Luke or Farmar?

venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject:

The fact that he is a Laker.
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TACH · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject:

What I find funny is that for the past two years, everybody has been screaming for a PG to replace Smush... now that JKidd, a HOF lock that has put up the following number, is available posters are saying 'NO':

* ranks 3rd in triple-doubles (83, as of January 22, 2007)
* ranks 7th in assists (8,253, as of 2006)
* ranks 5th in assist-per-game average (9.2)
* ranks 13th in steals (1,835, as of 2006)
* ranks 11th in steal-per-game average (2.04)

* One of only three players in NBA history to record at least 13,000 points, 5,500 rebounds, and 8,000 assists in his playing career (the others are Oscar Robertson and Earvin "Magic" Johnson).
* One of only two players in NBA history to average a triple-double in a playoff series of six or more games (17.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 10.2 apg) in the 2002 Eastern Conference Finals vs. the Boston Celtics (the other is Magic Johnson).
* One of only four players in NBA history to lead the league in assist-per-game average for 3 consecutive seasons (the others are Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson, and John Stockton).

Seriously.... this place is really Bi-Polar sometimes...

venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

Some here just hate giving up players they like. Even if it is in the best interest of the team. Hell, I would trade any player on the Lakers if it would make the team better.
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Omar Little · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

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ArrOhBee · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

it has to be farmar.

if we are going to trade for Kidd that means we are trying to win now therefore makes no sense to trade away Luke who has playoff experience.

Luke > Farmar
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Aloha · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject:

... Wouldnt you need to get more $$$$, Farmer is cheap.. so trading him wouldnt bring down the 15k- even with Kwame, Luke on paper is also low

If it was done right now it would have to be
Kwame, Luke, Farmer +____???
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TACH · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

Omar Little · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject:

TACH · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

LakerSanity · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject:

A trade of Vlad, Kwame, Mihm, and Mckie for Kidd and Moore would work. You could sub in either Luke or Farmar for Mckie and it would still work. You could also add in Farmar or Luke into that same trade OR draft picks, and it would still work. From our perspective, getting back Moore is essential or else we are way too thin in our frontcourt (we might still be, because suddenly we're forced to use Bynum the whole year, who, because he didn't play much last year, could hit the "rookie" wall this year).

There are no other combinations unless you start throwing in too many players, which you can't because both teams have limited roster spaces and don't want to just randomly put players on waivers. We could also make something work using LO, but of course no way we do that (it would negate the point of the trade in the first place). Vlad needs to be involved because he makes so much money to make the trades work under the cap.

Again though, it appears the above is not enough for New Jersey regardless of the hypo's. New Jersey will likely stand still, hope they win the Atlantic, and then make changes this summer.
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Omar Little · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject:

TACH · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject:

Omar Little · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

LuxuryBrown · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject:

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You forgot the part about age and work ethic. And yeah, when you try to project someone, that's what you go by, what else?

LuxuryBrown · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Omar Little · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject:

Wino · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject:

Yeah, how about NEITHER!!

Look Kidd is great and all but he is 34 and getting over 20 Mil a year.

There is NO guarantee that he will step right into the tri and help us over the top. I'm sure he would add some value and skill sets that we don't have and we would be better.

However, at 20 mil he HAS TO TAKE US TO THE PROMISED LAND and I don't really have any faith that he can do that.

On top of that, we would be giving up either a big piece of the team if we trade Luke for him. It would take time for the team chemistry to adjust and for Kidd to pick up the tri. I think it sets us back a year before we see the real benefits of Kidd.

If you trade Farmer, it is a quick fix that gives away our future. I think Farmer will be our starting PG in the near future, if we keep him.

Kidd will be done as a top notch PG within 3 years. It gives us a 2 year window to work with him and then we are back to square one.

If he was 4 years younger I would love it. Farmer is going to be a good player, the guy has heart and too much will power to fail.
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bluestorm1990 · Star Player Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 5827

Do we really want the lakers to deal with all that drama , whats stoping kidds ex-wife from moving to California and stalking all the players and harrasing them.

Wino · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject:

LuxuryBrown · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: