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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:49 am    Post subject:

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No one here, and this is 99% liberal in case you hadn't noticed, in their wildest dreams ever thought that there'd be another President (even another Republican one) who would knock either Nixon out of the park in terms of corruption and actual criminality or W out of the park in terms of sheer and willful ignorance and IQ. He also hits Ronnie close to the HR area in terms of Evangelical idolatry towards him. Makes you wonder what kind of monster they could drum up who could be of Trump's Godzilla magnitude. Is there a Mothra out there? You ponder to yourself how so many Murcans prefer these types of individuals over Democrats who at least follow the law and are erudite and who read and who don't obstruct justice, etc etc etc. Not only that, but they are lead to believe with full-faith that it's the DEMZ who are the corrupt criminals. Trump cites Obamagate and is too effin dumb to even explain what it is to normal people.

It was President Harding (another scandal-ridden, lovechild-laden, feckless Repub) who resurrected the word normalcy into the lexicon over the accepted "normality". Original Gangsta Warren G (not the 90s rapper): we hear you re: a return to normalcy. However the bleep you wanna say it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_normalcy


That's only because the Repugnicon's that lurk here are Cowards, IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:57 am    Post subject:

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No one here, and this is 99% liberal in case you hadn't noticed, in their wildest dreams ever thought that there'd be another President (even another Republican one) who would knock either Nixon out of the park in terms of corruption and actual criminality or W out of the park in terms of sheer and willful ignorance and IQ. He also hits Ronnie close to the HR area in terms of Evangelical idolatry towards him. Makes you wonder what kind of monster they could drum up who could be of Trump's Godzilla magnitude. Is there a Mothra out there? You ponder to yourself how so many Murcans prefer these types of individuals over Democrats who at least follow the law and are erudite and who read and who don't obstruct justice, etc etc etc. Not only that, but they are lead to believe with full-faith that it's the DEMZ who are the corrupt criminals. Trump cites Obamagate and is too effin dumb to even explain what it is to normal people.

It was President Harding (another scandal-ridden, lovechild-laden, feckless Repub) who resurrected the word normalcy into the lexicon over the accepted "normality". Original Gangsta Warren G (not the 90s rapper): we hear you re: a return to normalcy. However the bleep you wanna say it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_normalcy


That's only because the Repugnicon's that lurk here are Cowards, IMO.


You are not alone in that opinion. Hell, even they know they are.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:06 am    Post subject:

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That's only because the Repugnicon's that lurk here are Cowards, IMO.


You are not alone in that opinion. Hell, even they know they are.


It's ironic how a fan of a sport (NBA Basketball) and a team (LA Lakers), with such diversity of players and fans, can be so parochial as to knowingly subscribe to Repugnicanism.

But my neighbor is...my co-worker is...my good friend is Black, said the disingenuous Repugnicant.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject:

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eddiejonze wrote:

That's only because the Repugnicon's that lurk here are Cowards, IMO.


You are not alone in that opinion. Hell, even they know they are.


It's ironic how a fan of a sport (NBA Basketball) and a team (LA Lakers), with such diversity of players and fans, can be so parochial as to knowingly subscribe to Repugnicanism.

But my neighbor is...my co-worker is...my good friend is Black, said the disingenuous Repugnicant.

I have two good friends who are conservative: one is a libertarian who ironically grew up in a farming family (government subsidies for me, but not for thee); the other is a devout Catholic who would best be described as a Romney style Republican.

Both have been appalled at Trump and voted third party in 2016 (in states Clinton won). Both say they'll be voting for Biden and down-ballot Dems this time around. I still can't convince them that Trump isn't an anomaly and that Reagan was vile in his own fashion, but it's a start.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:41 am    Post subject:

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Both have been appalled at Trump and voted third party in 2016 (in states Clinton won). Both say they'll be voting for Biden and down-ballot Dems this time around. I still can't convince them that Trump isn't an anomaly and that Reagan was vile in his own fashion, but it's a start.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:46 am    Post subject:

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No one here, and this is 99% liberal in case you hadn't noticed, in their wildest dreams ever thought that there'd be another President (even another Republican one) who would knock either Nixon out of the park in terms of corruption and actual criminality or W out of the park in terms of sheer and willful ignorance and IQ. He also hits Ronnie close to the HR area in terms of Evangelical idolatry towards him. Makes you wonder what kind of monster they could drum up who could be of Trump's Godzilla magnitude. Is there a Mothra out there? You ponder to yourself how so many Murcans prefer these types of individuals over Democrats who at least follow the law and are erudite and who read and who don't obstruct justice, etc etc etc. Not only that, but they are lead to believe with full-faith that it's the DEMZ who are the corrupt criminals. Trump cites Obamagate and is too effin dumb to even explain what it is to normal people.

