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Are you happy about Vogel becoming our coach?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
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Amazing that hiring a legit offensive guru was a lesser priority than bringing on Kidd and Hollins because the FO likes them, and not because they're even experts in any particular area. I'm horrified that Kidd is going to end up being in charge of the offense.


The irony is that Kidd was hired to be a mentor for Lonzo who isn't even here anymore. So why is Kidd still?


To mentor AC Fresh?


We already knew we were going to pursue the AD trade before Kidd was even hired. There was always a strong possibility Lonzo was going to be part of that trade so this narrative of Kidd being hired mainly to be his tutor doesn't make a lot of sense. If we had managed to keep Lonzo it would have been a bonus.

What makes more sense is Lebron and Kidd are friends and that he's here to perform the TLue role when he was an A/C under Blatt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:37 am    Post subject:

So glad Lukes not in charge of this roster.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject:

Vogel has some nice defensive pieces that should work in tandem. Gotta optimize this talent, Coach.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject:

If he brings that defense he had in Indy will be in great shape. The offense is good and will take care if itself
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:10 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
JKidd here to:

1. Take Vogel’s job
2. Tell everyone to listen to Lebron


3. Recruit Giannis in 2021
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:55 am    Post subject:

IMO Vogel, Kidd and Hollins as coaches are equivaltent to Rondo, Beasley and Lance as players.. do not like them at all
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject:

lakerboy wrote:
IMO Vogel, Kidd and Hollins as coaches are equivaltent to Rondo, Beasley and Lance as players.. do not like them at all


Not sure how you draw that conclusion. Can you elaborate? When you mention Rondo, at this point in his career I see his benefit as mentor is probably greater than what he'll give you on the court even though I think he'll still bring it at times during games.

I see this squad as being built for Vogel's coaching style given we have a couple of superstars surrounded by smart role players.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:29 am    Post subject:

so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:34 am    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists


Has Ron Adams given us a yes or no yet?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:17 am    Post subject:

I don't know if others have read Cranjis' breakdown of Vogel's offensive schemes based on past NBA coaching stints but it's interesting to read. At the time he wrote it (May 2019), he was not enthusiastic about the hire because he was basing the projected fit on the core roster of Lebron/Ingram/Lonzo and very little perimeter shooting we had last season.

https://www.bball-index.com/frank-vogel/

After reading it, I'm suspecting the moves we made weren't just random BPA roster additions but are to construct the roster to fit into those offensive schemes.

I don't know if an A/C will be hired to design an offense for this team or whether it will rely heavily on Vogel's preferences, but I do think it's a good thing we waited until the roster was formed before just hiring a well-known name whose offensive philosophies may not match the roster.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:23 am    Post subject:

Super Mega Team wrote:
audioaxes wrote:
so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists


Has Ron Adams given us a yes or no yet?


I'd like to know this as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
Super Mega Team wrote:
audioaxes wrote:
so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists


Has Ron Adams given us a yes or no yet?


I'd like to know this as well.


It was a no. And with signing Rondo and Cousins and the FO micromanaging, I already feel sorry for Vogel.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:04 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
Super Mega Team wrote:
audioaxes wrote:
so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists


Has Ron Adams given us a yes or no yet?


I'd like to know this as well.


It was a no. And with signing Rondo and Cousins and the FO micromanaging, I already feel sorry for Vogel.


Link? I haven’t seen/heard this anywhere.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject:

He started a consulting business
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:15 am    Post subject:

Rubin wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
Super Mega Team wrote:
audioaxes wrote:
so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists


Has Ron Adams given us a yes or no yet?


I'd like to know this as well.


It was a no. And with signing Rondo and Cousins and the FO micromanaging, I already feel sorry for Vogel.


Link? I haven’t seen/heard this anywhere.


Neither has he.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject:

"Basically," Kerr told The Athletic's Tim Kawakami on Wednesday. "We talked about the LA situation. I called him to tell him that they had asked permission and that we would grant it.

"And so I don't know if they've spoken with him yet, and I don't know what his final answer would be. I don't even know what they would be offering him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject:

I believe Vogel can Maximize this roster. Remember when he was with the Pacers he made guys like Roy Hibbert and Lance Stephenson look like allstars. Now he has real allstars and a better overall roster. Vogel is the defensive coach this team needed for years.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:29 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
He started a consulting business


Again, link?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject:

numero-ocho wrote:
Judah wrote:
Amazing that hiring a legit offensive guru was a lesser priority than bringing on Kidd and Hollins because the FO likes them, and not because they're even experts in any particular area. I'm horrified that Kidd is going to end up being in charge of the offense.


Seeing as how the offensive weapons have changed dramatically from last season I'm glad we waited.

That doesn't make any difference. A sharp offensive mind is a sharp offensive mind. If he's really a specialist, he'll know how to design an offense that maximizes the makeup of the roster, regardless of what players are on it. If he'd only be good for one group he's not a specialist.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:25 pm    Post subject:

Are we ever planning to get another coach on the staff or what?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:59 pm    Post subject:

Someone provide a recap of Clifton's interview with Vogel when it airs on Spectrum.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:04 pm    Post subject:

lakerboy wrote:
IMO Vogel, Kidd and Hollins as coaches are equivaltent to Rondo, Beasley and Lance as players.. do not like them at all


I agree with Kidd and Hollins but Vogel has some talent. I'd compare him to Javale if we're using last seasons meme squad signings. He's a big upgrade over Luke even though I preferred Ty Lue over Vogel.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject:

Rubin wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
He started a consulting business


Again, link?


VLF makes (bleep) up almost all the time. He's the biggest gas lighter in the history of sports forums
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
lakerboy wrote:
IMO Vogel, Kidd and Hollins as coaches are equivaltent to Rondo, Beasley and Lance as players.. do not like them at all


I agree with Kidd and Hollins but Vogel has some talent. I'd compare him to Javale if we're using last seasons meme squad signings. He's a big upgrade over Luke even though I preferred Ty Lue over Vogel.

Vogel is perfect for us. He made Hibbert an all star.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:29 pm    Post subject:

Hollins will likely be the brain trust behind the 'twin towers' situation with Boogie and Davis.
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