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al242 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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GameCock-MD wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | AD is easily more talented than Lonzo.
Lonzo has a bigger impact on winning than AD.
IMHO, Lonzo will make people great no matter where he is. AD will still need a creator for him no matter what team he's on. Makes more sense to pair them than swap them. |
Idk about that. |
AD is a finisher who has put up major stats and lead his team to the first round.
We were 4th seed with a healthy Lonzo and out of the playoffs when he went down.
It's not rocket science. |
I am pretty positive AD led his team to the 2nd round last year... |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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al242 wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | AD is easily more talented than Lonzo.
Lonzo has a bigger impact on winning than AD.
IMHO, Lonzo will make people great no matter where he is. AD will still need a creator for him no matter what team he's on. Makes more sense to pair them than swap them. |
Idk about that. |
AD is a finisher who has put up major stats and lead his team to the first round.
We were 4th seed with a healthy Lonzo and out of the playoffs when he went down.
It's not rocket science. |
I am pretty positive AD led his team to the 2nd round last year... |
True...with Rondo averaging 8.2apg. _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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RG73 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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GameCock-MD wrote: | al242 wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | AD is easily more talented than Lonzo.
Lonzo has a bigger impact on winning than AD.
IMHO, Lonzo will make people great no matter where he is. AD will still need a creator for him no matter what team he's on. Makes more sense to pair them than swap them. |
Idk about that. |
AD is a finisher who has put up major stats and lead his team to the first round.
We were 4th seed with a healthy Lonzo and out of the playoffs when he went down.
It's not rocket science. |
I am pretty positive AD led his team to the 2nd round last year... |
True...with Rondo averaging 8.2apg. |
And AD averaging 30 and 13. What's your point? He needed a guard? Like Shaq needed Kobe? |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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That was the point, many here are under the assumption that AD doesn’t need anyone to set him up. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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misterchipmunk Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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lonzo is gonna be a better player than AD |
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Guys, I love Lonzo.
But Lebron and AD are going to be fine.
I would hope they could keep Lonzo with that lineup. But we'll have to see. |
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Super Mega Team Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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misterchipmunk wrote: | lonzo is gonna be a better player than AD |
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KendrickLamar Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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is there anyway we can keep lonzo and get AD while having a max or close to max contract for free agency |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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KendrickLamar wrote: | is there anyway we can keep lonzo and get AD while having a max or close to max contract for free agency |
You would have about 19-20 million.
Stretching Deng was a dumb move. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | KendrickLamar wrote: | is there anyway we can keep lonzo and get AD while having a max or close to max contract for free agency |
You would have about 19-20 million.
Stretching Deng was a dumb move. |
Why do you say that. His contract would've ended in 2020 not 2019. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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ShowtimeReturns Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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IMO, he's gone... |
Lavar meltdown coming soon |
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Lakerchaq Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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44% FT shooter... shows you the lack of basic bball skills. Iq is nothing without the skills. Jokic has more guard skills than him. |
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george w kush Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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GameCock-MD wrote: | al242 wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | AD is easily more talented than Lonzo.
Lonzo has a bigger impact on winning than AD.
IMHO, Lonzo will make people great no matter where he is. AD will still need a creator for him no matter what team he's on. Makes more sense to pair them than swap them. |
Idk about that. |
AD is a finisher who has put up major stats and lead his team to the first round.
We were 4th seed with a healthy Lonzo and out of the playoffs when he went down.
It's not rocket science. |
I am pretty positive AD led his team to the 2nd round last year... |
True...with Rondo averaging 8.2apg. |
And LeBron average 8.5 last year. Lonzo? 5.4 in the half-season he played.
Lke I said, Lebron will get AD plenty of easy buckets. We don't need Lonzo's passing with Lebron on the floor. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | KendrickLamar wrote: | is there anyway we can keep lonzo and get AD while having a max or close to max contract for free agency |
You would have about 19-20 million.
Stretching Deng was a dumb move. |
Why do you say that. His contract would've ended in 2020 not 2019. |
Expiring contract. Would have been much easier to make trades attaching some assets as opposed to getting rid of everyone. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | kikanga wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | KendrickLamar wrote: | is there anyway we can keep lonzo and get AD while having a max or close to max contract for free agency |
You would have about 19-20 million.
Stretching Deng was a dumb move. |
Why do you say that. His contract would've ended in 2020 not 2019. |
Expiring contract. Would have been much easier to make trades attaching some assets as opposed to getting rid of everyone. |
Oh ok. That makes sense. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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msb212 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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What was the point of Jason Kidd if we are trading Lonzo? |
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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msb212 wrote: | What was the point of Jason Kidd if we are trading Lonzo? |
Supposedly, Kyrie also likes Kidd. |
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lakersfan32 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:33 am Post subject: |
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msb212 wrote: | What was the point of Jason Kidd if we are trading Lonzo? | caruso |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:17 am Post subject: |
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msb212 wrote: | What was the point of Jason Kidd if we are trading Lonzo? |
Cut him loose now.... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:27 am Post subject: |
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george w kush wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | al242 wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | lonzobryant wrote: | GameCock-MD wrote: | AD is easily more talented than Lonzo.
Lonzo has a bigger impact on winning than AD.
IMHO, Lonzo will make people great no matter where he is. AD will still need a creator for him no matter what team he's on. Makes more sense to pair them than swap them. |
Idk about that. |
AD is a finisher who has put up major stats and lead his team to the first round.
We were 4th seed with a healthy Lonzo and out of the playoffs when he went down.
It's not rocket science. |
I am pretty positive AD led his team to the 2nd round last year... |
True...with Rondo averaging 8.2apg. |
And LeBron average 8.5 last year. Lonzo? 5.4 in the half-season he played.
Lke I said, Lebron will get AD plenty of easy buckets. We don't need Lonzo's passing with Lebron on the floor. |
A lot of games without Lebron on the floor. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:47 am Post subject: |
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If Zo is traded the Pels are going to be must watch TV. The Zo Zion show is going to be nice. On the negative side, when Zo is on Sportcenter highlights every night and eventually develops into an all-star, all the Zo haters here are going to be complaining and saying they knew it was a bad deal.
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matrixskillz Star Player
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i can only see us trading zo if we're keeping #4 to draft garland or we have an agreement with kyrie. please DON'T sign kemba. _________________ We only celebrate championships.
"I GOT WHEATIES!" |
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george w kush Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:07 am Post subject: |
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OCWA wrote: | If Zo is traded the Pels are going to be must watch TV. The Zo Zion show is going to be nice. On the negative side, when Zo is on Sportcenter highlights every night and eventually develops into an all-star, all the Zo haters here are going to be complaining and saying they knew it was a bad deal. |
Develops into an allstar? Dude averages 10/5/5. Shoots 40% from the field and 45% from the free throw line and plays half the season due to injuries.
And with AD, we'd already have a proven all-star and not a guy that were 'hoping' turns into one. Da'aron Fox is much more likely to be an all-star than Lonzo is, as he's the better player.
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al242 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:08 am Post subject: |
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misterchipmunk wrote: | lonzo is gonna be a better player than AD....said no one ever |
FTFY |
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:11 am Post subject: |
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man I really like Zo, but this is also AD we are talking about. Wish Zo could stay but I understand. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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