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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:00 pm    Post subject:

Who was the media guy that said there might be a Impact player that might take less money to play for a winner? It’s possible Ibaka is that guy even though the Raptors are a contender in the East, Ibaka can build his legacy as a Laker.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:04 pm    Post subject:

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I don’t mind Derrick Rose, he deserves a ring, the ACL injury ruined his legacy he would have been a spectacular player, either Rose or CP3 and even Schoeder should be options if Rondo leaves in FA, we are gonna have a lot of options to replace our players if they walk in FA, that is the beauty of the off season especially when we just came off of winning the championship.


Not with the off court issue.


Not worth losing an asset. I don’t think he can crack our playoff rotation too. I rather give more minutes to Caruso and THT then lose an asset for someone like Waiters can do for the minimum.

If you think Waiters can do what DRose does I don't know what to tell you. He's 10x more talented as it currently stands

This is coming from someone that doesn't want DRose on the team if LeBron and Rondo are still on it


Even if 10 times more talented , Rose will not have the green light to utilize all his talents over here. We have 5 guards rotating on 96 minutes and that not even including THT. Vogel system utilized both Lebron and AD for the whole game. So what our team need is players that fit both of them which are clearly 3 and D archetype. So the only role available is that annual Rondo injury which pretty much what Waiters did on the bubble averaging 12 ppg.

I rather have Caruso playing more minutes and making him a lead playmaker even with Lebron as they clearly can play that 2 man game. And give more minutes to THT.

Rose was not a good fit with Lebron. That’s at least 32 -36 minutes and he will not be a good fit with Rondo who’s gonna play at least 10-15 minutes because of his AD pick and roll.

The best role for Rose is to become that assassin and because of the makeup of our team, he will have only few opportunities .

Comes playoff, he will he buttshifting in the bench unless Rondo gets injured and he created some sort of chemistry with AD.

That’s too many IFs.

Like I said, I only want Rose IF Rondo leaves. If Rondo leaves, that leaves us with only one true ball-handler. I really Caruso can't play that role in the playoffs, no matter what anyone says, he's without a doubt a two guard

If Rondo leaves and Rose comes, that gives us someone that can give us 20-26 minutes in the regular season, and playoffs, of really solid isolation scoring and distribution. He'd be as good a true substitute for Bron as he's had in his career IMO (bar Rondo)

The problem with Rose is that he can't play off the ball, no matter what. It's why I say, if Rondo stays, I'd much prefer to chase Schroder, as he's much more competent playing off the ball whilst still being able to play as a playmaker if need be. There's no need for Rose to be here if Rondo is still on the roster
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Who was the media guy that said there might be a Impact player that might take less money to play for a winner? It’s possible Ibaka is that guy even though the Raptors are a contender in the East, Ibaka can build his legacy as a Laker.



It is the right of fans to fantacize. Have fun.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:17 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
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Who was the media guy that said there might be a Impact player that might take less money to play for a winner? It’s possible Ibaka is that guy even though the Raptors are a contender in the East, Ibaka can build his legacy as a Laker.



It is the right of fans to fantacize. Have fun.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:21 pm    Post subject:

Did Darius Garland show much last year?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:36 pm    Post subject:

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Rumor: NBA free agents already agreeing to deals


https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/1320820974145732612?s=19
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:44 pm    Post subject:

I don’t blame the FAs for breaking the rules, the timetable between now and the start of the season is really really weird, I’m sure the NBA will let these guys off the hook.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:55 pm    Post subject:

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I don’t blame the FAs for breaking the rules, the timetable between now and the start of the season is really really weird, I’m sure the NBA will let these guys off the hook.



Agents always break the rules and talk with teams before the official negotiation period. Everyone knows that. As long as you don't get caught, it's fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 pm    Post subject:

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Rumor: NBA free agents already agreeing to deals


https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/1320820974145732612?s=19


heard Mitch Kupcake still waiting for nba to release the official FA start date and time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:00 pm    Post subject:

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I don’t blame the FAs for breaking the rules, the timetable between now and the start of the season is really really weird, I’m sure the NBA will let these guys off the hook.



Agents always break the rules and talk with teams before the official negotiation period. Everyone knows that. As long as you don't get caught, it's fine.


This might be agents, it might also be players agreeing to deals because of the short window of the off season.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Can anyone recap what was said in the Lowe pod with Bobby Marks?


Nothing really groundbreaking regarding Laker news to be honest.

