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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:52 am Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Oh you guys love him again?
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Don't be so defensive. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:56 am Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | defense wrote: | Oh you guys love him again?
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Don't be so defensive. |
I only do one thing well
DEFEND! |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:01 am Post subject: |
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His shots can come and go but he has been solid defensively. Very streaky so hopefully Vogel can ride him whenโs hot and bench him when heโs not. I think matching him up with Lou will be his main role next round. He does not have the length to cover PG or Kawhi. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 12182 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:25 am Post subject: |
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KCP is shooting 41.2% from 3 on 5.1 attempts per game.
But if you take out both game 1's where KCP was shooting like Stella before she got her groove back, then KCP is shooting a blistering 48.7% from 3. Fairly high volume too (~5 a game).
Not the first time we've seen this from KCP, let's hope he can keep it up for 14 more games . . . (likely far less if he keeps shooting like this). |
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Lakerwayne Sixth Man
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Croost Ya and if nuggets win he probably matches up a lot with Murray next round |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:51 am Post subject: |
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you know....shooting % is not an inherent quality of a player.
furthermore we talk about shooting percentages to the decimal place...we're talking 5 shot attempts a game. if our language is on that number instead of the percentage it might change perspectives a bit.
let's say kcp shoots 5 threes a game...
he makes 1/5, that's 20%
2/5...40%
3/5 = 60%
4/5=80%
5/5 = 100%
to analyze the percentage seems unproductive to me, even ignoring the fact that the % is not an inherent quality of the player NOR does the % scale with shot attempts. So many things like that.
you can't even take in the totals over the course of a season or any stretch because they are totally different games, totally different scenarios...i mean, the opposing team is different every time.
You'll notice when the team is doing badly, everyone is bricking. Look at the rockets. It's all "momentum" which is not a real thing either, but at least it's a word that describes this idea.
What's my complaint here? I suppose I'm saying there is no additional information to glean off of percentages that these analyses that we are doing here seems to provide. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:03 am Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | you know....shooting % is not an inherent quality of a player.
furthermore we talk about shooting percentages to the decimal place...we're talking 5 shot attempts a game. if our language is on that number instead of the percentage it might change perspectives a bit.
let's say kcp shoots 5 threes a game...
he makes 1/5, that's 20%
2/5...40%
3/5 = 60%
4/5=80%
5/5 = 100%
to analyze the percentage seems unproductive to me, even ignoring the fact that the % is not an inherent quality of the player NOR does the % scale with shot attempts. So many things like that.
you can't even take in the totals over the course of a season or any stretch because they are totally different games, totally different scenarios...i mean, the opposing team is different every time.
You'll notice when the team is doing badly, everyone is bricking. Look at the rockets. It's all "momentum" which is not a real thing either, but at least it's a word that describes this idea.
What's my complaint here? I suppose I'm saying there is no additional information to glean off of percentages that these analyses that we are doing here seems to provide. |
Thatโs a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing of note. Why donโt you go find an LBJ thread to ruin so we can actually discuss basketball? |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Cutheon wrote: | SuperboyReformed wrote: | you know....shooting % is not an inherent quality of a player.
furthermore we talk about shooting percentages to the decimal place...we're talking 5 shot attempts a game. if our language is on that number instead of the percentage it might change perspectives a bit.
let's say kcp shoots 5 threes a game...
he makes 1/5, that's 20%
2/5...40%
3/5 = 60%
4/5=80%
5/5 = 100%
to analyze the percentage seems unproductive to me, even ignoring the fact that the % is not an inherent quality of the player NOR does the % scale with shot attempts. So many things like that.
you can't even take in the totals over the course of a season or any stretch because they are totally different games, totally different scenarios...i mean, the opposing team is different every time.
You'll notice when the team is doing badly, everyone is bricking. Look at the rockets. It's all "momentum" which is not a real thing either, but at least it's a word that describes this idea.
What's my complaint here? I suppose I'm saying there is no additional information to glean off of percentages that these analyses that we are doing here seems to provide. |
Thatโs a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing of note. Why donโt you go find an LBJ thread to ruin so we can actually discuss basketball? |
wtf is your problem?? |
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Lakerwayne Sixth Man
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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18 points and some good d been waiting for a game like this keep it up! Letโs go |
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BadGuy Star Player
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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KCP was ballin tonight! |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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BadGuy wrote: | KCP was ballin tonight! |
Big time. Just going by eye test but he looked like the best on ball defender against Murray tonight. _________________ Under New Management |
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BadGuy Star Player
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | KCP was ballin tonight! |
Big time. Just going by eye test but he looked like the best on ball defender against Murray tonight. |
Yea, i thought AC did a good job frustrating Murray at times, but you are probably right. |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Without his three to beat the shot clock late in the game this series is 1-1. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | Without his three to beat the shot clock late in the game this series is 1-1. |
He's been pretty damn good from three all postseason. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketballโฆbut he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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BadGuy Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | Without his three to beat the shot clock late in the game this series is 1-1. |
That was an incredible, Mamba-esque shot! Definitely kept us in the game. |
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poppies Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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BadGuy wrote: | J.C. Smith wrote: | Without his three to beat the shot clock late in the game this series is 1-1. |
That was an incredible, Mamba-esque shot! Definitely kept us in the game. |
It's easy to focus on the clutch AD shot, but yeah, KCP really kept us alive, more than once. |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Great game Tan. That shot you made kept Mamba staying the rest of the game! _________________ โYou have to dance beautifully in the box that you are comfortable dancing in.โ - Kobe Bryant |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Guess who's shooting 44.3% from 3? _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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Great One Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is gonna jinx him _________________ "Nobody hates the good ones. They hate the great ones." - KB |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Great One wrote: | This thread is gonna jinx him |
Good thing Tan doesnโt have a burner account... oh wait... ๐ค _________________ โYou have to dance beautifully in the box that you are comfortable dancing in.โ - Kobe Bryant |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Guess who's shooting 44.3% from 3? |
Markieff Morris. |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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AllorNothing wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Guess who's shooting 44.3% from 3? |
Markieff Morris. |
Jason Kapono? _________________ โYou have to dance beautifully in the box that you are comfortable dancing in.โ - Kobe Bryant |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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AFireInside619 wrote: | AllorNothing wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Guess who's shooting 44.3% from 3? |
Markieff Morris. |
Jason Kapono? |
Kief is 44.1%.
Kapono is at 0%.
I'll just tell you. It's KCP. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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alleyoop Star Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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KCP definitely gonna opt out now lol
At least we have his bird rights, so we can give him a big one year contract over the cap this year before giving him a multi-year deal post 2021 if he performs well _________________ #18 next... |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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alleyoop wrote: | KCP definitely gonna opt out now lol
At least we have his bird rights, so we can give him a big one year contract over the cap this year before giving him a multi-year deal post 2021 if he performs well |
Can you do 1 year contracts with bird rights? _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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