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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject:

Lol Suns fire their coach
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Wander if PG regrets staying with Russ now? They can't beat a Portland team missing their second best player?
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Is he the first coach to get fired in his 1st season?
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If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


most of the reports suggested they simply were happy making the playoffs...he got them that, so maybe they are content.

the fans definitely didnt seem content on being a playoff punching bag for the bucks... from brief shots I seen of the crowd in their playoff opener it looked half empty
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:46 pm    Post subject:

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Lol Suns fire their coach


The return of the Kidd
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audioaxes wrote:
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If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


most of the reports suggested they simply were happy making the playoffs...he got them that, so maybe they are content.

the fans definitely didnt seem content on being a playoff punching bag for the bucks... from brief shots I seen of the crowd in their playoff opener it looked half empty


I am pretty sure that is the norm at Little Caesars Arena. It is really sad how that city has stopped supporting their team. Lowest attendance in the league based on %.

http://www.espn.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:09 am    Post subject:

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Lol Suns fire their coach


that is stupid.....he definitely deserved more than a season.....rumor is they want Monty Williams. If they get Zion, they can probably get anyone they would want with that young core.....Booker, Ayton and Zion.
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Jesus. The poor guy. Igor has some rough edges but seemed like the most talented coach they've had in ages.
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If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


Trade him to OKC for Steven Adams. Gotta find a 3rd team to send Adams to..


That's an interesting idea to ponder. If you're OKC, and you're knees deep in luxury tax and first round exits. Might as well bring home the local legend to finish his career.

Westbrook has justifiably taken a lot of heat over the last 24 hours. But he hasn't gotten to the rim like he used to. He's still lightning quick, and can get into the lane and get open shots for capable wings. He's not a fit for the Lakers though.


Adams is a great big, young too but at this point, OKC gotta shake it up. Blake for Adams (assuming 3rd team since there's Drummond) is not a bad idea
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governator wrote:
believeNmagic32 wrote:
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If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


Trade him to OKC for Steven Adams. Gotta find a 3rd team to send Adams to..


That's an interesting idea to ponder. If you're OKC, and you're knees deep in luxury tax and first round exits. Might as well bring home the local legend to finish his career.

Westbrook has justifiably taken a lot of heat over the last 24 hours. But he hasn't gotten to the rim like he used to. He's still lightning quick, and can get into the lane and get open shots for capable wings. He's not a fit for the Lakers though.


Adams is a great big, young too but at this point, OKC gotta shake it up. Blake for Adams (assuming 3rd team since there's Drummond) is not a bad idea


Who the heck wants Adams at 25m a year? He's worth half that given the fact he's an old school big. I highly doubt Adams gets you Blake who may get all NBA votes this year.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
governator wrote:
believeNmagic32 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


Trade him to OKC for Steven Adams. Gotta find a 3rd team to send Adams to..


That's an interesting idea to ponder. If you're OKC, and you're knees deep in luxury tax and first round exits. Might as well bring home the local legend to finish his career.

Westbrook has justifiably taken a lot of heat over the last 24 hours. But he hasn't gotten to the rim like he used to. He's still lightning quick, and can get into the lane and get open shots for capable wings. He's not a fit for the Lakers though.


Adams is a great big, young too but at this point, OKC gotta shake it up. Blake for Adams (assuming 3rd team since there's Drummond) is not a bad idea


Who the heck wants Adams at 25m a year? He's worth half that given the fact he's an old school big. I highly doubt Adams gets you Blake who may get all NBA votes this year.

I actually would love to have Adams on the team, but he's the kind of guy you trade for after you've signed Kawhi or Kyrie.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
governator wrote:
believeNmagic32 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


Trade him to OKC for Steven Adams. Gotta find a 3rd team to send Adams to..


That's an interesting idea to ponder. If you're OKC, and you're knees deep in luxury tax and first round exits. Might as well bring home the local legend to finish his career.

