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Lakersfield Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Did the Lakers get damaged goods from the Pistons. He just had a operation on his back and the Knicks revised his contract way down. His play was really bad and maybe the bad back was the reason. _________________ Started posting on Lakersground when it was lakers/rivals.com since Aug.2000. |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 18190 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lakersfield wrote: | Did the Lakers get damaged goods from the Pistons. He just had a operation on his back and the Knicks revised his contract way down. His play was really bad and maybe the bad back was the reason. |
Remember the days when trades got nullified because a guy didn't pass a physical? Have they just done away with that? Someone said Ingram and Lonzo didn't take physicals which I thought was crazy. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 12712
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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We gave up Svi and a 2nd rounder for damaged goods. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | We gave up Svi and a 2nd rounder for damaged goods. |
we'll buy more 2nd rounders |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | We gave up Svi and a 2nd rounder for damaged goods. |
Neither trade was any good - last moment heaves from Pelinka and Magic to try and get LBJ some shooters to make a playoff run. Didn't work. Hindsight though, Svi I don't think will be a significant player on a roster like we have now. And as far as Zubac, no way we were re-signing him. He was going to be let go because at that price, Lakers were not gonna try to keep him. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:24 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Ziggy wrote: | We gave up Svi and a 2nd rounder for damaged goods. |
Neither trade was any good - last moment heaves from Pelinka and Magic to try and get LBJ some shooters to make a playoff run. Didn't work. Hindsight though, Svi I don't think will be a significant player on a roster like we have now. And as far as Zubac, no way we were re-signing him. He was going to be let go because at that price, Lakers were not gonna try to keep him. |
Agree about Svi having a low ceiling but the point is he would've done more for us than a broken Bullock. So we basically just gave him away for free and even lost a pick for a guy who hid an injury. Watch Bullock start knocking down 3's like Steph again now that his back is fixed.
I understand trading Zubac for financial reasons but not for garbage like Muscala. We should've gotten a pick back in that trade. Magic undervalued Zubac. We're fine at the center position but we desperately need picks right now.
I trust our scouting department to find gems late in the draft. They've earned that trust from me. If we had this scout team during the Shaq/Kobe era then that dynasty would've lasted longer imo. We can't just let our stars wither away without surrounding them with youth. That's how Pop extended the Duncan/Manu/TP era. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I think we would have traded Svi out anyways to squeeze out a 32m max slot.
I thought the trade for Bullock was sensible as he had a sterling reputation as a 3 point shooter. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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oldschool32 Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 20032
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:35 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Ziggy wrote: | We gave up Svi and a 2nd rounder for damaged goods. |
Neither trade was any good - last moment heaves from Pelinka and Magic to try and get LBJ some shooters to make a playoff run. Didn't work. Hindsight though, Svi I don't think will be a significant player on a roster like we have now. And as far as Zubac, no way we were re-signing him. He was going to be let go because at that price, Lakers were not gonna try to keep him. |
I dont think Svi would be a big contributor to the LBJ led Lakers, but he would definitely be a good fit around AD post LBJ. He needs a little development and time to adjust to the speed of the NBA and then I think he can eventually be a knock down shooter. Probably what everyone hoped KCP had developed into. I would have liked the Lakers to have kept him, as his handles and decent athleticism were an added bonus. I know the Pistons are very high on him. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest |
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KOBE WAN Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 May 2012 Posts: 508
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Was at summer league quartet finals last weekend and was watching him a lot. He had a good break ankles side step 3 point shot but that was it. Had 5 Pts for the game I think. |
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shakobe24 Rookie
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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With Bullock gone the Eddie Jones trade chain is finally finished. One of my favourite Laker sub-plots, the trade that kept on giving. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 11591 Location: Stay Thirsty my Friends
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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In before move to the General Forum...! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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shakobe24 wrote: | With Bullock gone the Eddie Jones trade chain is finally finished. One of my favourite Laker sub-plots, the trade that kept on giving. |
Interesting. Can you elaborate? _________________ KOBE |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 22734 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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shakobe24 wrote: | With Bullock gone the Eddie Jones trade chain is finally finished. One of my favourite Laker sub-plots, the trade that kept on giving. |
Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell for Glen Rice. Eventually Rice was traded to NY in 4 team trade that netted us Horace Grant for the title defense in 2001.
Whatever subplot you're talking about is probably at best, a reach. But please do elaborate. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:08 am Post subject: |
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He signed up for minimum? |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 18190 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | He signed up for minimum? |
Room Exception according to Spotrac (2yr/$8.2 million) so I guess he lost almost $13 million as his original contract was reportedly 2yr/$21 million.
Now I'm reading he's out indefinitely following surgery. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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Pureshot77 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | shakobe24 wrote: | With Bullock gone the Eddie Jones trade chain is finally finished. One of my favourite Laker sub-plots, the trade that kept on giving. |
Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell for Glen Rice. Eventually Rice was traded to NY in 4 team trade that netted us Horace Grant for the title defense in 2001.
Whatever subplot you're talking about is probably at best, a reach. But please do elaborate. |
This actually piqued my interest so I did a little digging. I'm leaving out some of the side details of each deal but here is how I would summarize it.
Eddie Jones-> Glen Rice -> Lindsey Hunter -> Draft rights of 2009 2nd rd. pick (Pat Beverley) -> Draft rights of 2011 2nd rd. pick Ater Matok -> Jose Calderon and the pick that would become Svi. |
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shakobe24 Rookie
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Pureshot77 wrote: | Runway8 wrote: | shakobe24 wrote: | With Bullock gone the Eddie Jones trade chain is finally finished. One of my favourite Laker sub-plots, the trade that kept on giving. |
Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell for Glen Rice. Eventually Rice was traded to NY in 4 team trade that netted us Horace Grant for the title defense in 2001.
Whatever subplot you're talking about is probably at best, a reach. But please do elaborate. |
This actually piqued my interest so I did a little digging. I'm leaving out some of the side details of each deal but here is how I would summarize it.
Eddie Jones-> Glen Rice -> Lindsey Hunter -> Draft rights of 2009 2nd rd. pick (Pat Beverley) -> Draft rights of 2011 2nd rd. pick Ater Matok -> Jose Calderon and the pick that would become Svi. |
I think the whole chain is this: Eddie Jones -> Glen Rice-> Greg Foster->Lindsey Hunter->Kareem Rush->Patrick Beverley->Ater Majok->Svi. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Pureshot77 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Smooth operator |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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This thread has stayed in The Lounge forever. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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