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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject:

If he bolts, we are literally screwed for a decade.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject:

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If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


Because keeping fear instilled is what gives potential free-agents power. That comes right out of the Lebron James playbook.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:34 pm    Post subject:

Would it be possible for AD to transition into more of a ball in hand type of player like Giannis and/or KD? It would be pretty big for him not to have to rely on anyone.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:38 pm    Post subject:

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Would it be possible for AD to transition into more of a ball in hand type of player like Giannis and/or KD? It would be pretty big for him not to have to rely on anyone.


after LeBron retires
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:50 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
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If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


In the interview, he also said he wants to make his own decisions and that other people made it for him all these years. The point of free agency is to be independent and make the decision yourself. So I don't blame him for not committing to anything right now because that defeats the purpose of free agency.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:27 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
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Would it be possible for AD to transition into more of a ball in hand type of player like Giannis and/or KD? It would be pretty big for him not to have to rely on anyone.


after LeBron retires


He'll learn plenty from LeBron, and get plenty of opportunity when LeBron is out/sitting/LeCoasting.

He did it in NOLA. Wish I was able to format this better, oh well.

Anthony Davis:

Season Age AST% USG% TOV%

2012-13 19 6.1 21.8 10.3
2013-14 20 8 25.2 8.3
2014-15 21 11.6 27.8 6.3
2015-16 22 10 29.6 8.4
2016-17 23 11.1 32.6 9.1
2017-18 24 10.8 30 8.6
2018-19 25 19 29.5 8.4
Career 10.8 28.3 8.4

Giannis A:


Season Age AST% USG% TOV%

2013-14 19 12.1 15 19.4
2014-15 20 13.1 19.6 15.6
2015-16 21 20 22.3 14.8
2016-17 22 26.6 28.3 13.3
2017-18 23 23.7 31.2 11.7
2018-19 24 30.3 32.3 14.8
Career 21.4 25.2 14.2

Kevin Durant:

Season Age AST% USG% TOV%

2007-08 19 12 28.1 12.9
2008-09 20 13.5 28.3 12.2
2009-10 21 13.5 32 11.7
2010-11 22 13.2 30.6 10.6
2011-12 23 17.5 31.3 14
2012-13 24 21.7 29.8 13.7
2013-14 25 26.7 33 12.2
2014-15 26 22.2 29.1 12
2015-16 27 24.2 30.6 13.5
2016-17 28 23.1 27.8 10.4
2017-18 29 25.5 30.4 12.9
2018-19 30 26.2 29 12.3
Career 19.6 30.1 12.4[/list]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:39 pm    Post subject:

numero-ocho wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


Because keeping fear instilled is what gives potential free-agents power. That comes right out of the Lebron James playbook.


Agreed. He started this whole "player empowerment" era.
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LandsbergerRules wrote:
numero-ocho wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


Because keeping fear instilled is what gives potential free-agents power. That comes right out of the Lebron James playbook.


Agreed. He started this whole "player empowerment" era.


Yeah, it's not like Kareem demanded a trade to the Lakers or Knicks in 1974....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject:

RG73 wrote:
LandsbergerRules wrote:
numero-ocho wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


Because keeping fear instilled is what gives potential free-agents power. That comes right out of the Lebron James playbook.


Agreed. He started this whole "player empowerment" era.


Yeah, it's not like Kareem demanded a trade to the Lakers or Knicks in 1974....


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:30 pm    Post subject:

It means diddly poop what he says right now in either direction. Just ask Kyrie
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:40 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.



Superstars rarely give verbal commitments a year in advance of signing. My guess is AD has ever intention of signing a max deal with us, but sure there's always the possibility that something weird will happen and he won't. That's just life -- it rarely comes with ironclad guarantees.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject:

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It means diddly poop what he says right now in either direction. Just ask Kyrie



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:44 pm    Post subject:

Honestly anyone who's worried about Davis leaving is just the worrying type in general. There's every reason to believe he'll stay and no particular reason to think he'll leave.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.



Superstars rarely give verbal commitments a year in advance of signing. My guess is AD has ever intention of signing a max deal with us, but sure there's always the possibility that something weird will happen and he won't. That's just life -- it rarely comes with ironclad guarantees.


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


The window is open that he might bolt
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


The window is open that he might bolt

It's also possible that you might start posting better content, but what's the point in worrying about minuscule probabilities?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:05 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


The window is open that he might bolt

Hogwash. AD isn't saying it out loud simply because it's not the done thing to publicly admit you'd prefer to opt out and re-sign than sign an extension in order to collect a bigger pay-check.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:41 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.


The window is open that he might bolt


It’s technically possible, but AD and Rich Paul didn’t do everything they did just for AD to leave LeBron and the Lakers after one year.

To me, the more interesting question is whether he takes a full 5-year max, a 2+1 (like Kawhi) or a 1+1 to line up with Lebron’s remaining contract. If he did the last one, I would not feel good about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject:

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If he bolts, we are literally screwed for a decade.


That's nuts. It would definitely put a wrench in our plans.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 pm    Post subject:

I hope he bolts be another major headache,
We need to rebuild through the draft
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PostMalone24 wrote:
I hope he bolts be another major headache,
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:27 pm    Post subject:

AD at Bron's house.



Already building that chemistry
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:40 pm    Post subject:

Is this what we are doing now? We are gonna worry about him leaving before he even plays a game? Wow, the media really plays mind games with fans and we fall for it every time. AD is going nowhere. It’s just something that the media will continuously bring up to stir the pot and keep the drama going with the Lakers because that sells. They will leave out the facts that its in his best financial interest to not sign an extension and go into Free agency and re-sign. Nope, they will continue to push the “what if he leaves” narrative to keep everybody ( Laker fans) on edge and give hope to others( knicks fans) that they may have a shot at signing him next summer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject:

lordtrapula wrote:
AD at Bron's house.



Already building that chemistry


Too much wine for Bron again.
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activeverb wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
If AD signed an extension he would be extending his current contract that was based on 25% of the cap at the time he signed. If he opts out after this season he can sign a new contract worth 30% of next year’s cap. That will be a much higher salary.


I get it, but why not at least say that to allay fears? At least rhetorically he's leaving the window wide open that he might bolt.



Superstars rarely give verbal commitments a year in advance of signing. My guess is AD has ever intention of signing a max deal with us, but sure there's always the possibility that something weird will happen and he won't. That's just life -- it rarely comes with ironclad guarantees.


True and even though they may give a verbal agreement (like Kyrie, Boston and “I wanna be here long term if you’ll have me”) it doesn’t mean much anyways.
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