-They had been more than a tad flustered the past 2 days, and now the reason has been shown. They were basically being held hostage. Know this, was told that if they had known earlier, they would have went in a different direction instead of basically being used as the fallback option.
This is the problem though, isn't it? It seems like they really didn't have a plan B. I was more than willing to cut Pelinka some slack because if he'd pulled off Kawhi, it would have probably been the greatest off-season in NBA history for one team. But clearly as the days dragged on, something was up. A really smart GM like West sees things a couple of steps ahead of everyone else. Pelinka and co seem always to be reacting. I still think we're in a far more positive place than we have been for the last 6 years. But I don't think we're currently a championship team, so it's going to take some really impressive moves from the front office over the next few years to get us into that position.
What most worries me is that we're going to be in the same position in two years with Giannis, and think we actually have a shot.
Problem with having a plan B in this case, is WE would have had to pivot offf Plan A.
Had we done that, and Kawhi signs with Clippers, we’d never hear the end of it that we would have had Kawhi had we stayed in it.
Simply another dastardly case of using the Lakers for leverage.
Happens all the time.
We were the back-up plan in the off-chance that the clippers wouldn't be able to secure a 2nd superstar.
Teams were told to avoid leaking details of negotiations specifically to prevent the lakers from figuring out that we're being used to pressure the Clippers into doing everything they can to secure PG13. If word got out from either the Clips or Raptors that Kawhi is asking those 2 teams to tradr for a 2nd superstar, lakers would have withdrawn immediately.
We were played. No way around it. Dunno if we should blame the FO. Nobody saw this coming. They played it perfectly.
It cost us DLO and a truckload of other good players. Lowdown mofos.
What happened? I thought our Laker insiders like Ysong, RDA Ambition said it was a done deal that Kawhi will be a Laker?
That was an intentional distraction that they littered just like taking meetings to Canada while waiting for the Clips to get it done. No one saw it coming except the small group of people who are working to get it done.
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:34 am Post subject:
4stargeneralbulldog wrote:
What happened? I thought our Laker insiders like Ysong, RDA Ambition said it was a done deal that Kawhi will be a Laker?
I never believed any of those guys. But damn, I really thought he'd go back to Toronto. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
Basically the Kawhi the prick, wanted the Clippers all along, used the Lakers are leverage. Tried first to get any other FA star like Butler, Durant, etc to team up. They all had other plans. So then he was resided to going back to Toronto or signing with the Lakers. He waited, knowing it would give Clippers time. And him to convince someone else.
I dunno about the rest of you. But (bleep) Kawhi. This is worse than what Dwight or anyone. He literally was looking for a reason every single time not to play with Lebron. Dude, we're going to have to FORCE you to be part of one of the greatest trios (talent wise at least, not sure how it would have worked in reality with egos and all that) of all time and you're instead trying to go to the Clippers in any way possible? He would have taken Jimmy with him if Jimmy didn't want to be in Miami. Anyone.
I can't wait to see the looks on people's faces when Lebron and AD actually play some games. Lots of people have this feeling that we're not going to be all that good. No worries. Kawhi had 1 playoffs like Lebron has had for a decade. AD is what every big strives to be coming into the draft. He has still not peaked as a player, and can get a lot smarter (I'd sign Pau Gasol as a mentor FA).
Lets see what happens in April/May/June 2020. Lets see where you're at Kawhi.
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:52 am Post subject:
Yup he and his camp had ill intent toward the Lakers the whole time. I hope Bron and AD crush these snakes. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:52 am Post subject:
4stargeneralbulldog wrote:
What happened? I thought our Laker insiders like Ysong, RDA Ambition said it was a done deal that Kawhi will be a Laker?
and Ysong kept telling us to practice "patience". ok, lol
and when I and other said KL was a bleep for dragging this on so long, some posters said KL doesn't owe anyone anything, and he's making a life altering decision, etcetcetc. ok, lol
Simply another dastardly case of using the Lakers for leverage.
Happens all the time.