It was President Harding (another scandal-ridden, lovechild-laden, feckless Repub) who resurrected the word normalcy into the lexicon over the accepted "normality". Original Gangsta Warren G (not the 90s rapper): we hear you re: a return to normalcy. However the bleep you wanna say it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_normalcy


That's only because the Repugnicon's that lurk here are Cowards, IMO.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:51 pm    Post subject:

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No one here, and this is 99% liberal in case you hadn't noticed, in their wildest dreams ever thought that there'd be another President (even another Republican one) who would knock either Nixon out of the park in terms of corruption and actual criminality or W out of the park in terms of sheer and willful ignorance and IQ. He also hits Ronnie close to the HR area in terms of Evangelical idolatry towards him. Makes you wonder what kind of monster they could drum up who could be of Trump's Godzilla magnitude. Is there a Mothra out there? You ponder to yourself how so many Murcans prefer these types of individuals over Democrats who at least follow the law and are erudite and who read and who don't obstruct justice, etc etc etc. Not only that, but they are lead to believe with full-faith that it's the DEMZ who are the corrupt criminals. Trump cites Obamagate and is too effin dumb to even explain what it is to normal people.

It was President Harding (another scandal-ridden, lovechild-laden, feckless Repub) who resurrected the word normalcy into the lexicon over the accepted "normality". Original Gangsta Warren G (not the 90s rapper): we hear you re: a return to normalcy. However the bleep you wanna say it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_normalcy


That's only because the Repugnicon's that lurk here are Cowards, IMO.


Whatever they are, they are at an extreme disadvantage. We do, after-all, outnumber them, and collectively jump in with all claws out when they pop in and say something. That, and their (bleep) talking-point, one-dimensional, arguments, without little or no understanding of the complexities of the issues (when they're not misrepresenting them), and what can one expect?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:51 pm    Post subject:

Robert Mueller Speaks: Washington Post - Roger Stone remains a convicted felon, and rightly so

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The work of the special counsel’s office — its report, indictments, guilty pleas and convictions — should speak for itself. But I feel compelled to respond both to broad claims that our investigation was illegitimate and our motives were improper, and to specific claims that Roger Stone was a victim of our office. The Russia investigation was of paramount importance. Stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so.

Russia’s actions were a threat to America’s democracy. It was critical that they be investigated and understood. By late 2016, the FBI had evidence that the Russians had signaled to a Trump campaign adviser that they could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to the Democratic candidate. And the FBI knew that the Russians had done just that: Beginning in July 2016, WikiLeaks released emails stolen by Russian military intelligence officers from the Clinton campaign. Other online personas using false names — fronts for Russian military intelligence — also released Clinton campaign emails.


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Stone became a central figure in our investigation for two key reasons: He communicated in 2016 with individuals known to us to be Russian intelligence officers, and he claimed advance knowledge of WikiLeaks’ release of emails stolen by those Russian intelligence officers.


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We now have a detailed picture of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. The special counsel’s office identified two principal operations directed at our election: hacking and dumping Clinton campaign emails, and an online social media campaign to disparage the Democratic candidate. We also identified numerous links between the Russian government and Trump campaign personnel — Stone among them. We did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government in its activities. The investigation did, however, establish that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome. It also established that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.


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Congress also investigated and sought information from Stone. A jury later determined he lied repeatedly to members of Congress. He lied about the identity of his intermediary to WikiLeaks. He lied about the existence of written communications with his intermediary. He lied by denying he had communicated with the Trump campaign about the timing of WikiLeaks’ releases. He in fact updated senior campaign officials repeatedly about WikiLeaks. And he tampered with a witness, imploring him to stonewall Congress.



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When a subject lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of the government’s efforts to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable. It may ultimately impede those efforts.

We made every decision in Stone’s case, as in all our cases, based solely on the facts and the law and in accordance with the rule of law. The women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity. Claims to the contrary are false.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:41 pm    Post subject:

Washington Post: The once-mocked ‘Never Trump’ movement becomes a sudden campaign force

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Groups such as the Lincoln Project and Republican Voters Against Trump — which is focused on first-person testimonials like Josh’s — emphasize guerrilla tactics and scathing ads as they troll the president. The movement seeks to build a national political operation to oust both the president and his supporters in Congress, with a particular emphasis on convincing white suburban voters who consider themselves true Republicans to break from the president, according to interviews with more than a dozen anti-Trump advisers and allies who are involved in the planning, some of whom requested anonymity to describe private discussions.

Advisers to the Lincoln Project, which they say has about 30 employees and raised $16.8 million this quarter, will soon expand to include ground operations. They are coordinating over 2,500 volunteers in Michigan, and plan to next target Republican Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Joni Ernst (Iowa), Thom Tillis (N.C.), and Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), who they see as vulnerable after his challenger, Jaime Harrison (D), pulled in a staggering $13.9 million since April.


