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Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?
Best coach in the league
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:03 pm    Post subject:

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So we ignore the job that Walton has done in Sacramento? No all NBA players and their best player out but they have become a team that will compete.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

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IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.


D'Antoni was abysmal when he was with the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

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IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.


D'Antoni was abysmal when he was with the Lakers.


Replace MDA with Spoelstra on that tier?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

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ducasse wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.


D'Antoni was abysmal when he was with the Lakers.


Replace MDA with Spoelstra on that tier?


Sure. Got to add Nurse in there too somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

ducasse wrote:
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ducasse wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.


D'Antoni was abysmal when he was with the Lakers.


Replace MDA with Spoelstra on that tier?


Sure. Got to add Nurse in there too somewhere.


how bout Monty? Doc?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:53 pm    Post subject:

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Wow, not one peep about Kerr in this thread. Was he just a pretender all this time? LOL


I can coach a team with Durant, Curry, Klay, Green, Iggy and rest of the crew and win a chip.

I assume you're no Phil Jackson fan, then?


hey now, Phil took a pre-Gasol Kobe-Bynum-Odom-Fish team to the #1 seed in the West

True. It was just a Gasol-Kobe-Odom-Fish team

But no, I'm no Phil hater by any means. I believe he's the greatest coach ever. I was just challenging the other guy who discredited Kerr. Speaking of that, it's worth noting that Kerr coached the Warriors to the best record ever and a title before Durant got there. I believe Kerr is one of the best coaches in the league without question.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank among NBA head coaches?

governator wrote:
ducasse wrote:
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ducasse wrote:
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IMO top tier is Popovich, Budenholzer, D'Antoni, Stevens, Snyder, Carslisle, and Vogel. Not sure where I'd rank Vogel among then.


D'Antoni was abysmal when he was with the Lakers.


Replace MDA with Spoelstra on that tier?


Sure. Got to add Nurse in there too somewhere.


how bout Monty? Doc?

Monty for sure. Doc is up there too but he'll never get any love here.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:53 pm    Post subject:

Honestly some Laker fans and media were worrying me with their criticism of him. I always thought Vogel was a great coach, what he did in Indiana with so little was proof in the pudding. I dont even understand how we can judge him in Orlando? This team is actually the perfect fit for him. They are grown men, he can talk to them as such, he seems the type.

Everybody throwing all this praise at Doc and crapping on Vogel I didnt get. Ive been said Doc is overrated. He won once with a stacked team. And he has coached way more talented teams than Vogel has. But now the tables have been turned. I do not think the Clippers or anybody for that matter will beat us in a 7 game series if we have most of our components, especially the big guns.

Just to throw it out there shout out to the rest of the coaching staff. 3rd quarter adjustments have been on point, and they are getting better.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:57 pm    Post subject:

I'd be putting Nurse, Stevens, Carlisle, Spoelstra, Budenholzer, Pop in the top group with Vogel. Kerr very hard to rank, as he's gone from probably the best roster (top level talent-wise) in the league to the worst, given the injuries, but he's in that company too probably. MDA and Snyder fill out the top 10

1: Nurse
2: Spoelstra
3: Popovich
4: Stevens
5: Kerr
6: Budenholzer
7: Vogel
8: Carslile
9: D'Antoni
10: Snyder

Is how I'd rank it right now
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:50 am    Post subject:

I remember Nurse making some boneheaded decisions in the finals last year which cost the Raptors at least one game. I always just assumed Spoelstra was only winning because he had LeBron/Wade/Bosh. Both Walton and Mike Brown showed that they were capable of winning with Kerr’s roster, so not sure how much he really added.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:53 am    Post subject:

24Legend007 wrote:
Honestly some Laker fans and media were worrying me with their criticism of him. I always thought Vogel was a great coach, what he did in Indiana with so little was proof in the pudding. I dont even understand how we can judge him in Orlando? This team is actually the perfect fit for him. They are grown men, he can talk to them as such, he seems the type.

