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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject:

Study: Spacing Babies Close Raises Autism Risk

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CHICAGO -- Close birth spacing may put a second-born child at higher risk for autism, suggests a preliminary study based on more than a half-million California children.

Children born less than two years after their siblings were considerably more likely to have an autism diagnosis compared to those born after at least three years.

The sooner the second child was conceived the greater the likelihood of that child later being diagnosed with autism. The effect was found for parents of all ages, decreasing the chance that it was older parents and not the birth spacing behind the higher risk.

"That was pretty shocking to us, to be honest," said senior author Peter Bearman of Columbia University in New York. The researchers took into account other risk factors for autism and still saw the effect of birth spacing.

"No matter what we did, whether we were looking at autism severity, looking at age, or looking at all the various dimensions we could think of, we couldn't get rid of this finding," Bearman said. Still, he said more studies are needed to confirm the birth spacing link.


On a side note: Our 4 month old is due for her second round of vaccinations tomorrow. We spread them out to once a week and our doctor agreed to it. If there is a reaction g-d forbid, we'd like to know to which vaccine is the culprit and to avoid it in the future.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject:

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ANTI-VACCINE DOCTOR PLANNED TO PROFIT FROM SCARE

Almost exactly one year ago, on Jan. 28, 2010, Andrew Wakefield, the doctor whose 1998 research sparked international concern over whether childhood vaccines cause autism, was found guilty by a British panel of acting unethically in his research on autism. Shortly afterward, The Lancet, which originally published his findings, reviewed his original study and issued a complete retraction.

In May Wakefield was stripped of his license to practice medicine in the United Kingdom. Then last week an editorial in the BMJ (formerly known as the British Medical Journal) called his actions not merely poor research but "deliberate fraud."

Just when it seems the scandal can't get any worse, it does.

According to new research published in today's BMJ, Wakefield's motive for the fraud was money -- and lots of it. Wakefield "planned secret businesses intended to make huge sums of money, in Britain and America, from his now-discredited allegations," according to a BMJ press release.

Conspiracy theorists are fond of saying "follow the money," and that's exactly what investigative journalist Brian Deer did.

In "Secrets of the MMR scare," the second part of a BMJ series of special reports on the Wakefield scandal, Deer shows how Wakefield's institution, the Royal Free Medical School in London, supported him as he sought to exploit the vaccine scare for his personal financial gain.

Deer reveals how Wakefield met with medical school managers to discuss joint business deals even while the first child to be fully investigated in his research was still in the hospital. Wakefield planned to make a fortune developing his own supposedly safer vaccines and diagnostic testing kits once the public's confidence in the safety of current vaccines was shaken.

According to Deer, Wakefield expected to earn over $40 million each year from selling his diagnostic kits -- a fact at odds with Wakefield's portrayal of himself as a selfless researcher whose only motivation was helping children harmed by vaccines.

Wakefield's research has been questioned for years, and many large-scale studies have found no evidence of any link between vaccines and autism.

Still, Wakefield remains a hero to a small group of conspiracy theorists who claim that the medical establishment is trying to silence this supposedly brave doctor who dared to speak the truth.

The parents of children who have been needlessly injured (or even killed) as a result of Wakefield's fraud may feel differently.

http://news.discovery.com/human/anti-vaccine-doctor-planned-to-profit-from-scare.html


Lock him up and throw away the key. As far as I'm concerned, the guy is guilty of several hundred counts of murder. The worst part is all the parents who are still making terrible choices based on this guy's original work and all of the anti-vax scare that was conjured up afterwards.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject:

The guy is a bonafide monster. We're lucky that the fallout (i.e. the amount of our childrens blood on his hands) isn't as bad as it could have been.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: to vaccinate or not?

GoldenChild wrote:
I'm nervous about getting my two daughters the measles vaccine... heard alot of bad stuff about it and it's a live virus type. What should I do?

Also I read this article about vaccines and it kind of freaks me out:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/01/Swine-Flu-Shot-Linked-to-Killer-Nerve-Disease.aspx


I really like the source that you have shared with all of us and i would like to recommend you to vaccinate it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject:

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anti-vax loser throws menstrual blood at California senators

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:21 am    Post subject:

The whole anti-vax movement is a pretty good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:31 am    Post subject:

Holy zombie bump, Batman.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:02 am    Post subject:

Just why is this a thing?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject:

^^^^^
Because we should all take our medical advice from Bunnies
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:57 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
^^^^^
Because we should all take our medical advice from Bunnies


I'm going to try and forget how many times I did stuff to myself as a teen because she was so hot.

I have since learned about crazy stuff like personality.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject:

Hector the Pup wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
^^^^^
Because we should all take our medical advice from Bunnies


I'm going to try and forget how many times I did stuff to myself as a teen because she was so hot.

I have since learned about crazy stuff like personality.


Though, "crazy" could be pretty fun back in the younger days.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:33 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
^^^^^
Because we should all take our medical advice from Bunnies


I'm going to try and forget how many times I did stuff to myself as a teen because she was so hot.

I have since learned about crazy stuff like personality.


Though, "crazy" could be pretty fun back in the younger days.


It was but has long since been relegated to the I don't want to deal with (language edited) pile.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:46 pm    Post subject:

Hector the Pup wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
^^^^^
Because we should all take our medical advice from Bunnies


I'm going to try and forget how many times I did stuff to myself as a teen because she was so hot.

I have since learned about crazy stuff like personality.


Though, "crazy" could be pretty fun back in the younger days.


It was but has long since been relegated to the I don't want to deal with (language edited) pile.


Yep.
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