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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject:

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Have there been 22 year old reclamation projects in the past? I would think they would usually have to be older and near rock bottom before they repent.


In a year like this, when it's so championship or bust and our chemistry is off the charts, you don't make a move for someone like JJ.

Pesci just wants to make a trade for the sake of making one. Memphis, a lottery team who can use all the help they can get is not calling him up for a reason.

What are the difference between THT's numbers and JJ's numbers anyway?


Good point. No time to baby sit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject:

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Have there been 22 year old reclamation projects in the past? I would think they would usually have to be older and near rock bottom before they repent.


In a year like this, when it's so championship or bust and our chemistry is off the charts, you don't make a move for someone like JJ.

Pesci just wants to make a trade for the sake of making one. Memphis, a lottery team who can use all the help they can get is not calling him up for a reason.

What are the difference between THT's numbers and JJ's numbers anyway?


THT has bad %s in the Gleague, 32%FG and 24%3pt..12ppg and his defense is an iffy project. Jackson his last 17 NBA games was on a very good streak numbers and % wise, 15ppg, 40%3pt on 4 attempts, 3assists, 1 steal 1 block. Idk if I would give up THT for him, but he has more potential now and future
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject:

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Having multiple vets make all the difference.

Again, the infrastructure is in place to support a guy like Jackson.

The Patriots have been doing it for years (Moss, Dillon, Brown, Bennet). It's one of the advantages of having a veteran squad -- you can take flyers on talented guys who have had problems.


Yeah but those guys are proven impact players. Hard to disrupt the locker room camarederie for a potential cancer. Even if it work out for us, I just don’t think he can make much of a difference this year for whatever trouble he can bring. Though Jackson can fill up one of our holes, I rather wait for a veteran in a buyout market.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:47 pm    Post subject:

Saw on Reddit that First Take is saying the Knicks want Kidd to lure Giannis.

(bleep) off Knicks, be original and think of your own ideas

I can already see the Dolan plan: Kidd, Masai and Giannis.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:53 pm    Post subject:

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Saw on Reddit that First Take is saying the Knicks want Kidd to lure Giannis.

(bleep) off Knicks, be original and think of your own ideas

I can already see the Dolan plan: Kidd, Masai and Giannis.


Stealing other team's devious plans. What a disgraceful organization
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:53 pm    Post subject:

Wish Klutch had an up and coming or FA-approaching client to dangle in front of the Knicks to convince them to buyout Morris.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:55 pm    Post subject:

The Knicks are a running joke.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:56 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
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Saw on Reddit that First Take is saying the Knicks want Kidd to lure Giannis.

(bleep) off Knicks, be original and think of your own ideas

I can already see the Dolan plan: Kidd, Masai and Giannis.


Stealing other team's devious plans. What a disgraceful organization


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject:

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Wish Klutch had an up and coming or FA-approaching client to dangle in front of the Knicks to convince them to buyout Morris.


Man, I hope Morris wants out...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject:

I agree that if Jackson is let go (I'm not trading for him), we do have the infrastructure to take a risk (and can cut him if he acts up). He's not very good on offense, but he's that rangy wing defender we need off the bench against bigger wing players.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:26 pm    Post subject:

Jackson also has really good passing chops. His comp out of college was Iggy..He passes in the P/R and transition well...although he can be a bit of a flashy/reckless passer at times. He might be our 3rd best playmaker behind Bron and Rondo..He's right in the same mold as Winslow who moved to PG. his assist % last year was 14, which is 2% above Caruso this year. That's his comp to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:29 pm    Post subject:

It's like Memphis is hoarding everything that the Lakers need. They've surrendered 2 key pieces in Dwight/AB. It's like an organ farm for the Lakers. Need a new kidney? We gotchu...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:37 pm    Post subject:

JJ is a UFA next year since he was non-tendered right? Probably more likely they go after him then if at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:42 pm    Post subject:

An 11th man doesn't ruin chemistry unless you trade a valuable piece for him.

Someone convince me Cook and Daniels are indispensable for team chemistry.

No 22 year old "punk" has that type of gravity to ruin what this team has going. It's silly business/sky is falling/can't see the vision rhetoric.

I agree that a move like this should only be made at the deadline though. It'd be foolish to wait for buyouts though.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:51 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
An 11th man doesn't ruin chemistry unless you trade a valuable piece for him.

Someone convince me Cook and Daniels are indispensable for team chemistry.

No 22 year old "punk" has that type of gravity to ruin what this team has going. It's silly business/sky is falling/can't see the vision rhetoric.

I agree that a move like this should only be made at the deadline though. It'd be foolish to wait for buyouts though.


Obviously Daniels/Cook for JJ looks nice from our side, but what does Memphis need either of them for? They're in development mode and they're not gonna give them minutes over Jones, Melton, Allen or even Guduric.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
An 11th man doesn't ruin chemistry unless you trade a valuable piece for him.

Someone convince me Cook and Daniels are indispensable for team chemistry.

No 22 year old "punk" has that type of gravity to ruin what this team has going. It's silly business/sky is falling/can't see the vision rhetoric.

I agree that a move like this should only be made at the deadline though. It'd be foolish to wait for buyouts though.


I don't see the appeal of Daniels/Cook to them.

But I'd rather use those pieces on a known quantity (and if you aggregate them with Kuz could get you close to 11.5m in returning salary).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:05 pm    Post subject:

You got me. I was working under the assumption that Memphis couldn't wait to get rid of him, like he was a grade A punk that they wanted banished from their books and roster.

Cook and Daniels does nothing for them other than ridding themselves of a "problem" player.

If they want something of value for Jackson, no thanks. I wouldn't even let them have Horton-Tucker.

Cook and Daniels save them a little money. Daniels can spread the floor for Morant. That's it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:17 pm    Post subject:

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I wouldn't even let them have Horton-Tucker.


Nobody touches Horton-Tucker imo. A bigger wingspan than Lonzo and LBJ which will be good on the defensive end, and killer handles paired with a good passing game on the offensive end. Seriously loving this guy's potential
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:19 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
An 11th man doesn't ruin chemistry unless you trade a valuable piece for him.

Someone convince me Cook and Daniels are indispensable for team chemistry.

No 22 year old "punk" has that type of gravity to ruin what this team has going. It's silly business/sky is falling/can't see the vision rhetoric.

I agree that a move like this should only be made at the deadline though. It'd be foolish to wait for buyouts though.


Seeing as AD and LeBron hand picked the players on the roster, and they are 2 of the best shooters we have (Cook having championship experience), I don't see a world where trading them for a kid who's running from police at a music festival, missing team meetings, and is now playing average in the g-league is going to be bolster chemistry.

Perhaps what's lost on you is what chemistry means and looks like. For a player who will without a doubt help the roster, they'll gladly see them traded or waived.. but for a guy who can even make the Grizz roster? Nah.

If a move is to be made, I'd rather shoot for known guy and not some hope that he can do what he wasn't able to do when he was on trash rosters that past 2/3 years. All for signing him this summer for the vet min and giving him summer/training camp to impress us.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:31 pm    Post subject:

With Iggy likely being traded with the news today, let’s hope Jae Crowder becomes our target, I have always been fond of his game.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:33 pm    Post subject:

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/e8uhmk/oconnor_as_much_as_the_lakers_would_love_for/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/e8uhmk/oconnor_as_much_as_the_lakers_would_love_for/


So the general consensus is … Rockets or Mavs.

Rockets do seem pretty desperate right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:39 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/e8uhmk/oconnor_as_much_as_the_lakers_would_love_for/


So the general consensus is … Rockets or Mavs.

Rockets do seem pretty desperate right now.


Just go to the Kings, Iggy and play for Luke.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:40 pm    Post subject:

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Inspector Gadget wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/e8uhmk/oconnor_as_much_as_the_lakers_would_love_for/


So the general consensus is … Rockets or Mavs.

Rockets do seem pretty desperate right now.


Just go to the Kings, Iggy and play for Luke.


*Iggy develops a mysterious medical condition and promptly retires*
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/e8uhmk/oconnor_as_much_as_the_lakers_would_love_for/


So the general consensus is … Rockets or Mavs.

Rockets do seem pretty desperate right now.


If Igoudala goes to the Rockets, we should try getting Thabo Selfolosha
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