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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:14 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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I don't think playing 2 bigs simultaneously will work.

If AD is here, he's the 5. LeBron is the 4/3.


Are we banking on this being the year Lebron plays the 4?
It didnt happen much last year, that's for sure.
And AD is going all in on being the 5?
What we want, and what the players want seem to not add up


Cmon Pak don't be so negative
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:18 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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I don't think playing 2 bigs simultaneously will work.

If AD is here, he's the 5. LeBron is the 4/3.


Are we banking on this being the year Lebron plays the 4?
It didnt happen much last year, that's for sure.
And AD is going all in on being the 5?
What we want, and what the players want seem to not add up

Davis played Center this past season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:27 pm    Post subject:

Davis at the 4 and Bron at the 3 will not work unless you have an undersized C who can guard the perimeter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject:

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Davis at the 4 and Bron at the 3 will not work unless you have an undersized C who can guard the perimeter.


Can Marcus Morris do that? I’d love to get him if we can. I think he has the same agent as LeBron.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject:

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Davis at the 4 and Bron at the 3 will not work unless you have an undersized C who can guard the perimeter.


Can Marcus Morris do that? I’d love to get him if we can. I think he has the same agent as LeBron.


Not sure Morris is an above average perimeter defender. He's not bad but you need to have 2 good perimeter defenders next to LBJ and AD imo.

If I am trading for AD, I look to keep Zo.

Either get Butler, Harris, Middleton or split the space you have left for Terrance Ross, re-sign Bullock, and Morris.

You still have Hart.

Another name that might be possible, Brogdon. How much will the Bucks offer?

He would be a perfect 2-guard next to Zo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:29 am    Post subject:

Philly’s version of John Ireland saying Butler will take the Philly 5-year Max offer, cant blame him if true: Link
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:55 am    Post subject:

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Philly’s version of John Ireland saying Butler will take the Philly 5-year Max offer, cant blame him if true: Link


Most think the guy who is reporting it is a hack
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:00 pm    Post subject:

positions dont mean much now with positionless basketball. You have 6'6 PJ Tucker player the 5 spot and nobody is calling him a center.
You can roll out a lineup with something like:

exception
Hart
Butler
Lebron
AD

and still call Lebron a SF and AD a PF.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:12 pm    Post subject:

LKA wrote:
epak wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
I don't think playing 2 bigs simultaneously will work.

If AD is here, he's the 5. LeBron is the 4/3.


Are we banking on this being the year Lebron plays the 4?
It didnt happen much last year, that's for sure.
And AD is going all in on being the 5?
What we want, and what the players want seem to not add up


Cmon Pak don't be so negative


I agree with Pak Lebron ain’t playing PF full time and AD ain’t playing Center full time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:58 pm    Post subject:

I think the Lakers could contend for a title with Butler if they fill out the rest of the team smartly with solid role players, and if Ingram takes the next step forward and averages 21-24 pts while improving his 3-pt shooting enough.

Seeing what the Raptors have been doing is giving me hope. They don't have a second star, and on any given night either Siakam, Lowry, Gasol or Ibaka fills in as that second star.

I've always thought you need 2-3 bona fide stars to win a world championship, but the Raptors are making me think it may not be an absolute requirement if you have great depth, and you defend and run well for 48 minutes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:08 pm    Post subject:

So with some of the latest thread discussions we have:

-More Garland talk at 4
-Butler as a likely Laker commit, Kyrie possibly to Brooklyn
-AD trade timing has always been an issue

If James knows he has Butler and his Klutch guy Garland to mentor, they're a 50 win team and still have all their pieces for another deal. It doesn't have to be for AD, but this is a nice plug and play roster short term while they line up for a guy like KAT

Ball/Ingram/Butler/James/McGee gives you balance
Garland & Kuz are a dynamic bench duo with Hart & Wagner as spot up threats. You would stagger minutes:

Ball 28/Garland 20
Ingram 28/Ball 6/Hart 14
Butler 34/James 14
James 18/Kuzma 30
McGee 24/Wagner 16/vet min banger 8
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:47 pm    Post subject:

fansincemagic wrote:
So with some of the latest thread discussions we have:

-More Garland talk at 4
-Butler as a likely Laker commit, Kyrie possibly to Brooklyn
-AD trade timing has always been an issue

If James knows he has Butler and his Klutch guy Garland to mentor, they're a 50 win team and still have all their pieces for another deal. It doesn't have to be for AD, but this is a nice plug and play roster short term while they line up for a guy like KAT

Ball/Ingram/Butler/James/McGee gives you balance
Garland & Kuz are a dynamic bench duo with Hart & Wagner as spot up threats. You would stagger minutes:

Ball 28/Garland 20
Ingram 28/Ball 6/Hart 14
Butler 34/James 14
James 18/Kuzma 30
McGee 24/Wagner 16/vet min banger 8


I like that team but would make a couple of changes.

