Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?
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Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?
Best coach in the league
19%
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Second or third
10%
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Fourth or fifth
23%
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6-10
42%
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11-15
4%
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16-20
0%
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:50 pm    Post subject: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject:

He's shown so far to be an asset.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

CandyCanes wrote:
IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.


Spoelstra in the top 5.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:26 pm    Post subject:

By default coach of best record team is at least top 5
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:27 pm    Post subject:

Top 5 and improving.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:36 pm    Post subject:

Fourth or fifth.
Raptors are a surprise.
They have proven they are more than just Kahwi's coattails.
In fact, kahwi was fortunate to have had them last season.
So, the coach of Raptors should be the best so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:12 am    Post subject:

OPs list is a big diss to Nick Nurse. Wins a chip with Kawhi and still one of the best teams in the East with no real superstar. Also one of the only 2 teams to beat the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:22 am    Post subject:

Can’t say until he shows his management in a playoff series with this group. Loved what he did in that context with Indy. But things have evolved. Going to have a shot this April.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:40 am    Post subject:

The list IMO:
1. Popovich
2. Spoelstra
3. Carslisle
4. Snyder

And probably after them its Vogel. I do not see why D'Antoni is better than Vogel.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:53 am    Post subject:

The list IMO:
1. Popovich
2. Spoelstra
3. Carslisle
4. Snyder

And probably after them its Vogel. I do not see why D'Antoni is better than Vogel.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:17 am    Post subject:

who's got the best record despite having greatest pressure market, and have the best relation with players who bought in to what he wants to do?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:24 am    Post subject:

Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:27 am    Post subject:

Gellollo wrote:
Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:50 am    Post subject:

blackmamba08 wrote:
Gellollo wrote:
Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.


My dog can as well
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:15 am    Post subject:

Pop and Kerr based on past success/get a pass this season?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:28 am    Post subject:

top 10 for sure but I'm not really willing to go too far beyond that

coaches I would have ahead of him, in no particular order

- Nurse (won chip last year, still really good this year despite losing kawhi, beat us)

- Popovich (self-explanatory)

- Spoelstra (has won multiple chips, team is overachieving so far once again)

- Carlisle (very close to Vogel IMO but he has won a chip)

- Budenholzer (yeah, they have Giannis, but the rest of their roster is kind of bad considering how well they are doing so far this year)

- Stevens (very close to Vogel as well but he has consistently overachieved IMO)

- Snyder (same as Stevens, basically)

so I guess I'd have him in the 8ish range
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:47 am    Post subject:

Top 10 is about right. Fits us well. Guess he's the sort of guy you want when you have good players and a good team. He can turn it into a tough minded defensive ball club that plays together. Same thing as Indiana.

No elite standing unless he proves he can win playoff series that lead to a championship.

People had rated him as an assistant or lower bottom 5 level in the summer. I think that is completely false. He's a damn smart guy and it was clear from his press conference, and initial interviews, Luke Walton/Byron Scott/D'Antoni he was not.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject:

So we ignore the job that Walton has done in Sacramento? No all NBA players and their best player out but they have become a team that will compete.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
blackmamba08 wrote:
Gellollo wrote:
Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.


My dog can as well


Are you saying your dog is as good as Walton?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:52 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
So we ignore the job that Walton has done in Sacramento? No all NBA players and their best player out but they have become a team that will compete.


I like Walton more than a lot of people here. His buddy Mermuys is at it again, though, crafting one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:28 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
So we ignore the job that Walton has done in Sacramento? No all NBA players and their best player out but they have become a team that will compete.

This thread is about top 10 coaches in the league, in which a solid case is being made for Vogel being among them. Are you actually trying to make a case that Luke Walton belongs in this discussion? Luke Walton of the failed Lakers stint, and the 7-10 start in Sacramento? I don't think Walton is necessarily a bad coach per se, but to try and insert him into this discussion is absurd (although not surprising considering your usual agenda).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:37 pm    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
drae wrote:
blackmamba08 wrote:
Gellollo wrote:
Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.


My dog can as well


Are you saying your dog is as good as Walton?


umm, u talking about Luke (40-0) Walton in GS?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:50 pm    Post subject:

blackmamba08 wrote:
Gellollo wrote:
Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.

I assume you're no Phil Jackson fan, then?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:53 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
blackmamba08 wrote:
Gellollo wrote:
Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.

I assume you're no Phil Jackson fan, then?


hey now, Phil took a pre-Gasol Kobe-Bynum-Odom-Fish team to the #1 seed in the West
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:58 pm    Post subject:

Any current top 5 should include Nurse. What hes done missing Lowry, Ibaka and Leonard is great coaching, not to mention the GM as well.

I put Vogel 6-8 with potential for higher. The team seems to be buying into his culture. As season goes we will get a better idea. So far great with managing an ego like LBJ in the locker.
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