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TIC_Oner Sixth Man
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: O'Neil on the block? |
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http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_20415.shtml
Informed sources near the Indiana Pacers situation suggest that Jermaine O'Neal may be a lot closer to being dealt than even he will admit. A few weeks ago, O'Neal announced that if he could not get the Pacers turned around, maybe it was time for him to go.
That seems very likely to happen this summer, although a handful of GM's and scouts say it could happen before next month's trade deadline. One source hinted that the Denver Nuggets' Marcus Camby or even the Sacramento Kings' Brad Miller could be parts of a package involving O'Neal. |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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No way O'Neil gets traded during this season. They made those trades to help him, not to rebuild. You don't take on contracts like that if you are going into rebuilding mode, Bird and Walsh are WAY too smart for that.
If they don't improve, then I could see him being traded over the summer. However, for now, the trade deadline is about a month away and would be too soon to give up on the changes they just made a couple days ago.
I would love a trade like Vlad, Kwame, Mihm, and Two 1st Rounders for O'Neil though...but for that matter so would every other team..lol. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Walter Sobchak Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | I would love a trade like Vlad, Kwame, Mihm, and Two 1st Rounders for O'Neil though...but for that matter so would every other team..lol. |
Barring some horribly lopsided trade like this, this thread should probably be over in the General NBA Discussion forum cause I don't see the Lakers looking to add any more centers to the team. _________________ "People don't think it be like it is, but it do." - Oscar Gamble
Just a reminder folks: "a lot" is two words. So is "no one". |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Walter Sobchak wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | I would love a trade like Vlad, Kwame, Mihm, and Two 1st Rounders for O'Neil though...but for that matter so would every other team..lol. |
Barring some horribly lopsided trade like this, this thread should probably be over in the General NBA Discussion forum cause I don't see the Lakers looking to add any more centers to the team. |
I guess its a good thing that O'neil would be a PF in the west. |
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v3n Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | No way O'Neil gets traded during this season. They made those trades to help him, not to rebuild. You don't take on contracts like that if you are going into rebuilding mode, Bird and Walsh are WAY too smart for that.
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I agree. There is no way that the Pacers are going to get rid of their star after taking on those two contracts that will make it impossible to pursue any other stars in the foreseeable future. |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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mckie and a draft pick for him. DO IT MITCH! |
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Dominator Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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There's no way Jermaine allows himself to be traded to Sacramento, and a swap for Camby would actually make the Nuggets worse. |
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LakerJam Franchise Player
Joined: 02 Aug 2002 Posts: 18410 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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That was before the big trade with the Warriors. He's not up for any trade right now - they didn't just take on a bunch of horrible contracts to then trade their franchise player while having no cap room. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Jam.
Walsh and Bird even said that part of the reason Harrington was moved is due to that O'Neal and Harrington didn't complement each other the way they'd like.
Troy Murphy is much like a young Austin Croshere who can board, pass and shoot. This is the type of player Indy wants and Bird went to the Finals with. Diogu is a young big who can play PF.
While it's true that they are killing JO by making him play 5 they've made these moves to help JO IMO. |
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Sage_10 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they'll give up on him. Indy will find a way to turn it around. At least that's what I would try to do. _________________ "You Must Be Willing To Give Up That Which Can Be Lost In Order To Gain That Which Cannot Be Lost." - FORTUNE COOKIE |
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Balki Bartokomous Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Kwame Brown
6-11 C from Glynn Academy (HS)
8.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 27.5 minutes
Chris Mihm
7-0 from Texas
No games yet played in 2006/07
Aaron McKie
6-5 SG from Temple
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes
Brian Cook
6-9 PF from Illinois
7.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 16.7 minutes
Incoming
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 C from Eau Claire (HS)
19.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 2.9 apg in 35.8 minutes
David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
2.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.5 minutes
Change in team outlook: +5.2 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and -0.2 apg.
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 C from Eau Claire (HS)
19.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 2.9 apg in 35.8 minutes
David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
2.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.5 minutes
Incoming
Kwame Brown
6-11 C from Glynn Academy (HS)
8.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 27.5 minutes
Chris Mihm
7-0 from Texas
No games yet played in 2006/07
Aaron McKie
6-5 SG from Temple
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes
Brian Cook
6-9 PF from Illinois
7.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 16.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: -5.2 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and +0.2 apg.
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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If Bird and Walsh were stoned .. maybe that deal happens. There is noway we'd even be in talks for O'Neal without Bynum or Odom going out IMO. |
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LakerSanity Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 33474 Location: Long Beach, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
If Bird and Walsh were stoned .. maybe that deal happens. There is noway we'd even be in talks for O'Neal without Bynum or Odom going out IMO. |
Thats why O'Neal is not going to be a Laker, even if he is somehow traded this coming summer. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Klone_dd Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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^^
Maybe that's where Michael Vick was headed -- to speak with Bird and Walsh. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Klone_dd wrote: | ^^
Maybe that's where Michael Vick was headed -- to speak with Bird and Walsh. |
No, it was Minnesota |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Diogu is going to the best player is this deal in a couple years if you ask me...they got a good steal that nobody is high about except GS fans from last year...ask them why he is so well liked by GS fans..he could become a 20-10 player _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Jacko Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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looks like im the first to do it in this thread.
Do it Mitch! |
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SladeRider Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Jacko but I think lakersboy beat you to it |
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golakersgo121 Franchise Player
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 11717 Location: 8 miles from Staples Center
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Right, that's exactly what team does to start rebuilding process: first to trade for overpaid young players with long and big contracts, then to trade away the only asset they have for nothing... :roll:
BTW, Jermaine is a good defender. But do you know that he never ever in his career shot better than 49% for a season and currently is shooting 45.6%? Career 46.4% shooter? Does not sound good to me for a PF/Center...
Geez, and and some people call KG a "jump shooter"... |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^
Troy Murphy - $8.3 Million salary this year, 5 years remaining
Mike Dunleavy Jr. - $7.4 Million salary this year, 5 years remaining
Trading Your Franchise Player After Soiling Yourself With Both Contracts? ....
Priceless
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | ^
If Bird and Walsh were stoned .. maybe that deal happens. |
Too bad we didn't hire JR Rider as a front office assistant, then that might actually be possible. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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golakersgo121 wrote: | Right, that's exactly what team does to start rebuilding process: first to trade for overpaid young players with long and big contracts, then to trade away the only asset they have for nothing... :roll:
BTW, Jermaine is a good defender. But do you know that he never ever in his career shot better than 49% for a season and currently is shooting 45.6%? Career 46.4% shooter? Does not sound good to me for a PF/Center...
Geez, and and some people call KG a "jump shooter"... |
I'd rather have a 20/10 guy who shoots 45% FG than an 8/6 guy who shoots closer to 60%. J.O. also shoots 75% FT's to Kwame's laughable 40%. We can't nit-pick here. |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: |
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This is silly, web-hit generating sewage from hoopsworld. Make a controversial prediction surrounding a favorite superstar, and grow your advertising revenue. It's not like the founder of hoopsworld hasn't pulled that crap before.
Indy just finished a huge trade with GSW, in hopes of appeasing Jermaine O'Neal. Why would they take on longer contracts if a rebuild was on Donnie Walsh's mind? Also think of why the trade took place... it helped in terms of on-court chemistry with J. O'Neal. |
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