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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Outspoken wrote: | Username wrote: | Is the author of this article calling Magic one of the top basketball decision-makers of the last 37 years? And people are taking this article seriously? |
That part made me laugh but I think they mean as a player. |
Well, the writer is churning out as much as 15 posts a day; he doesn't really have time to give anyone a lot of thought. |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | I'm not going to comment on the merits of this article, but it is interesting in that it reflects how Sports journalism is done today.
It has no original reporting. All the information is taken from other articles. And when you go back to those articles, you find their information was generally taken from other articles. So all these articles seem to stem from the same exact base material.
and then all the writers do is sandwich their own observations and jokes between the links to other people's articles. Since reporters are doing so little reporting, they grab onto whatever theme is hot and perpetuate it.
In essence all these articles could be classified as commentaries about the few original articles. I appreciate reporters need to do that to feed the internet beast. Results in a lot of herd thinking. |
Author's style/flavor + a bunch of secondary sources that don't say anything new + fancy title = publishable material and $$$, and it pretty much always has. Especially when you're trying to publish something every day/hour.
Whether it's of substance is up to the reader to catch. So many people fail at learning how to think critically in college (related to nobody taking humanities/social science courses seriously anymore) that it's easy to fool people with articles like these, whether they have merit or not.
The articles that contain fresh primary sources, good writing, and a relatively unbiased perspective are few and far between, but that's because that's what the public wants. If you had a 10-page fleshed out article written by a trusted journalist that gives a complete perspective on the Lakers, half the people in this forum probably wouldn't read it. Or they'd wait for some thread in here to break it down improperly. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Outspoken wrote: | Username wrote: | Is the author of this article calling Magic one of the top basketball decision-makers of the last 37 years? And people are taking this article seriously? |
That part made me laugh but I think they mean as a player. |
I think you guys are misinterpreting the use of "top". In this case, he's saying we've had 3 guys at the top of our decision making totem pole over that period...not "top" as in one of the best in the business (though that certainly applies to Logo). _________________ KOBE |
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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How many times can the same article be written?
How many times can the same thread be made? _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Don Draper wrote: |
The articles that contain fresh primary sources, good writing, and a relatively unbiased perspective are few and far between, but that's because that's what the public wants. If you had a 10-page fleshed out article written by a trusted journalist that gives a complete perspective on the Lakers, half the people in this forum probably wouldn't read it. Or they'd wait for some thread in here to break it down improperly. |
The bigger issue is the type of material you described is time-consuming and expensive report. Just referencing another article and wrapping a bit of me-too commentary around it is cheap and quick – it feeds the Internet beast. |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Many here were saying the same when Dr. Buss passed. It is rare for the second generation to live up to the first. Things were more optimistic when Mitch was here but when they stupidly let him go, the idiocy of the Buss kids was in full display. |
I've seen both sides of this. For one the 2nd generation, the business is an obligation and not a passion, which is why they fail to build the business up. On the other hand, I've seen the offspring take a family business and transform it into something spectacular and wildly successful because they went into new ventures that their parents never envisioned when they started up the business. Unfortunately, with the Buss family it seems like they are trying not to screw up their dad's vision. |
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Just dont let us become the New York Knicks of the West. _________________ *sighs*
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City_Dawg wrote: | Just dont let us become the New York Knicks of the West. | Nice to see you posting homie. Been a minute. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Username wrote: | Is the author of this article calling Magic one of the top basketball decision-makers of the last 37 years? And people are taking this article seriously? |
"The Los Angeles Lakers have had three top basketball decision-makers in the last 37 years. One of them was the greatest executive in NBA history, Jerry West. One of them was his handpicked successor, Mitch Kupchak. And one of them was the team's greatest ever player, Magic Johnson."
These three have been the Lakers Top Basketball decision makers. That's all he's saying. He's not talking about greatness. TOP as in organization hierarchy, not as in greatness. |
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Runway8 wrote: | Username wrote: | Is the author of this article calling Magic one of the top basketball decision-makers of the last 37 years? And people are taking this article seriously? |
"The Los Angeles Lakers have had three top basketball decision-makers in the last 37 years. One of them was the greatest executive in NBA history, Jerry West. One of them was his handpicked successor, Mitch Kupchak. And one of them was the team's greatest ever player, Magic Johnson."
These three have been the Lakers Top Basketball decision makers. That's all he's saying. He's not talking about greatness. TOP as in organization hierarchy, not as in greatness. |
Yes, if anything he left Jimbo out of the equation. |
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