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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:54 pm    Post subject:

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Ornette Coleman >> John Coltrane

Ornedtte Coleman>>Sonny Stitt>>John Coltrane.

Heck yeah
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:55 pm    Post subject:

I will never understand how Steven Seagal even had a career. I feel like I'm watching Tommy Wiseau whenever I watch him act.

He generated $700+ million Worldwide Box Office as a leading actor throughout his career.
I'll never understand it. It's not like his stuff aged badly. It was always bad.

I'm sure if I thought really hard about it, I could think of a worse actor who was successful. But he's a lock for top 3.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:37 pm    Post subject:

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I will never understand how Steven Seagal even had a career. I feel like I'm watching Tommy Wiseau whenever I watch him act.

He generated $700+ million Worldwide Box Office as a leading actor throughout his career.
I'll never understand it. It's not like his stuff aged badly. It was always bad.

I'm sure if I thought really hard about it, I could think of a worse actor who was successful. But he's a lock for top 3.


Oh, not even close. His early stuff is no worse than Arnold’s, for example, or Stallone, or JCVD, who makes him look like John Gielgud, or Johnny Depp in anything after he met Tim Burton, or Jason Shwartzman, or Scott Caan, or Lena Dunham, or Adam Sandler in almost any comedy, or Jaden Smith, or Kirk Cameron, or Chris Farley, or Mark Hammil, or Hayden Christensen, or Chuck Norris, or Bruce Lee, or Rob Shneider, etc....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:57 pm    Post subject:

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Hard To Kill is a great movie, F the haters!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:18 pm    Post subject:

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Hard To Kill is a great movie, F the haters!


I'm just the Cook...!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:21 pm    Post subject:

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ChickenStu wrote:
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Hard To Kill is a great movie, F the haters!


I'm just the Cook...!


Anybody seen Richie?!?!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:11 am    Post subject:

Seagal was an "action star" with the athleticism and flexibility of an out of shape middle aged man. His repertoire of moves were mostly him flailing his arms around. Rarely leveraging his movements with the rest of his body. Film after film there's a ton of quick cuts every second with sound effects to make it seem like he moved more than 15% of his body.

In his "prime" I'd bet you a large amount of money he couldn't do this. https://youtu.be/qzQ5qn6IWmM

He ruins my immersion watching him. I become very aware I am watching someone fake fighting.
And do I have to go into the way he delivers lines? He could be celebrating his baby being born, speaking at a funeral, or threatening someone's life. His voice will have the same inflection. His acting is unintentionally comical.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:37 am    Post subject:

Seagal was a better leading man than

mahershera ali

seth rogen

adam sandler

john krasinski

mark ruffalo

paul rudd

chris evans

my favorite recycled moves are the speedbag face punch, the forearm fracture, and the neckbreak chokehold. His best movie is the one with the twin jamaican druglords
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:01 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Seagal was an "action star" with the athleticism and flexibility of an out of shape middle aged man. His repertoire of moves were mostly him flailing his arms around. Rarely leveraging his movements with the rest of his body. Film after film there's a ton of quick cuts every second with sound effects to make it seem like he moved more than 15% of his body.

In his "prime" I'd bet you a large amount of money he couldn't do this. https://youtu.be/qzQ5qn6IWmM

He ruins my immersion watching him. I become very aware I am watching someone fake fighting.
And do I have to go into the way he delivers lines? He could be celebrating his baby being born, speaking at a funeral, or threatening someone's life. His voice will have the same inflection. His acting is unintentionally comical.


Aikido clowns are the worse.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:15 am    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
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Hard To Kill is a great movie, F the haters!


I'm just the Cook...!


Under Siege is of historical significance as it marked the last time that Gary Busey was actually sane.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:25 am    Post subject:

panamaniac wrote:
unleasHell wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
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Hard To Kill is a great movie, F the haters!


I'm just the Cook...!


Under Siege is of historical significance as it marked the last time that Gary Busey was actually sane.


