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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Injuries from the Other Side - LeMarcus Aldridge Out for Remainder 19/20 Season
Per Spurs
The Spurs today announced that LaMarcus Aldridge had a surgical procedure performed on his right shoulder, which will cause him to miss the remainder of the 2019-20 NBA season.
MORE: on.nba.com/30oBMGu
https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1270068373498585092?s=21
An Addendum Per Tim MacMahon
The procedure was performed April 24, per the Spurs, so they’ve known for weeks that they wouldn’t have LaMarcus Aldridge when the season resumed.
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1270069068494757893?s=21 |
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Makes sense. If you're the Spurs you're better off just not making the playoffs and getting a lottery pick. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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TDRock wrote: | Possible Compressed Season Next Year
Per Tim Bontemps
Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk said on a conference call with reporters this morning that the NBA has indicated to the league's GMs that next year's schedule could be condensed in order to try to keep the league as close to its usual timeline as possible.
https://twitter.com/timbontemps/status/1270363790450835456?s=21
Schlenk said that could mean more back-to-backs and sets of four games in five nights for teams next season -- things the NBA has actively tried to move away from in recent years.
https://twitter.com/timbontemps/status/1270364359617847296?s=21 |
That was the fear, greed would screw up two seasons _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers 2020 Playoff Roster (17)
Bradley - Rondo - Caruso - Cook
Green - KCP - Waiters - THT
Lebron - Kuzma - Jr Smith
Davis - Morris - Dudley
McGee - Howard - Cousins
WOW. Who's getting the playing time? |
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Gonna be so weird with no fans
Even golf has cheers every now and then |
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defense wrote: | Gonna be so weird with no fans
Even golf has cheers every now and then |
It will be like watching a sitcom without a laugh track. It will seem odd for a minute, but everyone will adjust to it very quickly. |
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Quote: | “Sources said several players have been reluctant to express their views in fear of opposing the superstars who are adamant about playing if proper safety measures are in place.” |
https://twitter.com/bansky/status/1271459846534180864?s=21
This feels like anyone outside of the top 4-6 contenders just don’t want to play and deal with the health restrictions of the bubble.
We could see some short series early on. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:56 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | Quote: | “Sources said several players have been reluctant to express their views in fear of opposing the superstars who are adamant about playing if proper safety measures are in place.” |
https://twitter.com/bansky/status/1271459846534180864?s=21
This feels like anyone outside of the top 4-6 contenders just don’t want to play and deal with the health restrictions of the bubble.
We could see some short series early on. |
The guys on the 8 eliminated teams have it made. The other 22 teams take the risk and live in a bubble. They get the massive pay increase without any risk when the TV contracts hit their 66 game requirement. |
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More Info on Restart Schedule
Per NBA.com
The NBA gave teams a more definitive timetable for the restart to the pandemic-interrupted season Friday, including required coronavirus testing that is set to begin this month and mandatory individual workouts in early July before training camps.
The league is still working on completing the health and safety protocols that will essentially become the rulebook for the restart at the Disney campus near Orlando, Florida — and told teams that talks with the National Basketball Players Association on those issues are continuing.
Meanwhile, a person with direct knowledge of the talks said that Disney workers who will be on the campus during the NBA restart will have to follow a long list of protocols — including constant mask or other appropriate personal protective equipment usage when in the vicinity of any NBA participants or others there for the restart, strict social distancing guidelines and a submission to daily temperature checks and symptom self-assessments.
There are other requirements that will also apply to those working in housekeeping and food service, said the person, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because those details have not been revealed publicly. The NBPA has said player health and safety will be a top priority, and there are still many concerns about how things will work once teams arrive at Disney.
But with negotiations on many levels apparently far enough along to determine a schedule of sorts, the league gave teams the go-ahead to immediately start allowing two assistant coaches to deal with voluntary player workouts. The rule had been one coach with one player since teams were given the green light to re-open facilities for the voluntary workouts last month.
NBA head coaches can be one of those two coaches involved in the voluntary sessions starting June 23, though social distancing and other rules the league applied in response to the pandemic would still apply.
June 23 is significant in another way as well. That would be the first day players on the 22 teams that will be going to the Disney campus would be required to undergo coronavirus testing conducted by those teams.