We were the back-up plan in the off-chance that the clippers wouldn't be able to secure a 2nd superstar.
Teams were told to avoid leaking details of negotiations specifically to prevent the lakers from figuring out that we're being used to pressure the Clippers into doing everything they can to secure PG13. If word got out from either the Clips or Raptors that Kawhi is asking those 2 teams to tradr for a 2nd superstar, lakers would have withdrawn immediately.
We were played. No way around it. Dunno if we should blame the FO. Nobody saw this coming. They played it perfectly.
exactly snake had a conspiracy setup and we were always choice number 3 _________________ 11/9/12 the day the brown was flushed down!!!!!!
What happened? I thought our Laker insiders like Ysong, RDA Ambition said it was a done deal that Kawhi will be a Laker?
Seems like Kawhi was telling everybody he was likely to sign with them, but also told them to keep quiet. Lakers insiders and Raptors insiders both thought they were 99%. Never heard anything about the Clippers.
Basically the Kawhi the prick, wanted the Clippers all along, used the Lakers are leverage. Tried first to get any other FA star like Butler, Durant, etc to team up. They all had other plans. So then he was resided to going back to Toronto or signing with the Lakers. He waited, knowing it would give Clippers time. And him to convince someone else.
I dunno about the rest of you. But (bleep) Kawhi. This is worse than what Dwight or anyone. He literally was looking for a reason every single time not to play with Lebron. Dude, we're going to have to FORCE you to be part of one of the greatest trios (talent wise at least, not sure how it would have worked in reality with egos and all that) of all time and you're instead trying to go to the Clippers in any way possible? He would have taken Jimmy with him if Jimmy didn't want to be in Miami. Anyone.
I can't wait to see the looks on people's faces when Lebron and AD actually play some games. Lots of people have this feeling that we're not going to be all that good. No worries. Kawhi had 1 playoffs like Lebron has had for a decade. AD is what every big strives to be coming into the draft. He has still not peaked as a player, and can get a lot smarter (I'd sign Pau Gasol as a mentor FA).
Lets see what happens in April/May/June 2020. Lets see where you're at Kawhi.
Wolfie!!!!!!great post from old school poster makes me feel better, been up all night since the announcement its 8am and I'm still livid _________________ 11/9/12 the day the brown was flushed down!!!!!!
Basically the Kawhi the prick, wanted the Clippers all along, used the Lakers are leverage. Tried first to get any other FA star like Butler, Durant, etc to team up. They all had other plans. So then he was resided to going back to Toronto or signing with the Lakers. He waited, knowing it would give Clippers time. And him to convince someone else.
I dunno about the rest of you. But (bleep) Kawhi. This is worse than what Dwight or anyone. He literally was looking for a reason every single time not to play with Lebron. Dude, we're going to have to FORCE you to be part of one of the greatest trios (talent wise at least, not sure how it would have worked in reality with egos and all that) of all time and you're instead trying to go to the Clippers in any way possible? He would have taken Jimmy with him if Jimmy didn't want to be in Miami. Anyone.
I can't wait to see the looks on people's faces when Lebron and AD actually play some games. Lots of people have this feeling that we're not going to be all that good. No worries. Kawhi had 1 playoffs like Lebron has had for a decade. AD is what every big strives to be coming into the draft. He has still not peaked as a player, and can get a lot smarter (I'd sign Pau Gasol as a mentor FA).
Lets see what happens in April/May/June 2020. Lets see where you're at Kawhi.
Lost a lot of respect for Kawhi, the stuff he lulled was bush league. And no FA have ever done anything close to this, yes, even that DeAndre Jordan stunt few years back.
You simply don’t play an organization like this and mess up their plans.
Basically the lakers were told to be spare tire in case the clippers can’t land another star. This indecisive bs was never the case, had the clippers landed KD or Jimmy, Kawhi would’ve signed the first day like others.
I actually feel better that JB and KD both rejected him, otherwise the clippers wouldn’t need to give up their future.
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