Zach Lowe predictions:
AD - opts out, resigns on a 2+1 which will allow him to opt out and sign the 10 year megamax
KCP - opts out, resigns for $12m
AB - opts in
Javale - opts in
Rondo - opts out (opted out already)

Bobby Marks comments on it:
Thinks AD goes for a 1+1.
Thinks KCP will want Danny Green money
Thinks Rondo opts out, wonders if Lakers will want to commit 2 years to him since to use early bird rights, the Lakers have to sign him to 2 years (Zach Lowe responds - "If Lebron says so, then yes")

Talks about the luxury tax implications between $139m vs $132m that we've been talking about here and if that big mid level will be available to the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:07 pm    Post subject:

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I don’t blame the FAs for breaking the rules, the timetable between now and the start of the season is really really weird, I’m sure the NBA will let these guys off the hook.


Each player caught doing so should be banned for life.
And the GM should be fired and never allowed to work on an NBA team again.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:13 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Pokoy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:19 pm    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Can anyone recap what was said in the Lowe pod with Bobby Marks?


Nothing really groundbreaking regarding Laker news to be honest.

Zach Lowe predictions:
AD - opts out, resigns on a 2+1 which will allow him to opt out and sign the 10 year megamax
KCP - opts out, resigns for $12m
AB - opts in
Javale - opts in
Rondo - opts out (opted out already)

Bobby Marks comments on it:
Thinks AD goes for a 1+1.
Thinks KCP will want Danny Green money
Thinks Rondo opts out, wonders if Lakers will want to commit 2 years to him since to use early bird rights, the Lakers have to sign him to 2 years (Zach Lowe responds - "If Lebron says so, then yes")

Talks about the luxury tax implications between $139m vs $132m that we've been talking about here and if that big mid level will be available to the Lakers.


Thanks!
No mention of the unlikely Deng contract removal?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:30 pm    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Can anyone recap what was said in the Lowe pod with Bobby Marks?


Nothing really groundbreaking regarding Laker news to be honest.

Zach Lowe predictions:
AD - opts out, resigns on a 2+1 which will allow him to opt out and sign the 10 year megamax
KCP - opts out, resigns for $12m
AB - opts in
Javale - opts in
Rondo - opts out (opted out already)

Bobby Marks comments on it:
Thinks AD goes for a 1+1.
Thinks KCP will want Danny Green money
Thinks Rondo opts out, wonders if Lakers will want to commit 2 years to him since to use early bird rights, the Lakers have to sign him to 2 years (Zach Lowe responds - "If Lebron says so, then yes")

Talks about the luxury tax implications between $139m vs $132m that we've been talking about here and if that big mid level will be available to the Lakers.


AD would be better served to sign a 2-1. His salary will be tied to the salary cap and it could be back to normal by 2020.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:00 pm    Post subject:

Something tells me Brandon Ingram will go to the Knicks on a max deal.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:01 pm    Post subject:

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Something tells me Brandon Ingram will go to the Knicks on a max deal.


Why would NO not match that?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:09 pm    Post subject:

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Something tells me Brandon Ingram will go to the Knicks on a max deal.


Why would NO not match that?


Because OP doesn't know about restricted free agency
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:14 pm    Post subject:

NOP are matching any Ingram offer lol

Their Zion/Ingram core is going to be real solid if they can surround it with some real complementary pieces in the next few years. Jrue is the right idea, but is probably too old for the timeline. They probably need to trade Holiday and hit 2021 FA hard (not for superstars, but for surrounding players)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:20 pm    Post subject:

People have bought up Lonzo as a possibility but Josh Hart can also be a potential target, I’m sure he would be okay coming back and he would be a solid KCP replacement.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:23 pm    Post subject:

Also more likely to get Hart because Lonzo will be bringing his crazy dad with him back to the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:18 pm    Post subject:

I’d be on board with Ibaka replacing Howard

Could use his spacing. He’s still a big dude and athletic enough

It’d def make the lakers more dynamic offensively whilst still maintaining their defensive punch. He’s also an ok passer
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Avery(opts in, Kyries BFF), Cook(KD's BFF) 2 2nd for Spencer
28, mcgee for Lonzo

would be my plan.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:31 pm    Post subject:

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Avery(opts in, Kyries BFF), Cook(KD's BFF) 2 2nd for Spencer
28, mcgee for Lonzo

would be my plan.

Don't like it

Lonzo and Spencer aren't good fits here. There's no way I'm welcoming the LaVar show back, either
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:33 pm    Post subject:

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NOP are matching any Ingram offer lol

Their Zion/Ingram core is going to be real solid if they can surround it with some real complementary pieces in the next few years. Jrue is the right idea, but is probably too old for the timeline. They probably need to trade Holiday and hit 2021 FA hard (not for superstars, but for surrounding players)


Make that contract as arduous and painful for Gayle Benson to match (similar to the Porter/Wizards deal) where half the money is due at the start of the season, player-options to make him unrestricted in a couple years in a healthier cap environment, etc. What does the team that makes the offer get for their trouble, assuming NOP is able to pony up? I dunno, his agent gives them preferential treatment for a while...

Don't do the Pelicans any favors and concede to some Jaylen Brown discounts, is all I'm saying, BI.
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