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But most of the project’s efforts so far have been centered squarely on Trump — evidenced by their surgical strike ads airing on Fox News in Washington, which are aimed not at persuading disaffected Republicans but simply at needling the president.


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After the ad ran — helping to inject questions about the president’s fitness into the cable news cycle — Trump went off script for nearly 15 minutes to address his West Point performance at a rally in Tulsa, which was intended to reset Trump’s stalled reelection bid.


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Longwell said she spent most of the three years following Trump’s election trying to understand what happened and conducting focus groups with voters who supported Trump in 2016 but now rate his performance in office as “somewhat bad” or “very bad.” As her group began testing ads, they quickly realized that slick commercials were often less persuasive than raw testimonials from fellow Republicans with similar doubts about the current president.

They worked for several months to recruit 100 first-person testimonials, largely shot on smartphones — but now they have more than 400 videos, many of them unsolicited.


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Weaver also said that “dispatching Trump does not dispatch Trumpism,” and cited Fox News host Tucker Carlson, as well as Republican Sens. Tom Cotton (Ark.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.), as other potential party leaders he hopes to sideline.

“The next battle will be making sure those from his ilk do not get the next Republican nomination,” Weaver said. “Our task won’t be finished when Joe Biden takes the oath of office.”
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:24 pm    Post subject:

Another video gem by The Lincoln Project:

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Trump’s campaign manager is a felon.
His deputy campaign manager is a felon.
His national security advisor is a felon.
His foreign policy advisor is a felon.
His personal lawyer is a felon.
His long time advisor is a felon.

It’s not a campaign, it’s a criminal enterprise.


https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1282104708308635648
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:58 pm    Post subject:

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In an interview with the New York Times, Elaine Duke, a lifelong Republican who was acting secretary of homeland security for four months in 2017, says that President Trump brought up the idea of selling Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.


I'm surprised he didn't offer to trade it to Denmark for Greenland.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:37 pm    Post subject:

I'm pretty sure we've reached 90s level Soviet Union in some respects. The top two films at the box office this weekend are Empire Strikes Back and Black Panther.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:57 am    Post subject:

Openly corrupt, openly lazy about doing work for the American people.

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President Trump arrived at Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, VA at 9:39am, according to pool reports. This is the President's 369th visit to one of his properties and 277th visit to one of his golf clubs during his presidency.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:21 am    Post subject:

CBS News Battleground Tracker poll: Virus outbreak reshapes presidential race in Sun Belt (Florida, Texas, Arizona)

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The coronavirus outbreak is reshaping the presidential race in three key Sun Belt states. Joe Biden is now leading President Trump by six points in Florida, and the two are tied in Arizona and competitive in Texas, where Biden is down by just a point to Mr. Trump. Biden has made gains in part because most say their state's efforts to contain the virus are going badly — and the more concerned voters are about risks from the outbreak, the more likely they are to support Biden.

In all three states, most voters say their state reopened too soon, and those who say this feel their state went too fast under pressure from the Trump administration. Most also say the president is doing a bad job handling the outbreak. He may be paying a price for that, at least in the short term.

This is helping Biden not only to post bigger gains with groups that already trend Democratic — like women and younger voters — but also to cut into Mr. Trump's margins with seniors. Seniors who are very concerned about coronavirus back Biden in large numbers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:40 am    Post subject:

Another sign of the changing times:

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Matt Rogers Studio [ at ] Politidope

NEW via @DallasNews @UTTyler

Texans now hold a more favorable view of Black Lives Matter than the NRA by 8 points.

Among Independents, that number jumps to 23 points!


https://uttyler.edu/politicalscience/files/codebook-dmn-uttyler-poll-july-2020-RV.pdf
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:53 am    Post subject:

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Another sign of the changing times:

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Matt Rogers Studio [ at ] Politidope

NEW via @DallasNews @UTTyler

Texans now hold a more favorable view of Black Lives Matter than the NRA by 8 points.

Among Independents, that number jumps to 23 points!


https://uttyler.edu/politicalscience/files/codebook-dmn-uttyler-poll-july-2020-RV.pdf

The George Floyd affect?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:28 am    Post subject:

Another really good online ad about real patriotism and sacrifice vs fake patriotism of Trump:

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1282352856809562113
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:37 am    Post subject:

Washington Post, Jennifer Rubin: Ten ideas for repairing Trump’s justice system

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However, we will need far more than an electoral shellacking of Republicans to address the damage Trump has done to the Justice Department and the rule of law. Ten simple measures would begin to repair our justice system:


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1. A thorough redo of the special counsel/independent counsel law is necessary. The counsel’s final report should be issued to Congress and/or the courts, depriving a potentially corrupt attorney general or president the opportunity to pre-edit or spin it. Additional legislation should clarify that a special counsel is empowered to make specific findings of illegality. The DOJ guidelines preventing prosecution of the president while still in office should be revisited.