Everybody throwing all this praise at Doc and crapping on Vogel I didnt get. Ive been said Doc is overrated. He won once with a stacked team. And he has coached way more talented teams than Vogel has. But now the tables have been turned. I do not think the Clippers or anybody for that matter will beat us in a 7 game series if we have most of our components, especially the big guns.

Just to throw it out there shout out to the rest of the coaching staff. 3rd quarter adjustments have been on point, and they are getting better.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:06 am    Post subject:

Honestly, I think the game has passed Pop....

Right now, I think Spo is the best coach in the league. The Heat are doing so good with such a crappy roster.

Also, credit to Nurse too. However, Lowry sucks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:35 am    Post subject:

1. Popovich: 5 rings
2. Kerr: 3 rings and 5 consecutive finals appearances
3. Spoelstra: 2 rings and 4 consecutive final appearances
4-6. Nurse, Carlisle, Rivers: 1 ring apiece
7-11. Stevens, Budenholzer, D’Anton, Malone, Vogel

1st tier: Popovich is on another level.
2nd tier: Kerr and Spoelstra have won multiple rings and made 5 and 4 consecutive finals appearances.
3rd tier: Nurse, Carlisle and Rivers are championship coach
4th tier: Vogel is on this group now
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:54 am    Post subject:

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So we ignore the job that Walton has done in Sacramento? No all NBA players and their best player out but they have become a team that will compete.

This thread is about top 10 coaches in the league, in which a solid case is being made for Vogel being among them. Are you actually trying to make a case that Luke Walton belongs in this discussion? Luke Walton of the failed Lakers stint, and the 7-10 start in Sacramento? I don't think Walton is necessarily a bad coach per se, but to try and insert him into this discussion is absurd (although not surprising considering your usual agenda).


Actually it isn’t, it is about NBA head coaches. Walton is an NBA head coach. Maybe try reading the thread?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:01 am    Post subject:

Sina wrote:
1. Popovich: 5 rings
2. Kerr: 3 rings and 5 consecutive finals appearances
3. Spoelstra: 2 rings and 4 consecutive final appearances
4-6. Nurse, Carlisle, Rivers: 1 ring apiece
7-11. Stevens, Budenholzer, D’Anton, Malone, Vogel

1st tier: Popovich is on another level.
2nd tier: Kerr and Spoelstra have won multiple rings and made 5 and 4 consecutive finals appearances.
3rd tier: Nurse, Carlisle and Rivers are championship coach
4th tier: Vogel is on this group now


Do you think Pop might be past his prime and has lost his touch, though?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
Sina wrote:
1. Popovich: 5 rings
2. Kerr: 3 rings and 5 consecutive finals appearances
3. Spoelstra: 2 rings and 4 consecutive final appearances
4-6. Nurse, Carlisle, Rivers: 1 ring apiece
7-11. Stevens, Budenholzer, D’Anton, Malone, Vogel

1st tier: Popovich is on another level.
2nd tier: Kerr and Spoelstra have won multiple rings and made 5 and 4 consecutive finals appearances.
3rd tier: Nurse, Carlisle and Rivers are championship coach
4th tier: Vogel is on this group now


Do you think Pop might be past his prime and has lost his touch, though?


Pop is still the best in the NBA

Vogel is top 10
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:14 am    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
Sina wrote:
1. Popovich: 5 rings
2. Kerr: 3 rings and 5 consecutive finals appearances
3. Spoelstra: 2 rings and 4 consecutive final appearances
4-6. Nurse, Carlisle, Rivers: 1 ring apiece
7-11. Stevens, Budenholzer, D’Anton, Malone, Vogel

1st tier: Popovich is on another level.
2nd tier: Kerr and Spoelstra have won multiple rings and made 5 and 4 consecutive finals appearances.
3rd tier: Nurse, Carlisle and Rivers are championship coach
4th tier: Vogel is on this group now


Do you think Pop might be past his prime and has lost his touch, though?


No
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