I'd try and get either Millsap or Morris and have them start at PF. I don't want LeBron getting worn down next season battling bigger players and missing games. We need him to stay healthy next year.

BI I feel would be better suited coming off the bench where he can have the ball in his hands more and create for himself and others. Most championship teams have a good 6th man (Odom, Ginobili, Iggy, etc.) and he could still finish games and play starters minutes and have a huge impact.

Round off the roster with a couple of smart experienced veterans like Chandler and Ellington and we can make a deep playoff run.

Zo/BI/Caruso
Butler/Garland/Ellington
LeBron/Hart/Bonga
Millsap/Kuzma/Williams
McGee/Wagner/Chandler
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:01 pm    Post subject:

Mini Mamba wrote:
fansincemagic wrote:
So with some of the latest thread discussions we have:

-More Garland talk at 4
-Butler as a likely Laker commit, Kyrie possibly to Brooklyn
-AD trade timing has always been an issue

If James knows he has Butler and his Klutch guy Garland to mentor, they're a 50 win team and still have all their pieces for another deal. It doesn't have to be for AD, but this is a nice plug and play roster short term while they line up for a guy like KAT

Ball/Ingram/Butler/James/McGee gives you balance
Garland & Kuz are a dynamic bench duo with Hart & Wagner as spot up threats. You would stagger minutes:

Ball 28/Garland 20
Ingram 28/Ball 6/Hart 14
Butler 34/James 14
James 18/Kuzma 30
McGee 24/Wagner 16/vet min banger 8


I like that team but would make a couple of changes.

I'd try and get either Millsap or Morris and have them start at PF. I don't want LeBron getting worn down next season battling bigger players and missing games. We need him to stay healthy next year.

BI I feel would be better suited coming off the bench where he can have the ball in his hands more and create for himself and others. Most championship teams have a good 6th man (Odom, Ginobili, Iggy, etc.) and he could still finish games and play starters minutes and have a huge impact.

Round off the roster with a couple of smart experienced veterans like Chandler and Ellington and we can make a deep playoff run.

Zo/BI/Caruso
Butler/Garland/Ellington
LeBron/Hart/Bonga
Millsap/Kuzma/Williams
McGee/Wagner/Chandler


Much better
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:22 am    Post subject:

Lakers interested in Jimmy Butler who is opting out of Sixers contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-jimmy-butler-intends-to-decline-player-option-190113282.html

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Philadelphia 76ers forward Jimmy Butler intends to decline his player option — barring an unforeseen change of circumstances — yet the Sixers remain adamant about doing whatever it takes to retain the star, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

In opting out of the $19.8 million player option — in which he has a June 29 deadline to do so — it sets the eight-year veteran up to be one of the top unrestricted free agents on the market.

The Sixers were prepared for this decision, sources said.

Butler, 29, was always a top priority for the franchise, but the four-time All-Star further solidified his value to the team in the postseason with his consistent play and veteran leadership, sources said.

Butler’s agent, Bernie Lee, has been resolute since Butler’s trade demand out of Minnesota that any teams interested in him would be competing with multiple maximum contract offers, and that market is revealing itself to be true.

The Los Angeles Lakers have genuine interest in acquiring Butler, sources said.

“Knock on wood, I will get a max contract no matter where I go,” Butler stated at his exit interview last month. “You always want to be able to win. I think that’s key, for sure. You’re looking at coaches, you’re looking at the city. There’s a lot that goes into it.”

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:07 pm    Post subject:

Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success

Defensively that starting 5 a beast!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:26 pm    Post subject:

What happened to position-less basketball?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject:

Daiei wrote:
Inverse wrote:
Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject:

We can also trade some of the kids for a lower-profile consolidation move in the middle of the season
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:37 pm    Post subject:

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We can also trade some of the kids for a lower-profile consolidation move in the middle of the season


Or keep them and eventually pay them and we have some ammo when Lebron is gone and Butler is post-prime.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:47 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success


This is probably my ideal scenario. Over any AD trade possibility. Deep team with a defensive focus. Zo and Butler would be nasty as a backcourt.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:51 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success


That starting lineup is at least a top 5 defense in the league. But the lack of shooting is worrisome.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:07 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Count me in on the Butler train

G: Lonzo Ball
G. Jimmy Butler
F: Brandon Ingram
F: LeBron James
C: Brooke Lopez 🙏🏼

Bench:

G: Darius Garland
G: Josh Hart
F: Reggie Bullock
F: Kyle Kuzma
: Mo Wagner

Who beats that team in the west next year? Don’t see anyone. Even if clips land Kawhi. This is the best strategy for both short and long term success


Yes, please!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject:

Do it! Warriors dynasty is done, keep the depth! We have lebron freakin james, we ready to roll with jimmy
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