The league also said it is still working on plans for the eight teams — Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Golden State, Minnesota and New York — that will not be part of the restart at Disney. Those teams can keep their facilities open for now for voluntary workouts until told otherwise.
The rest of the league’s timetable, as of now and with the caveat that it is still considered tentative until the health protocols are done and agreements with Disney are signed, includes:
July 1 through July 7, 8 or 9 — Required individual workouts for players on the 22 participating teams, with the end date coinciding with which day that team would arrive at the Disney campus.
July 7, 8 and 9 — Arrivals at the Disney campus in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.
July 9-29 — Team training camps at Disney, which would follow initial health and safety screenings upon arrival.
July 21 or 22 — Start date for three intersquad scrimmages for each team. The scrimmages will be scheduled by the NBA and will have NBA referees.
July 30-August 14 — Seeding games at Disney. Games will resume. The NBA is still working on completing the schedule for those eight games per team, and the matchups will be based on regular-season games that remained when the league suspended play on March 11.
Aug. 15-16 — The two-game play-in series to determine the No. 8 seed in each conference, if necessary. The series would be necessary if the team in ninth place in either conference when the seeding games end is within four games of the No. 8 team. A best-of-two series would be played, with the ninth-place team needing to go 2-0 in those games to earn a playoff berth. Otherwise, the No. 8 team would take that seed and move into the conference quarterfinals.
Aug. 17 — Playoffs begin. This date would move up to Aug. 15 or 16 if the play-in series are unnecessary. The playoffs are all scheduled as traditional best-of-seven series.
Aug. 30 — A limited number of family members and guests of remaining teams will be permitted to arrive at Disney for the first time. They would stay on the Disney property. They will not be permitted until this point in the schedule.
Aug. 31-Sept. 13 — Conference semifinals.
Sept. 15-28 — Conference finals.
Sept. 30-Oct. 13 — NBA Finals. The league originally planned an Oct. 12 end date, though that has now been adjusted.
https://www.nba.com/article/2020/06/12/nba-new-details-restart-schedule
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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LakersRGolden wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | Quote: | “Sources said several players have been reluctant to express their views in fear of opposing the superstars who are adamant about playing if proper safety measures are in place.” |
https://twitter.com/bansky/status/1271459846534180864?s=21
This feels like anyone outside of the top 4-6 contenders just don’t want to play and deal with the health restrictions of the bubble.
We could see some short series early on. |
The guys on the 8 eliminated teams have it made. The other 22 teams take the risk and live in a bubble. They get the massive pay increase without any risk when the TV contracts hit their 66 game requirement. |
Its an interesting experiment thats for sure. Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | LakersRGolden wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | Quote: | “Sources said several players have been reluctant to express their views in fear of opposing the superstars who are adamant about playing if proper safety measures are in place.” |
https://twitter.com/bansky/status/1271459846534180864?s=21
This feels like anyone outside of the top 4-6 contenders just don’t want to play and deal with the health restrictions of the bubble.
We could see some short series early on. |
The guys on the 8 eliminated teams have it made. The other 22 teams take the risk and live in a bubble. They get the massive pay increase without any risk when the TV contracts hit their 66 game requirement. |
Its an interesting experiment thats for sure. Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
I just ran across a tweet that Dwight and Avery are both un-stoked about resuming play.
EDIT: Oh and I see there's a whole thread about it already carry on, nothing to see here lol |
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lakersken80 wrote: |
Its an interesting experiment thats for sure. Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
LBJ needs to go up to Tacko Fall and punch him in the face day 1. So nobody else will think about messing with him. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:48 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
And the option is living in your own home and make a lot of money _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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There's a report out now that several Cowboys and Texans players have tested positive for Covid. Take the social issues out of it. Consider not only the pandemic, but you're also asking the players, who have had an entire off-season (3 months) with no games played, to play a few games and get into playoff mode. Do you know how sloppy games are the first month of the season, and now you want to go straight to the playoffs. Expect lots of injuries. Then you have no fans and they're saying the elderly coaches can't be on the sidelines. If the above referenced schedule is correct, no way do they make it to September. Too many things can go wrong, and probably will. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:57 am Post subject: |
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kwase wrote: | There's a report out now that several Cowboys and Texans players have tested positive for Covid. Take the social issues out of it. Consider not only the pandemic, but you're also asking the players, who have had an entire off-season (3 months) with no games played, to play a few games and get into playoff mode. Do you know how sloppy games are the first month of the season, and now you want to go straight to the playoffs. Expect lots of injuries. Then you have no fans and they're saying the elderly coaches can't be on the sidelines. If the above referenced schedule is correct, no way do they make it to September. Too many things can go wrong, and probably will. |
Okay let’s say they cancel the 2019-20 season. What changes in October for 2020-21 season? Even if it’s pushed back to Dec/Jan, what changes?
