy as Boogie. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:21 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | lakersfan8 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Well Cousins got hurt. No big money for him now. |
I still don't get why folks want him as a big FA signing.
He's not going to be the Boogie that we knew offense wise. That achilles tear is taxing on his whole body IMO. |
Yea, probably view him as a better version of Brook Lopez but nothing more. |
Not even that TBH.
I think people underestimate the Achilles injury on a guy who is so large and heavy as Boogie. |
Brook was always the better defensive player _________________ Under New Management |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:52 am Post subject: |
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The next rebound that Brook gets will be his first. I feel bad for Boogie. He is done and is never going to get paid (if he didn't get hurt he would have clearly been a max player). |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:53 am Post subject: |
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RI Laker wrote: | The next rebound that Brook gets will be his first. I feel bad for Boogie. He is done and is never going to get paid (if he didn't get hurt he would have clearly been a max player). |
That's a wrong way to look at it.
Plenty of data that shows guys like him, Hibbert, are/were effective box outs that helped the TEAM garner defensive rebounds. He may not put up massive rebounding stats but why do you think Jules loved rebounding next to Brook? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:06 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | RI Laker wrote: | The next rebound that Brook gets will be his first. I feel bad for Boogie. He is done and is never going to get paid (if he didn't get hurt he would have clearly been a max player). |
That's a wrong way to look at it.
Plenty of data that shows guys like him, Hibbert, are/were effective box outs that helped the TEAM garner defensive rebounds. He may not put up massive rebounding stats but why do you think Jules loved rebounding next to Brook? |
Not to mention Brook being the better rim protector. Boogie's quicker feet could be useful-ish on switches - his best defensive attribute - but guess what?
Boogie was the better offensive player, no question - shooting 3s earlier than Brook, passing, ball-handling, offensive rebounding, sheer relentlessness. _________________ Under New Management |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | RI Laker wrote: | The next rebound that Brook gets will be his first. I feel bad for Boogie. He is done and is never going to get paid (if he didn't get hurt he would have clearly been a max player). |
That's a wrong way to look at it.
Plenty of data that shows guys like him, Hibbert, are/were effective box outs that helped the TEAM garner defensive rebounds. He may not put up massive rebounding stats but why do you think Jules loved rebounding next to Brook? |
Not to mention Brook being the better rim protector. Boogie's quicker feet could be useful-ish on switches - his best defensive attribute - but guess what?
Boogie was the better offensive player, no question - shooting 3s earlier than Brook, passing, ball-handling, offensive rebounding, sheer relentlessness. |
For sure. Boogie on offense was a monster. Probably a bit of the reason he took the defensive end off. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:09 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | RI Laker wrote: | The next rebound that Brook gets will be his first. I feel bad for Boogie. He is done and is never going to get paid (if he didn't get hurt he would have clearly been a max player). |
That's a wrong way to look at it.
Plenty of data that shows guys like him, Hibbert, are/were effective box outs that helped the TEAM garner defensive rebounds. He may not put up massive rebounding stats but why do you think Jules loved rebounding next to Brook? |
Sorry but 4 boards per game is a disgrace. Plenty of centers effectively box out which not only garners rebounds for the team, but themselves as well. I understand he was not down low offensively, which hurt his totals. However, four rebounds a game is ridiculous. Your analogy about Randle doesn't really support your claim. He had his lowest rebounding #'s of his career playing next to him (although his minutes were lower). I like BL (especially the fact that he seemed to enjoy being a Laker), but he played a little bit like a whimp to be honest. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:10 am Post subject: |
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As an aside, isn't it fun when additional data challenges our preconceptions in unexpected ways?
ETA: of course, some folks will still run with old ways of understanding the game. _________________ Under New Management |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:18 am Post subject: |
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RI Laker wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | RI Laker wrote: | The next rebound that Brook gets will be his first. I feel bad for Boogie. He is done and is never going to get paid (if he didn't get hurt he would have clearly been a max player). |
That's a wrong way to look at it.
Plenty of data that shows guys like him, Hibbert, are/were effective box outs that helped the TEAM garner defensive rebounds. He may not put up massive rebounding stats but why do you think Jules loved rebounding next to Brook? |
Sorry but 4 boards per game is a disgrace. Plenty of centers effectively box out which not only garners rebounds for the team, but themselves as well. I understand he was not down low offensively, which hurt his totals. However, four rebounds a game is ridiculous. Your analogy about Randle doesn't really support your claim. He had his lowest rebounding #'s of his career playing next to him (although his minutes were lower). I like BL (especially the fact that he seemed to enjoy being a Laker), but he played a little bit like a whimp to be honest. |
I don't have the stats in front of me, but Brook regularly is in the top tier of bigs who box out and has teammates with improved rebound % as a result.
You can't just stare at traditional box scores and assign traditional roles for centers today in the NBA. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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lakerican Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:34 am Post subject: |
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You can have the defensive rebound and you can let the other team get the offensive rebound... |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Milwaukee went from 44-38 to 60-22
It's not all him, but the main player they added was Brook. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Brook was such a self-inflicted wound. He wanted to stay, and would have been cheap (give him what we gave Lance). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Milwaukee went from 44-38 to 60-22
It's not all him, but the main player they added was Brook. |
the main player they added is their coach. sigh |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:44 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Brook was such a self-inflicted wound. He wanted to stay, and would have been cheap (give him what we gave Lance). |
Yep, still sick over hearing that news. |
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:48 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Brook was such a self-inflicted wound. He wanted to stay, and would have been cheap (give him what we gave Lance). |
How would you compare Brook's season to McGee's?
And is your hypothetical about having both those guys? Would McGee have come if Brook was here? |
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