Also, Clarke's elite offensive efficiency has carried over, but the elite defensive efficiency in college so far hasn't carried over to the pros, and I admit my fault in evaluating Clarke if his defense doesn't improve. I'm curiousz though, if his defensive presence remains scant, is it because of his wingspan?
Anyway, just also thinking of Okoro's wingspan.
I never understood the high praise Clarke received for his defense in college. While his analytics were very good I did not believe it would effectively transition to the NBA.
Besides being explosive vertically I did not see any other special attribute he possessed to be a standout defender at PF/C. Average physically at 6'8", <210 lbs and yes a longer wingspan would surely have minimized some of these shortcomings.
All based on his ability to anticipate, take charges, make correct rotations, and most importantly, verticality at the rim.
Quick feet, great body control in air, as well.
Regardless, he's already historically efficient offensively and is second only to Morant as a rookie in his class so far (obviously Zion will surpass him). If even some of his defensive impact picks up - and this is true for JJJ, as well - I expect he'll have star impact on low usage.
Getting Melton and Clarke for so little was smart, but should've been obvious to every other team that passed on them. _________________ Under New Management
Also, Clarke's elite offensive efficiency has carried over, but the elite defensive efficiency in college so far hasn't carried over to the pros, and I admit my fault in evaluating Clarke if his defense doesn't improve. I'm curiousz though, if his defensive presence remains scant, is it because of his wingspan?
Anyway, just also thinking of Okoro's wingspan.
Just to clarify I see Okoro's height listed as 6'6" and in a video by Mike Schmitz listed his wingspan as 6'10". He did a physical comparison with current NBA players while also analyzing his game.
Also, Clarke's elite offensive efficiency has carried over, but the elite defensive efficiency in college so far hasn't carried over to the pros, and I admit my fault in evaluating Clarke if his defense doesn't improve. I'm curiousz though, if his defensive presence remains scant, is it because of his wingspan?
Anyway, just also thinking of Okoro's wingspan.
Just to clarify I see Okoro's height listed as 6'6" and in a video by Mike Schmitz listed his wingspan as 6'10". He did a physical comparison with current NBA players while also analyzing his game.
Huh. Sucks to not have a proper combine. _________________ Under New Management
I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator? _________________ Under New Management
I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?
Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.
Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.
I believe there is just enough there for him to be a starter. His individual parts are just average to good but combined all together (athleticism, quickness, vertical, body control, shooting and ability to get his own offense) he could fit nicely as a starter. He is one where a longer wingspan would be a big asset.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:18 pm Post subject:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Okoro's growing on me.
I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?
Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.
Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.
I believe there is just enough there for him to be a starter. His individual parts are just average to good but combined all together (athleticism, quickness, vertical, body control, shooting and ability to get his own offense) he could fit nicely as a starter. He is one where a longer wingspan would be a big asset.
Cole has to leap skillwise/athletically to get to starter level. My favorite player is out next draft. He'll easily steal that All Star spot. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
I'm still skeptical Cole Anthony is a starting caliber PG in the NBA. Maybe like Mo Williams playing off a bigger initiator?
Read something how he basically played 70% all last year. But I don't think Cole had Mo's burst.
Definitely another 2 in a 1 body but at least showed some 1 acumen. These scoring guard types are a dime a dozen.
I believe there is just enough there for him to be a starter. His individual parts are just average to good but combined all together (athleticism, quickness, vertical, body control, shooting and ability to get his own offense) he could fit nicely as a starter. He is one where a longer wingspan would be a big asset.
Cole has to leap skillwise/athletically to get to starter level. My favorite player is out next draft. He'll easily steal that All Star spot.
Thanks. Did not realize that. Always thought he looked more explosive in his high school vids and looked really good his first NC game. Had him top 5 but backed off a little recently.
Desmond Bane will never be Klay Thompson, but if you're trying to draft the "next Klay Thompson" in this draft, you should probably take Bane over Nesmith in the lottery. _________________ Under New Management
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:46 am Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Desmond Bane will never be Klay Thompson, but if you're trying to draft the "next Klay Thompson" in this draft, you should probably take Bane over Nesmith in the lottery.
Desmond Bane will never be Klay Thompson, but if you're trying to draft the "next Klay Thompson" in this draft, you should probably take Bane over Nesmith in the lottery.
Danke! Good stuff. I've just started going back through some of their draft profiles and I'm really impressed with the work Zach and Pearlman are doing there.
Still miss Cole, though. Hearing him school Vecenie on Vecenie's draft podcast was always great. _________________ Under New Management
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:58 am Post subject:
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So what is the difference between Leandro Bolmaro and Deni Advija? Their talent look similar.
Could Bolmaro play as a big PG or initiate the offense at SF?
Avidja is more of a natural wing. Not the playmaker like Saric was in Europe, but more aggressive in terms of shooting and attacking. I think their movements are similar.
Bolmaro is like the archetype that Sun Yue was supposed to be. He just plays like a wing version of Rubio without the PG intangibles. Tremendous motor. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
Also, both guys have worrisome shooting indicators, but Avdija's size gives him the chance of bulking up to PF where his jumper can be better "hidden" and his playmaking becomes more of a "bonus."
I think Bolmaro's an even better defensive prospect than Avdija - quicker feet and more fluid hips when defending poa with equal motors and near equal instincts (Avdija plays defense smarter now) - but without a significant improvement from Leandro as a shooter, it'll be much harder to leverage his secondary creator skills from the perimeter except situationally off the bench. _________________ Under New Management
So what is the difference between Leandro Bolmaro and Deni Advija? Their talent look similar.
Could Bolmaro play as a big PG or initiate the offense at SF?
Avidja is more of a natural wing. Not the playmaker like Saric was in Europe, but more aggressive in terms of shooting and attacking. I think their movements are similar.
Bolmaro is like the archetype that Sun Yue was supposed to be. He just plays like a wing version of Rubio without the PG intangibles. Tremendous motor.
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Also, both guys have worrisome shooting indicators, but Avdija's size gives him the chance of bulking up to PF where his jumper can be better "hidden" and his playmaking becomes more of a "bonus."
I think Bolmaro's an even better defensive prospect than Avdija - quicker feet and more fluid hips when defending poa with equal motors and near equal instincts (Avdija plays defense smarter now) - but without a significant improvement from Leandro as a shooter, it'll be much harder to leverage his secondary creator skills from the perimeter except situationally off the bench.
Thanks agree with what you both stated. It appears both did not receive much court time and have sub par stats like most young international prospects.
Kind of leaves me skeptical but I always like prospects who can create for others or themselves and Bolmaro flashes those skills.
With Xavier Tillman withdrawing, my choices as the Lakers draft guru by proxy are given likely available options (in order):
Desmond Bane
Devon Dotson
Grant Riller
Killian Tillie
Throw Mason Jones in there, as well. Really fun player.
Yes on Jones. The offense ran through him this season including initiating the offense as a primary ball handler. Really diverse offensive game.
Maybe too lofty a comparison but I see Brandon Roy in him.
As for Joe I initially focused on him but it was Jones who impressed. Right decision for Joe to go back to school and Mike _at_ LG had mentioned he played injured this past season.
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