2. Congress must reassert the power of the purse. <snipped>

3. Severe criminal penalties should be exacted for revealing the identity of whistleblowers or threatening and/or punishing federal employees for providing truthful testimony.

4. A new, speedy enforcement mechanism is required for contempt of Congress citations, allowing lawmakers to get a swift and definitive resolution of its conflicts with the executive branch.

5. We need a barrier between the White House and Justice Department to prevent political interference <snipped>.

6. Legislation should specify that solicitation of campaign help from a foreign government is illegal. All contacts between a campaign and representatives of a foreign government must be disclosed (akin to the law governing foreign agents).

7. Beefed-up ethical training and guidelines for Justice attorneys should reaffirm they are obligated to report to the inspector general and/or courts any political interference in cases involving the president, his relatives and associates. <snipped>

8. The order of succession (before confirmation of a replacement) in the event of termination or resignation of the attorney general or a U.S. attorney should be written into law.

9. The president and vice president must be required to release 10 years of tax returns and to place all financial holdings in a blind trust. In addition, Congress must strengthen enforcement of conflicts of interest rules for the executive branch, enact penalties for Hatch Act violations, set out specific procedures for divestment of business holdings by all senior executive branch employees and mandate reporting of foreign emoluments (which can be defined by statute). A right of private action should be available to seek disgorgement of moneys received in violation of the emoluments clause.

10. Congress should enact a proposed law directing DOJ to provide Congress with “all investigative materials related to an offense for which the President pardons an individual if the offense arises from an investigation in which the President, or a relative of the President, is a target, subject, or witness.”
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:18 am    Post subject:

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Washington Post, Jennifer Rubin: Ten ideas for repairing Trump’s justice system

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However, we will need far more than an electoral shellacking of Republicans to address the damage Trump has done to the Justice Department and the rule of law. Ten simple measures would begin to repair our justice system:


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1. A thorough redo of the special counsel/independent counsel law is necessary. The counsel’s final report should be issued to Congress and/or the courts, depriving a potentially corrupt attorney general or president the opportunity to pre-edit or spin it. Additional legislation should clarify that a special counsel is empowered to make specific findings of illegality. The DOJ guidelines preventing prosecution of the president while still in office should be revisited.

2. Congress must reassert the power of the purse. <snipped>

3. Severe criminal penalties should be exacted for revealing the identity of whistleblowers or threatening and/or punishing federal employees for providing truthful testimony.

4. A new, speedy enforcement mechanism is required for contempt of Congress citations, allowing lawmakers to get a swift and definitive resolution of its conflicts with the executive branch.

5. We need a barrier between the White House and Justice Department to prevent political interference <snipped>.

6. Legislation should specify that solicitation of campaign help from a foreign government is illegal. All contacts between a campaign and representatives of a foreign government must be disclosed (akin to the law governing foreign agents).

7. Beefed-up ethical training and guidelines for Justice attorneys should reaffirm they are obligated to report to the inspector general and/or courts any political interference in cases involving the president, his relatives and associates. <snipped>

8. The order of succession (before confirmation of a replacement) in the event of termination or resignation of the attorney general or a U.S. attorney should be written into law.

9. The president and vice president must be required to release 10 years of tax returns and to place all financial holdings in a blind trust. In addition, Congress must strengthen enforcement of conflicts of interest rules for the executive branch, enact penalties for Hatch Act violations, set out specific procedures for divestment of business holdings by all senior executive branch employees and mandate reporting of foreign emoluments (which can be defined by statute). A right of private action should be available to seek disgorgement of moneys received in violation of the emoluments clause.

10. Congress should enact a proposed law directing DOJ to provide Congress with “all investigative materials related to an offense for which the President pardons an individual if the offense arises from an investigation in which the President, or a relative of the President, is a target, subject, or witness.”


Many of these suggestions, while worthy and necessary, would be, at the very least, challenged in our courts.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:24 pm    Post subject:

Woj suspended from ESPN over the Josh Hawley email.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:40 pm    Post subject:

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Woj suspended from ESPN over the Josh Hawley email.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:15 pm    Post subject:

Apparently Trump’s campaign people think Trump reluctantly putting on a mask months into the pandemic is somehow the knockout punch to Joe Biden’s campaign.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/the-big-boy-president-wore-a-big-boy-mask-and-now-the-election-is-over-aides-say/
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Woj suspended from ESPN over the Josh Hawley email.


#FreeWoj

It's a chilling precedent and the conservative "cancel culture" morons - among whom Hawley is prominent - are mum as a sitting US Senator uses social media to intimidate a private entity to discipline one of its employees.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:56 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:14 pm    Post subject:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/07/12/joe-biden-builds-lead-over-donald-trump-in-reliably-red-texas-as-voters-sour-on-handling-of-virus/
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