Westbrook has justifiably taken a lot of heat over the last 24 hours. But he hasn't gotten to the rim like he used to. He's still lightning quick, and can get into the lane and get open shots for capable wings. He's not a fit for the Lakers though.


Adams is a great big, young too but at this point, OKC gotta shake it up. Blake for Adams (assuming 3rd team since there's Drummond) is not a bad idea


Who the heck wants Adams at 25m a year? He's worth half that given the fact he's an old school big. I highly doubt Adams gets you Blake who may get all NBA votes this year.

I actually would love to have Adams on the team, but he's the kind of guy you trade for after you've signed Kawhi or Kyrie.


Right. But swapping an all-NBA level player in Blake for Adams who then needs to be sent to a 3rd team? 0% chance of that.

Adams at 25m makes it tough. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but at that price, few teams will be interested unless they can send back junk deals to OKC (which defeats the whole point of reducing luxury/repeater taxes).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:48 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
governator wrote:
believeNmagic32 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


Trade him to OKC for Steven Adams. Gotta find a 3rd team to send Adams to..


That's an interesting idea to ponder. If you're OKC, and you're knees deep in luxury tax and first round exits. Might as well bring home the local legend to finish his career.

Westbrook has justifiably taken a lot of heat over the last 24 hours. But he hasn't gotten to the rim like he used to. He's still lightning quick, and can get into the lane and get open shots for capable wings. He's not a fit for the Lakers though.


Adams is a great big, young too but at this point, OKC gotta shake it up. Blake for Adams (assuming 3rd team since there's Drummond) is not a bad idea


Who the heck wants Adams at 25m a year? He's worth half that given the fact he's an old school big. I highly doubt Adams gets you Blake who may get all NBA votes this year.

I actually would love to have Adams on the team, but he's the kind of guy you trade for after you've signed Kawhi or Kyrie.


Right. But swapping an all-NBA level player in Blake for Adams who then needs to be sent to a 3rd team? 0% chance of that.

Adams at 25m makes it tough. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but at that price, few teams will be interested unless they can send back junk deals to OKC (which defeats the whole point of reducing luxury/repeater taxes).

No doubt, I was just trying to swing the conversation towards the Lakers.

Detroit wouldn't take on Adams in the first place because they can't move Drummond.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:50 am    Post subject:

Right, but can we even aggregate enough salary to send out if we had LBJ/KL or Kyrie? It would have to be BI and Lonzo for Adams, which is too steep a price IMO for a non all star player in Adams.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
governator wrote:
believeNmagic32 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
If you are the Pistons do you move Blake Griffin this summer?


Trade him to OKC for Steven Adams. Gotta find a 3rd team to send Adams to..


That's an interesting idea to ponder. If you're OKC, and you're knees deep in luxury tax and first round exits. Might as well bring home the local legend to finish his career.

Westbrook has justifiably taken a lot of heat over the last 24 hours. But he hasn't gotten to the rim like he used to. He's still lightning quick, and can get into the lane and get open shots for capable wings. He's not a fit for the Lakers though.


Adams is a great big, young too but at this point, OKC gotta shake it up. Blake for Adams (assuming 3rd team since there's Drummond) is not a bad idea


Who the heck wants Adams at 25m a year? He's worth half that given the fact he's an old school big. I highly doubt Adams gets you Blake who may get all NBA votes this year.

I actually would love to have Adams on the team, but he's the kind of guy you trade for after you've signed Kawhi or Kyrie.


Right. But swapping an all-NBA level player in Blake for Adams who then needs to be sent to a 3rd team? 0% chance of that.

Adams at 25m makes it tough. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but at that price, few teams will be interested unless they can send back junk deals to OKC (which defeats the whole point of reducing luxury/repeater taxes).

No doubt, I was just trying to swing the conversation towards the Lakers.

Detroit wouldn't take on Adams in the first place because they can't move Drummond.


