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AllorNothing
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| audioaxes wrote: | | his unrelenting faith in Rondo almost cost us this game and more likely than not will end up biting us more than a few times in the future. Ridiculous that Caruso who can be argued as our best guard period got 11 minutes while Rondo comes back rusty from injury yet gets 25 undeserved minutes while shooting 0-5 |
Man just realized Caruso only played 10 minutes too. Had a better plus/minus than ROndo. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | | his unrelenting faith in Rondo almost cost us this game and more likely than not will end up biting us more than a few times in the future. Ridiculous that Caruso who can be argued as our best guard period got 11 minutes while Rondo comes back rusty from injury yet gets 25 undeserved minutes while shooting 0-5 |
Rondo -10 and it was obvious. |
Glaringly so.
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| No idea why Rondo got so much time over AC today. Vogel has been great at recognizing AC’s impact and giving him significant fourth quarter minutes, so it was disappointing to see him run with Rondo, who was horrible today, for most of the fourth. |
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Dr. Laker
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Vogel is showing why he knows more than LG
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lakerican
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| Yeah, maybe the 7 first half TO by LeBron has something to do with it. |
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wolfpaclaker
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | No idea why Rondo got so much time over AC today. Vogel has been great at recognizing AC’s impact and giving him significant fourth quarter minutes, so it was disappointing to see him run with Rondo, who was horrible today, for most of the fourth. |
Getting him rhythm. There are players you have a quick trigger with, and there are players you have to trust. Danny Green for example. you trust. Rondo, IMO, you trust. Dwight, you trust. These guys are supremely talented role players on this team. Avery Bradley, another guy. Caruso has earned trust as well.
Quick hooks should be reserved for Dudley. Daniels, Cook etc.
I also found that McGee got robbed some of minutes in this one. We should have kept AD at the 4 the entire game, in this one. We were playing better with him there and using size than when we brought Dudley in there with him. We could have brought Dwight in there, or McGee back in for Dwight. AD was shooting his 3s with comfort and rhythm. Instead of a lower impact AD/Dudley 5-4 unit, could have gone with Dwight/AD or McGee/AD.
Just nitpicking though. |
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DancingBarry
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | Watch the Lakers’ coaches and players communicating here. Vogel up, giving instructions. Rondo watching Vogel, telling Dudley he’s up covering the pass, Phil Handy triggers the Avery Bradley double at the exact right time, Dudley does his job and contests
https://twitter.com/Trevor_Lane/status/1205671691038314496 |
Worth a bump. |
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la4win
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| audioaxes wrote: | | his unrelenting faith in Rondo almost cost us this game and more likely than not will end up biting us more than a few times in the future. Ridiculous that Caruso who can be argued as our best guard period got 11 minutes while Rondo comes back rusty from injury yet gets 25 undeserved minutes while shooting 0-5 |
Dude just came back from injury. Frank knows how crucial his play making is to the team to relieve Lebron for few minutes in the game. Rondo was just missing his shots last game. Previous his injury, he was hot with his shots. Give him some time. |
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LakerDynasty6.0
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The next step in Coach Vogel's growth will come when he benches Lebron's sorry a$$ for the last possession of the game when the Lakers are leading by 3.
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| Quote: | | "We didn't play a great game tonight," Vogel said after his team coughed up a season-high 22 turnovers and shot just 5-for-31 on 3-pointers. "If we play that in the next two games, the way we did tonight, we'll leave with a loss. It doesn't matter whether we win or lose, we want to have a growth mindset." |
He sees the big picture  |
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| Best 4th Q defense in the league |
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| governator wrote: | | Best 4th Q defense in the league |
No other team has Dwight, AD, Lebron, Caruso, Green, Bradley to throw at teams. 6 guys there that defend so well when it is lockdown mode. In Dwight and AD we may have two of the best defensive bigs of this era, and Caruso-Green-Bradley move their feet and know how to defend. Lebron is probably the worst defender of that group and that is crazy because when he is engaged he is a quality defender. |
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AD23
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| Great job by Frank Vogel today speaking on behalf of the players to the media |
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justsomelakerfan
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Glad to have a pro like this with the Lakers. What a tough thing to do
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ElginBaylor
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He's risen to the challenge of being the leader of this team. When he talks about the team becoming a family quickly, a lot of that can be attributed to him.
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ElginBaylor
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He's risen to the challenge of being the leader of this team. When he talks about the team becoming a family quickly, a lot of that can be attributed to him.
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JamezAmp
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm glad Frank Vogel is our coach. |
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RCS926
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| Yup. He's a calming influence. Great to have him be the spokesperson for this time at this moment. |
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Judah
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I trust him so much. He's an outstanding coach and a true leader.
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mad55557777
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Daily reminder Vogel-
Rondo and Dwight can’t be on the court at the same time with lebron
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chrisca91
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| stop playing rondo |
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Props to Vogel for getting everyone in the game early for some run. Big picture, you need to get guys moviing in the right direction mentally.
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| Kcp needs to start over DG |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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The guy is in so far over his head
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| socalsp3 wrote: | | Kcp needs to start over DG |
Sadly, DG is looking like the worst signing of the summer right now. Let's see if he can redeem himself when it really counts in the postseason.
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