At least one player will test positive for the virus and that will happen whether they finish this season or not and start new season.
There is no way around this. No league is going to sit and wait for 2 years, it’s just not going to happen with the $ involved. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
And the option is living in your own home and make a lot of money |
I don't know what you're talkin about. From all reports, if the players want to play will have to be in the bubble. So they won't have the option of living in their home and playing games. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | TDRock wrote: | Possible Compressed Season Next Year
Per Tim Bontemps
Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk said on a conference call with reporters this morning that the NBA has indicated to the league's GMs that next year's schedule could be condensed in order to try to keep the league as close to its usual timeline as possible.
https://twitter.com/timbontemps/status/1270363790450835456?s=21
Schlenk said that could mean more back-to-backs and sets of four games in five nights for teams next season -- things the NBA has actively tried to move away from in recent years.
https://twitter.com/timbontemps/status/1270364359617847296?s=21 |
That was the fear, greed would screw up two seasons |
This legitimately doesn't make sense to me. Just condense the season by removing 20 to 30 games from the sched-
Oh yeah you're right. Money |
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
And the option is living in your own home and make a lot of money |
I don't know what you're talkin about. From all reports, if the players want to play will have to be in the bubble. So they won't have the option of living in their home and playing games. |
The ones who don’t go to Orlando will be getting paid sitting at home. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
And the option is living in your own home and make a lot of money |
I don't know what you're talkin about. From all reports, if the players want to play will have to be in the bubble. So they won't have the option of living in their home and playing games. |
The ones who don’t go to Orlando will be getting paid sitting at home. |
Nope. Anyone who chooses not to play will lose salary that’s about equivalent for each game they skip, unless they have pre-existing conditions that make them more vulnerable to Covid-19 complications or have injuries that prevent them from playing. |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
And the option is living in your own home and make a lot of money |
Pablo Escobar would've KILLED! to stay at that prison. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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mhan00 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Some players might want to bail on the experiment so they can go back home and not be quarantined in what is essentially basketball prison. |
C'mon, it's not prison.
It's a job. You have to stay in luxury hotels, and not venture out for a couple of months, while you play basketball and make a lot of money.
That's the terms of the job. Basketball players can choose to accept the job, or they can turn the job down.
You don't get the option of turning prison down. |
And the option is living in your own home and make a lot of money |
I don't know what you're talkin about. From all reports, if the players want to play will have to be in the bubble. So they won't have the option of living in their home and playing games. |
The ones who don’t go to Orlando will be getting paid sitting at home. |
Nope. Anyone who chooses not to play will lose salary that’s about equivalent for each game they skip, unless they have pre-existing conditions that make them more vulnerable to Covid-19 complications or have injuries that prevent them from playing. |
You are right and Ventura is wrong. And that's fair. Guys should be able sit out if they like, but there's no reason for them to get a share of the money from those games. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Players Must Give Notice by June 24th (Sorry i was looking at a secondary source. Had to go to original article...)
Players have until 6/24 to let the league know whether or not they intend to play. Per Shams / Athletic (Full article behind pay-wall; https://theathletic.com/1876737/2020/06/16/inside-the-nba-bubble-details-from-nbpa-memo-obtained-by-the-athletic/ )
The National Basketball Players Association on Tuesday sent all of its players a health and safety manual ahead of the resumption of the 2019-20 season on July 30 at Disney World near Orlando.
The NBPA informed its members of the following to start the memo: “It is critical that every player understand that he has the right to choose not to return to play. Any player who exercises this right will not be disciplined. To respect the decision of those who do return to play, it has been agreed that any player who chooses not to participate will have his compensation reduced by 1/92.6 for each game missed up to a cap of 14 games, even if his team plays more than 14 games in Orlando. There will be no other reductions of pay assessed (e.g., fines for missed practices) for a player’s decision not to return to play. Any player that wishes to exercise this right should notify his team of this election by June 24.” |
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