OKC would get Blake, the junk deals (assuming it comes with picks) would go to a rebuilding Detroit
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OKC would get Blake, the junk deals (assuming it comes with picks) would go to a rebuilding Detroit


They can get far more than that for Blake IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:58 am    Post subject:

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OKC would get Blake, the junk deals (assuming it comes with picks) would go to a rebuilding Detroit


They can get far more than that for Blake IMO.


You think so? like what package?
Clippers got Tobias Harris, Avery Bradley, Boban Marjanovic, a first-round draft pick in 2018 and a second-round pick in 2019

So 1 rising star, 1 starter, 1 back up, 1 first rd pick and 1 second rd pick
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OKC would get Blake, the junk deals (assuming it comes with picks) would go to a rebuilding Detroit


They can get far more than that for Blake IMO.


You think so? like what package?
Clippers got Tobias Harris, Avery Bradley, Boban Marjanovic, a first-round draft pick in 2018 and a second-round pick in 2019

So 1 rising star, 1 starter, 1 back up, 1 first rd pick and 1 second rd pick


You're assuming that Adams gets sent to a 3rd team.

So they're swapping out an all NBA caliber Blake to get back whatever a 3rd team wants to give up for Adams.

I don't see a 3rd team giving up an all star level player/draft picks/etc. for Adams.
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OKC would get Blake, the junk deals (assuming it comes with picks) would go to a rebuilding Detroit


They can get far more than that for Blake IMO.


You think so? like what package?
Clippers got Tobias Harris, Avery Bradley, Boban Marjanovic, a first-round draft pick in 2018 and a second-round pick in 2019

So 1 rising star, 1 starter, 1 back up, 1 first rd pick and 1 second rd pick


You're assuming that Adams gets sent to a 3rd team.

So they're swapping out an all NBA caliber Blake to get back whatever a 3rd team wants to give up for Adams.

I don't see a 3rd team giving up an all star level player/draft picks/etc. for Adams.


Yeah, maybe OKC has to give up more but my point was that OKC should think about something like this. Ditto with Detroit now that they see how far they can go with this core, unless they're content with playoff ticket sales
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:59 am    Post subject:

Don’t see why Detroit would trade Blake. They won’t be in the luxury tax anyway. Better to hold on to the expirings and see if they can package them. Then once Drummond is off the books evaluate and go from there.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject:

OKC can't trade Adams for Blake if only because it maintains their insane salary situation. Repeater tax penalties are no joke, so they need a plan to shed contracts.

EDIT: To be more specific, if they were able to make the trade, OKC would be on the hook for +$105 million in 2021 for the salaries of RW, PG and Griffin alone!

Add to that another +$60 million in salary for the rest of the roster, and then the crazy repeater tax penalty of maybe 5x the amount of $$$ over the cap and you are easily spending a half a billion dollars a year... no team can handle that amount of financial duress.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:14 am    Post subject:

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Don’t see why Detroit would trade Blake. They won’t be in the luxury tax anyway. Better to hold on to the expirings and see if they can package them. Then once Drummond is off the books evaluate and go from there.


They wouldn't get near the same haul for him that the Clippers did anyway. He's two years older and has another knee injury.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject:

11th pick for Drummond

Boom...

We get our starting C and the Pistons add a young player to there rebuild.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:36 am    Post subject:

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11th pick for Drummond

Boom...

We get our starting C and the Pistons add a young player to there rebuild.


Yep. Ignoring that it potentially kills Kawhi to L.A., can't wait for Staples to boo Drummond for not raising his hand on defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject:

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11th pick for Drummond

Boom...

We get our starting C and the Pistons add a young player to there rebuild.


Yep. Ignoring that it potentially kills Kawhi to L.A., can't wait for Staples to boo Drummond for not raising his hand on defense.


Technically you can sign Kawhi first but then you gotta fit that $27mil/send some people out
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