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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:24 am    Post subject:

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It would have been a complete disaster had we lost DG to the mavs too


This can't be stressed enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:55 am    Post subject:

Green's advanced stats are stellar. Great signing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:23 am    Post subject:

Danny Green was a great signing.
He is a proven winner.
And fills a position of need.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:36 am    Post subject:

Wide open 3's for him. Lol. When AD, Lebron and Cousins are on the floor with Green, the defense will have no choice to have guys help or cheat into the paint off Green.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:40 am    Post subject:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this might be the best 3 pt shooting team we've had in quite awhile.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:03 am    Post subject:

TV analysts have already forgotten about him. First and biggest money signing for the Lakers this offseason and I rarely hear a mention of him. All I hear about is how the Lakers defense is iffy and they talk about Rondo (rightfully so) and LeBron taking plays off (when he's still a net positive on D) and AD being a "pretty good defender" (way to play down his actual impact). Little to no mentions of Green. He's gonna make 3 to 4 3's per game while playing great perimeter defense. Dude's a gamer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject:

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TV analysts have already forgotten about him. First and biggest money signing for the Lakers this offseason and I rarely hear a mention of him. All I hear about is how the Lakers defense is iffy and they talk about Rondo (rightfully so) and LeBron taking plays off (when he's still a net positive on D) and AD being a "pretty good defender" (way to play down his actual impact). Little to no mentions of Green. He's gonna make 3 to 4 3's per game while playing great perimeter defense. Dude's a gamer.


Plus the guy knows how to spot a winner. He said he signed with us because we were the best team in the league with Lebron/AD. He knows how to capitalize on the attention stars get. This guy is going to bail us out time and time again when our stars get doubled. The fact that our 2 best players are also excellent passers means he'll be getting a ton of open looks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:33 am    Post subject:

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Plus the guy knows how to spot a winner. He said he signed with us because we were the best team in the league with Lebron/AD. He knows how to capitalize on the attention stars get. This guy is going to bail us out time and time again when our stars get doubled. The fact that our 2 best players are also excellent passers means he'll be getting a ton of open looks.


The bolded is so so true. I would guess that Green is going to be our defensive coordinator on the court. So much of defense is predicated on scheme, effort and philosophy. Most teams that are good to great on defense only have 3 to 4 plus defenders if that. They're not loaded with 10 plus defenders. Do you have the right defensive anchor, like Gobert in Utah? Who else is a great defender for the Jazz? But they will be good defensively because of the scheme and of course, Gobert. The Lakers are going to be much better on D than the pundits think because there are plus defenders on the roster, with AD being criminally undervalued by them, and Vogel is a defensive head coach.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:24 am    Post subject:

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this might be the best 3 pt shooting team we've had in quite awhile.


Quite a change in philosophy from Magic's "all-playmakers, no shooters" one last offseason.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:28 am    Post subject:

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The bolded is so so true. I would guess that Green is going to be our defensive coordinator on the court. So much of defense is predicated on scheme, effort and philosophy. Most teams that are good to great on defense only have 3 to 4 plus defenders if that. They're not loaded with 10 plus defenders. Do you have the right defensive anchor, like Gobert in Utah? Who else is a great defender for the Jazz? But they will be good defensively because of the scheme and of course, Gobert. The Lakers are going to be much better on D than the pundits think because there are plus defenders on the roster, with AD being criminally undervalued by them, and Vogel is a defensive head coach.


I was thinking this as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:28 am    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
FanOfFour wrote:
TV analysts have already forgotten about him. First and biggest money signing for the Lakers this offseason and I rarely hear a mention of him. All I hear about is how the Lakers defense is iffy and they talk about Rondo (rightfully so) and LeBron taking plays off (when he's still a net positive on D) and AD being a "pretty good defender" (way to play down his actual impact). Little to no mentions of Green. He's gonna make 3 to 4 3's per game while playing great perimeter defense. Dude's a gamer.


Plus the guy knows how to spot a winner. He said he signed with us because we were the best team in the league with Lebron/AD. He knows how to capitalize on the attention stars get. This guy is going to bail us out time and time again when our stars get doubled. The fact that our 2 best players are also excellent passers means he'll be getting a ton of open looks.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:57 am    Post subject:

"Defense wins championships"

*Danny Green speaks about commitment to defense

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Danny Green recently spoke to Frank Vogel about his commitment to the defensive end of the court for the Los Angeles Lakers this coming season.



https://lakeshowlife.com/2019/07/22/los-angeles-lakers-danny-green-speaks-commitment-defense/

IMO Danny Green is the perfect complementary role player. He knows his role and he plays it well. But first and foremost Danny Green is a winner, period!

He has a lot of playoff experience (124 play-off games). He is a two-time NBA champion plus he won an NCAA title with North Carolina in 2009.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:59 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
"Defense wins championships"

*Danny Green speaks about commitment to defense

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Danny Green recently spoke to Frank Vogel about his commitment to the defensive end of the court for the Los Angeles Lakers this coming season.



https://lakeshowlife.com/2019/07/22/los-angeles-lakers-danny-green-speaks-commitment-defense/

IMO Danny Green is the perfect complementary role player. He knows his role and he plays it well. But first and foremost Danny Green is a winner, period!

He has a lot of playoff experience (124 play-off games). He is a two-time NBA champion plus he won an NCAA title with North Carolina in 2009.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:12 am    Post subject:

I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject:

I get 08-10 vibes from this roster but as far as our top 2 I can't help but see young Kareem/old Magic rather than the other way around. That dynamic makes this season really interesting to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:26 am    Post subject:

MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...