Long before the internet...that birthday cake scene. Yeah. Y'all know what I'm talking about. The OG Baywatch babe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:35 am    Post subject:

C M B wrote:
Seagal was a better leading man than

mahershera ali

seth rogen

adam sandler

john krasinski

mark ruffalo

paul rudd

chris evans

my favorite recycled moves are the speedbag face punch, the forearm fracture, and the neckbreak chokehold. His best movie is the one with the twin jamaican druglords


That would be Marked for Death.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am    Post subject:

C M B wrote:
Seagal was a better leading man than

mahershera ali

seth rogen

adam sandler

john krasinski

mark ruffalo

paul rudd

chris evans

my favorite recycled moves are the speedbag face punch, the forearm fracture, and the neckbreak chokehold. His best movie is the one with the twin jamaican druglords

I think this take nuked the thread. Wow.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:53 pm    Post subject:

I think Danny Aiello is a better (b-level) actor than Joe Mantegna...but Robert Loggia beats both of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:39 pm    Post subject:

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I think Danny Aiello is a better (b-level) actor than Joe Mantegna...but Robert Loggia beats both of them.
Dennis Farina, Get Shorty
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:49 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
I think Danny Aiello is a better (b-level) actor than Joe Mantegna...but Robert Loggia beats both of them.
Dennis Farina, Get Shorty

My controversial take is that they're all wonderful actors and sexy dudes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:52 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
I think Danny Aiello is a better (b-level) actor than Joe Mantegna...but Robert Loggia beats both of them.
Dennis Farina, Get Shorty


Yes! I absolutely love him in that. And many other roles.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:32 pm    Post subject:

tipping is a stupid custom and should be eliminated
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:11 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
The Olympics take sports that nobody cares about and bundles them into a nationalist package that tricks people into thinking they like speed skating every few years.


trinidad and tobago didn't spend empty its federal reserve to field a basket weaving team just for you to (bleep) on the olympics
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:17 pm    Post subject:

FernieBee wrote:
I think Danny Aiello is a better (b-level) actor than Joe Mantegna...but Robert Loggia beats both of them.


Meant to reply to this, since Italian-American actors are being talked about here. Aiello's relatively small role in Moonstruck was probably odd in that he and Nicolas Cage are playing brothers (they were over 30 years apart in real life age), but he has what I consider to be one of the magical Italian-American moments in the film (there are many that capture the experience so well). During the climactic scene at the breakfast table, Johnny (Aiello) and Ronny (Cage) are arguing about their mother, and Ronny says something like "Johnny, you're 42 years old and she's still running your life." The way Aiello snaps back "and you're a son that doesn't love his mother!" was done so perfectly (both with the tone of his voice and the look on his face), and reminded me of something any number of my male relatives may have said in that moment.

Anyway, Aiello was great.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:46 pm    Post subject:

I believe all lives matter and apparently its controversial.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:02 pm    Post subject:

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I believe all lives matter and apparently its controversial.


I personally don't know anybody who disagrees with that. Now if that is your immediate response to the topic of Black Lives Matter. That's stupid.

It would be like breaking your arm. Going to see a doctor. And when you get in there she examines your leg, your ankle, your toes. And when you ask her what she's doing, she says, "HEY, ALL BONES MATTER!"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:06 pm    Post subject:

xxsicrokerxx wrote:
I believe all lives matter and apparently its controversial.


The statement is true. The sad part is we need to remind / demand that black persons are included in "all" and that society act accordingly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:28 am    Post subject:

As far as pets go, cats are better than dogs. Not every cat is better than every dog. But I think on average cats are better.
For example a bad dog can seriously injure a person or another animal.
A bad cat is ... skittish and antisocial. If I ever adopt an animal from a shelter, I'm going with a cat.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:03 am    Post subject:

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tipping is a stupid custom and should be eliminated


Tipping is a social custom and etiquette. Those who receive them count on them to survive. Pay it forward.
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