Been saying this the most talented team we’ve had(on paper) since those years. Good depth and 2 superstars to lead the way
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:30 am    Post subject:

MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:35 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.

Good thing we have AD then
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:45 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.


Yeah, current Bron is more like the post-repeat Kobe of 2011-13. Still potent on offense, but clearly not the same player defensively. Hopefully, he escapes the catastrophic injury that plagued old Kobe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:44 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.


Lebron is still in his prime and still the best player in the NBA. He is not at his peak anymore, but he is still in his prime. Though to be honest when this Lebron is going all out I don't see any drop off from his peak self. The difference is that older Lebron has to save his energy and pick and chose when to dominate which he mainly saves for the playoffs these days while the younger Lebron could do it throughout all of the regular season plus the playoffs. Just last year Lebron nearly put up a 50 point triple double on the Warriors in the NBA finals (and the Cavs were robbed of that game).
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venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.


Yeah, current Bron is more like the post-repeat Kobe of 2011-13. Still potent on offense, but clearly not the same player defensively. Hopefully, he escapes the catastrophic injury that plagued old Kobe.


I'd say Bron is 2010 Kobe in this metaphor... 2012 Kobe sank us in the playoffs against OKC :/

Kobe's physical prime ended in 07' ; although that drop wasn't crazy noticeable in 08'.
09+10 Kobe wasn't the same athlete or defender from near a handful of years prior, just like Bron.
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LandsbergerRules wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.


Yeah, current Bron is more like the post-repeat Kobe of 2011-13. Still potent on offense, but clearly not the same player defensively. Hopefully, he escapes the catastrophic injury that plagued old Kobe.


I'd say Bron is 2010 Kobe in this metaphor... 2012 Kobe sank us in the playoffs against OKC :/

Kobe's physical prime ended in 07' ; although that drop wasn't crazy noticeable in 08'.
09+10 Kobe wasn't the same athlete or defender from near a handful of years prior, just like Bron.


I mean Kobe wasn't hitting his three's but he still averaged per game: 31pts 5rebs 3.5asts 9ftm 1.6stls in that series. He was still a top 5 player at minimum
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Lucky_Shot wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
LandsbergerRules wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.


Yeah, current Bron is more like the post-repeat Kobe of 2011-13. Still potent on offense, but clearly not the same player defensively. Hopefully, he escapes the catastrophic injury that plagued old Kobe.


I'd say Bron is 2010 Kobe in this metaphor... 2012 Kobe sank us in the playoffs against OKC :/

Kobe's physical prime ended in 07' ; although that drop wasn't crazy noticeable in 08'.
09+10 Kobe wasn't the same athlete or defender from near a handful of years prior, just like Bron.


I mean Kobe wasn't hitting his three's but he still averaged per game: 31pts 5rebs 3.5asts 9ftm 1.6stls in that series. He was still a top 5 player at minimum


he completely shot us out in key moments in games we lost. he ball hogged to a point it hurt me. lol
He was obviously still a top 5 player, I mean, even the next year he was, probably. I don't foresee Bron having anything short of great-ish playoff series for us this year.. So I think he's above '11-12 Kobe.
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
LandsbergerRules wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Only Kobe was in his prime then, Lebron is past his. He will need to battle injury.


Yeah, current Bron is more like the post-repeat Kobe of 2011-13. Still potent on offense, but clearly not the same player defensively. Hopefully, he escapes the catastrophic injury that plagued old Kobe.


I'd say Bron is 2010 Kobe in this metaphor... 2012 Kobe sank us in the playoffs against OKC :/

Kobe's physical prime ended in 07' ; although that drop wasn't crazy noticeable in 08'.
09+10 Kobe wasn't the same athlete or defender from near a handful of years prior, just like Bron.


I mean Kobe wasn't hitting his three's but he still averaged per game: 31pts 5rebs 3.5asts 9ftm 1.6stls in that series. He was still a top 5 player at minimum


he completely shot us out in key moments in games we lost. he ball hogged to a point it hurt me. lol
He was obviously still a top 5 player, I mean, even the next year he was, probably. I don't foresee Bron having anything short of great-ish playoff series for us this year.. So I think he's above '11-12 Kobe.


They were against a better team. Kobe didn't shoot us out of key moments, he kept the ship a float as long as he could before the better team just won.

I think LBJ is going to do great things this season and I totally agree with similarity between the 2010 Lakers and the 2020 Lakers. Just dont think there was much of a difference between 2010 KB and 2012 KB. Also LBJ isn't better than 2012 KB but thats my opinion
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject:

MIMLaker wrote:
I'm starting to see parallels between the Kobe 2.0 teams from 2008-2010. Seriously.

A ball-dominant superstar with terrific play-making ability but fighting the rep that no one wants to play with him? Then Kobe, now LeBron.

A multi-skilled big-man with a strong face-up game who put up great numbers on a lower-end playoff team but could not lead that team anywhere? Then Pau, now AD.

A 3 & D specialist with championship experience on the north end of 30, one who's expected to be leader but will never be more than a complementary player? Then Fish, now Green.

A massive, potentially dominating center with surprising shooting ability but a troubling history of leg injuries and maturity issues? Then Bynum, now Cousins.

A multi-skilled , mobile forward coming off the bench that's beloved by fans with coaches wondering if he'll ever take "the next step' to becoming a dominant player? Then Odom, now Kuz.

Just sayin'...


Then Artest....now Iguodala? One can hope.
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